[libreoffice-projects] Litmus in pt-BR
Hi I have a simple account in Litmus, I would like to participate into QA. How can I translate and upload the already existing test cases? Thanks -- Olivier Hallot Founder, Steering Commitee Member - The Document Foundation Voicing the enterprise needs LibreOffice translation leader for Brazilian Portuguese +55-21-8822-8812 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Litmus test cases
Hi I have finished to translate the basic functional test cases into pt-BR. I have also some questions regarding the nomenclature we use. Can someone explain 18 regression test and 19 features test? Thanks -- Olivier Hallot Founder, Steering Commitee Member - The Document Foundation Voicing the enterprise needs LibreOffice translation leader for Brazilian Portuguese +55-21-8822-8812 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] What's in a name? former Native-Language projects and structure
Hi LibreOffice Brasil, period. Olivier Em 05/11/2012 09:56, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com escreveu: Il 05/11/2012 12:08, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto: Because of that, the name is somewhat a non-trivial decision, and it also calls for a more formalized structure of these teams. Following LibreUmbria nice composition between libre and the geographical name, the Italian community has just decided - well, there is a benevolent dictator here, and only a few people would like to have a real disscussion with him ;-) - that LibreItalia is a very good name for the native language community. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to projects+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Askbot for LibreOffice in your language
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Community (cross-posting on purpose) We are in position to deploy AskBot for LibreOffice (AB4LO) in many languages. Those individuals interested to moderate the Askbot for LibreOffice in his own language are invited to step forward. (We will not deploy an AB4LO instance without at least one moderator.) My experience as moderator for AB4LO in pt-BR is less than 5 minutes /day, and the rate of new questions is about 2 new question/days and 2 new answers/day. Your mileage may vary, depending on how active is your national/language community. As example, you can check the pt-BR site at http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br/questions/ Note: I had to complete the translation of the AB4LO web interface myself. I had to get a login in transifex and finish the job. Other languages are in incomplete state too. The list of available languages is at this link: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/askbot/ You may coordinate with your translator to get it completed. Why AskBot ? * There were several demands to deploy means of community intercommunication other than mailing list. * To get help thru mailing list, the process is to subscribe/confirm subscription/write mail to ask/wait response/get flood of unwanted other messages/unsubscribe/confirm unsubscription. This is too much 1990'ish. * AB4LO allows you to quickly ask for help, and get responses from your community. Unlike forums, AB4LO is aimed to establish a knowledge base on LibreOffice in your language and provides tools to search for a given subject quickly. * AB4LO is not suited to debates and discussions. Prefer the mailing lists for that purpose. * Askbot also allows you to login thru your OpenId credentials, such as Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc... Chances are that your users will use it frequently. * You also don't get e-mails unless you ask for in your profile. *My experience with AB4LO in pt-BR* As I said, I get 5 minute work as moderator. Most of the job is to edit the question and put in a format of a question seeking answers. I also narrow the tags for a better search. Sometimes people put Basic code in the details and I care to have it well rendered with the internal AB4LO editor tool. I had to close some questions on subjects unrelated to LibreOffice. Almost no spam so far. Some answers had to be demoted to comment and some comments had to be promoted to answer. The kind of questions asked has a good indication on the difficulties users have with LO and tells a lot about the user and the community. As moderator, you are not obliged to answers users questions. We strongly advertize Askbot for LibreOffice in many of our local communications. So, what are you waiting for? Get AB4LO now!!! Kind regards - -- Olivier Hallot Founder, Board of Directors Member - The Document Foundation The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 - Berlin, Germany Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint LibreOffice translation leader for Brazilian Portuguese +55-21-8822-8812 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSTSpTAAoJEJp3R7nH3vLxbMEIAIzBqvJeyUTX0mY/X6TVycj/ jsIrSXI3HRKkQtuUWo51WGdus1pb1Cn+8DBO0rrsTHe7DQcTfRyRvMHejpH1zplo DDXNU719OPFVKHbHZCY6TIOEcTStNVgF8KHF3xaZQvP9DI3AHxBNYLNOc4xcllux PdIz/5cOx+u/cEf6mdM6PjoNqCpH+3ntbld7iqjQsFqOsGQ14uSs3pLm4xhuBdqu EvMJwS9eMziKG77W1s7gCGEU2jacWBtrb+GYv0wDdk1c8SF82JU6rQhEBrJCAR4c 4K6n0Ba2svQvlzJJ+FwH1tohd2j2g/MD7NY1Rvo61ueSEiObLgWQBvZ12/RM2cA= =esN0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Big Thank You page
Em 24-06-2014 10:46, Sophie escreveu: Hi all, We would like to draw a 'big thank you' page with the names of the people who are contributing in the native language projects but don't show up in any of our listing. Could you help us to put this list in place and help to maintain it? I've open the page here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Contributors I've added a FR example (the most simple for me ;-) so don't hesitate to add your NLP names or send me the info to be added, I'll take care of it. When it will be filled, we would like to attach it to the next PR to send a strong message to the media and put the projector on our NLP contributors :) Thanks a lot in advance for your help! Let me know if you have any question or remark. Cheers Sophie Hi Sophie Do you think the names (or page) should have a time stamp (e.g. 2014)? People come and go quite often... How about a photo? Regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Big Thank You page
Hi Sophie Em 24-06-2014 10:59, Sophie escreveu: Do you think the names (or page) should have a time stamp (e.g. 2014)? People come and go quite often... Yes, that's a good idea. And may be we could set a 'cleaning period' once a year, where each project remove and add the names ? I thought on Big Thank You 2014, Big Thank You 2015 That way we keep an history of the community participation. But YMMV. Cheers -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Multilingual blog planet: bring up your feeds!
Hello Charles The pt-BR blog is there: http://blog.pt-br.libreoffice.org and the rss is http://blog.pt-br.libreoffice.org/feed/ Kind regards Olivier Em 24-06-2014 11:02, Charles-H. Schulz escreveu: Hello, We have made some good progress on the multilingual blog planet, you can see a demo and a summary here: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/400 What we need from you now is to collect your blogs/ and their rss feeds so that we can build the multilingual planet. Thanks! Charles. -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Workflow between dev, UX and l10n teams
Hi Robinson On 26/01/2015 10:06, Robinson Tryon wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:48 AM, Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org wrote: On 19/01/2015 08:03, Sophie wrote: To conclude, what l10n team would like to see is: - a review process of the strings before they are committed and make sure they respect the en_US standards (capitals, grammar, punctuation, typography). Maybe adding the Gnome HIG book to our pages [like 2] if not already. That will require a revisor with en_US skills. About how much work (read: time) would this review process entail? Thanks, --R If you need to review *all* help UI, I think it maps to an equivalent of a 500 or more page handbook. -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Workflow between dev, UX and l10n teams
Hi Sophie, OK for me to work on master translation. On 19/01/2015 08:03, Sophie wrote: To conclude, what l10n team would like to see is: - a review process of the strings before they are committed and make sure they respect the en_US standards (capitals, grammar, punctuation, typography). Maybe adding the Gnome HIG book to our pages [like 2] if not already. That will require a revisor with en_US skills. - if there is a way to script changes, script them otherwise wait until there is a script available to commit them - any time there are heavy changes that pop up in someone's mind (like changing ... for …) discuss it with the l10n team before committing those changes. Right. The issue is raised (IMHO) because a great deal of developers are not english native speakers, as well as their focus is no C++ language rather than English. The thing is: if we can catch the modification upfront, it will make it easy for all of us. If I may also suggest, I'll ask all developers and within ESC recurrent revision, to check/review/flag for any major issues with respect to l10n. This can be implemented as One: create a meta-bug about l10n en_US string revision. Two: then on each commit that involves some form of l10n activity, the developer should open a new bug with his commit number/reference and link to the l10n meta-bug. The subject line should be L10n revision requested. Three: the same developer, if implementing or modifying a feature, should also open a similar bug with subject [LOCALHELP] feature XYZ changed/created; help page missing and link to bug 80430. Note that we don't ask to the developers to fix english mistakes nor write help pages, tasks that we can offload from them provided we get noticed. Fixing English mistakes/linguistics and writting help pages is a task the community can do continuously. Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Splash, startcenter About dialog updates for 5.0
On 30/07/2015 17:20, Cor Nouws wrote: Jan Holesovsky wrote on 26-06-15 15:18: It was brought to my attention that some people did not notice in the ESC and Design meeting minutes that the graphics for the splash, startcenter, and the about dialog will update for 5.0, so let me write some details. ... Each time 5.0.0 RC4 starts it's with joy that I look at the splash screen. Thanks to all making this happen :) Cor I'll add a matching greenish-stylized FFox persona default to my 5.0. install. -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation hangout in 10 minutes
Hello Our docmentation hangout will be at the following address https://hangouts.google.com/call/bnns4rxr4bfulo7tv2vjnblp7ye and the pad for the minutes is in http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Program Committee for LibOCon
Hi Sophie Em 02/02/2016 08:49, Sophie escreveu: > Hi all, > > As each year, it's time to form the Program Committee. We need at least > 3 or 4 persons available to review the talks proposed by the community, > sort and organize them and then manage the conference program. > > *Important note*: you need to be available during July and August as > these are the months during which we set the program. > > Thanks in advance to those volunteering > Cheers > Sophie > I can help too. Regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] [IMPORTANT] Documentation team CONFERENCE CALL Wednesday May 25th
Hello Our Documentation Team Conference Call is scheduled for Wednesday May 25 at 19:00 CET, 17:00 UTC The agenda for the call is the following: + Status of help on-line + Status of te tasks defined in May 18th call: Books + Documentation team needs, issues and concerns + New forms of documentation + TDF's LibreOffice tutorials? + Documentation & Translation + New tasks I will send in this list the hangout URL 10 minutes before the call, and in the #libreoffice-doc and #libreoffice-NLP channels in Freenode. Looking forward to hearing you! -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] [IMPORTANT] Documentation team CONFERENCE CALL Wednesday May 18th
Hello Our Documentation Team Conference Call is scheduled for Wednesday May 18 at 19:00 CET, 18:00 UTC The agenda for the call is the following: + Status of help on-line + Status of te tasks defined in May 4th call: Books + Documentation team needs, issues and concerns + New forms of documentation + TDF's LibreOffice tutorials? + Documentation & Translation + New tasks I will send in this list the hangout URL 10 minutes before the call, and in the #libreoffice-doc and #libreoffice-NLP channels in Freenode. Looking forward to hearing you! -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation hangout in 10 minutes
Hello Our docmentation hangout will be at the following address https://hangouts.google.com/call/3awolohaqvb2hed6q3m6z2vi4ue and the pad for the minutes is in http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Minutes of the Documentation meeting of May 18th
May 18th Documentation Team call Presents: Olivier, Sophie, Leo, Roger Documentation Update: * Help content modernization * Objective: turn the helpcontent into a richer experience for the user, either on-line or offline + Now possible to edit XHP files directly in vm173.documentfoundation.org * Help content update * Books in ODF Authors * Chapter 5 - Calc: Delivered for feedback (Olivier) * Chapter 6 - Impress: Still reviewing (Roger) * Chapter 7 - Draw: Started, some issues with the latest features, handles of shapes.(Leo) * Team feedback Leo: How to use previous translations into new, not start from scratch w/ OmegaT AI: Sopie will contact Milos for assistance * How to improve participation * Admnistrative: + Next meeting: 25th May at 19:00 CET * What can we do for next meeting (Action items) Olivier: Update Chap on Base Leo: Deliver Draw chapter Roger: Impress Chapter -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Hangout of the documentation team in 10 minutes
Hi Folks Here is the link for the hangout: https://hangouts.google.com/call/evvukee5snhzzgxcboppv7jydie And here is the link for the minutes pad. http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation See you soon -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: Documentation Team Meeting next Wednesday, July 27: What is the best time for you?
Hello The doodle poll shows 20:00 UTC as the best choice. That means 22:00 CET for inland Europeans. I will let you know 15 minutes before time the Google hangout link, on this lists and on the #libreoffice-doc channel on freenode.net We will use a TDF pad at http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation See you tomorrow! Olivier Em 21/07/2016 12:18, Olivier Hallot escreveu: > Hello documentation community > > 1) I apologize for not being present to trigger the last scheduled > meeting so lets set our next Documentation Meeting on wednesday July 27, > but I need to know from you the best time, as some interested parties > are not able to attend at 19:00. > > So please let me know your preference in this Doodle poll: > > http://doodle.com/poll/a5fnyrsbquxz2bep > > > 2) Next wednesday 27, I'd like to address many of the issues we have in > the documentation process, and here are some of them that came from > TDF-internal brainstorming: > > + How to turn the documentation job fun and thrilling? > + get more authors? > + Author's peer/community recognition > + Narrow gap between book release date and software release date > + Lowering author's entry barriers > > + How can we improve our documents visibility? > + Are our books a true LibreOffice companion product? > + improve downloads of our books? > + connect LO users to our docs and books? > + get more book translators, > + L10N contributions to documentation > > + Documentation meetings in Brno. > > Please don't miss these important discussions > > See you there! > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: Documentation Team Meeting next Wednesday, July 27: What is the best time for you?
Hi, Just a reminder to mark your best time for the next wednesday Documentation Team meeting. Double check your time zone in the page! Regards Olivier Em 21/07/2016 12:18, Olivier Hallot escreveu: > Hello documentation community > > 1) I apologize for not being present to trigger the last scheduled > meeting so lets set our next Documentation Meeting on wednesday July 27, > but I need to know from you the best time, as some interested parties > are not able to attend at 19:00. > > So please let me know your preference in this Doodle poll: > > http://doodle.com/poll/a5fnyrsbquxz2bep > > > 2) Next wednesday 27, I'd like to address many of the issues we have in > the documentation process, and here are some of them that came from > TDF-internal brainstorming: > > + How to turn the documentation job fun and thrilling? > + get more authors? > + Author's peer/community recognition > + Narrow gap between book release date and software release date > + Lowering author's entry barriers > > + How can we improve our documents visibility? > + Are our books a true LibreOffice companion product? > + improve downloads of our books? > + connect LO users to our docs and books? > + get more book translators, > + L10N contributions to documentation > > + Documentation meetings in Brno. > > Please don't miss these important discussions > > See you there! > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting next Wednesday, July 27: What is the best time for you?
Hello documentation community 1) I apologize for not being present to trigger the last scheduled meeting so lets set our next Documentation Meeting on wednesday July 27, but I need to know from you the best time, as some interested parties are not able to attend at 19:00. So please let me know your preference in this Doodle poll: http://doodle.com/poll/a5fnyrsbquxz2bep 2) Next wednesday 27, I'd like to address many of the issues we have in the documentation process, and here are some of them that came from TDF-internal brainstorming: + How to turn the documentation job fun and thrilling? + get more authors? + Author's peer/community recognition + Narrow gap between book release date and software release date + Lowering author's entry barriers + How can we improve our documents visibility? + Are our books a true LibreOffice companion product? + improve downloads of our books? + connect LO users to our docs and books? + get more book translators, + L10N contributions to documentation + Documentation meetings in Brno. Please don't miss these important discussions See you there! -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] [REMINDER] Documentation team meeting on May 10th at 17:00 CET
Hello Authors We will resume our meetings for documentation on the next May 10th to discuss our issues and concerns on all forms of documentation we carry. Please have a look at our blog post: https://goo.gl/26zZgO We will use Google hangout and I'll publish the link 10 minutes before in the documentation pad. https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation You may want to add issues to discuss in the pad beforehand. As fall-back plan, we will use the #libreoffice-doc chanel in freenode.net https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#libreoffice-doc Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] [ANNOUNCE] Documentation team meeting on May 10th at 17:00 CET
Hello Authors We will resume our meetings for documentation on the next May 10th to discuss our issues and concerns on all forms of documentation we carry. Please have a look at our blog post: https://goo.gl/26zZgO Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Minutes of the Documentation team 11/27/2017
Wednesday November 27th 2017, 18:00 CET Presents: Olivier, Jorge Completed items * Review and proofread + review and uploaded chapter 11 and 12 to Feedback folder, waiting for last-minute additions Pending: AI: Update Appendix A and B to draft folder (Paul) * Check & balance of the task assigned + continue to review and place files on the right folders (Draft, and Feedback) * continuation of the topics evaluation for GS 6.0 + Dave is monitoring the 6.0 release notes The Calc book (Jorge) + Start investigating the workload for udating Calc book (Jorge) AI: + List wiki pages for calc from release 4.1 to 6.0 (olivier) NEXT MEETING: Monday December 4th 2017, at 18:00 Berlin Time -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-02:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Meeting Minutes of May 9th, 2018
Wednesday May 9th 2018, 19:00 CET Presents: Olivier, Drew Jensen, Dave Barton Agenda * Completed items + Get book cover with K-J. (done) + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Covers_60#Final_version + Drew: Chapter 13, GS6013 - Getting started with macros * Ongoing + HSQLDB- Firebird Migration (Drew) + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/FirebirdMigration + Evaluation of online editors for Help (olivier) + Documentation bug triaging * Pending Olivier: AI: Sprint Week + Start May 21 to 27 (Monday to Sunday). + we want people to review, not edit and change the contents + put a folder with the chapter available to public + send file reviewd to documentat...@libreoffice.org + once all files received, merge corrections and put in "published" folder + Full availability in jitsi meeting for ad-hoc discussion + Chat on #documentation channel at freenode Dave: Will collect the gaps for revision to add as plan for the revision sprint. + Working on the spreadsheet with gaps AI: + Chap 10 feedback missing. + Add text on Digital signatures (Drew) NEXT MEETING: Wednesday May 16th 2018, at 19:00 Berlin Time -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] ANNOUNCING: Sprint Week for Getting Started 6.0, starting Next Monday
Hello Documentation Team We are announcing a Revision Sprint Week, starting next Monday May 21st and ending on Sunday May 27th to review the contents of all chapters of the 6.0 Guide. The task consist of downloading a chapter and review it. Then send it back to documentation at libreoffice dot org when revision is finished. Volunteers are invited to visit our Wiki page at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/SprintReview and have a deep reading on the contents. Please use our communication channels described there to access us for interaction. Happy Revision Sprint Week! -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Meeting Minutes 2/21/2018
Wednesday February 21th 2018, 19:00 CET Presents: Olivier Hallot, Dave Barton, Jorge Rodriguez Agenda * Status of Getting Started 6.0 revision GS6000 - Preface: Done + NOte for self:Update chapter prefaces while assembling the book (olivier) GS6001 - Introducing LO + Review for publication (Dave) GS6002 - setting up LO + Review by Jorge GS003 + Style and Templates + review (Olivier) GS6004 - Write to Cathy on status of the file Check the mailing list GS6005 - Calc Verified processes from 6.0 version (Jorge) Need final English review and make it ready published (Olivier) GS6006 - Impress + Upload last revision (Dave) + Review it (Olivier) GS6007 - Draw + To be uploaded by Dave + will be ready for publication (final) (Dave) GS6008 - Base + NO changes from from laste publication + Upload final revision (Dave) GS6009 - Math + Will be revised (Olivier) GS6010 - Print, Expot, E-mail + Will be revised by Olivier GS6011 - Graphics, Gallery and Font + Review for publication (Dave) GS6012 - Html + Review by Olivier GS6013 - Macros + No significat changes, + Update and review for publication (Olivier) GS6014 - Customizing - LibreOffice + Review chapter (olivier) + Get ready for proofreading and Publication (olivier) GS6015 + Keyboard Shortcut + Review contents (Jorge) GS6016 + ODF things + No changes, take from 5.2 (Dave) Meeting Adjourned for next week NEXT MEETING: Wednesday February 28st 2018, at 19:00 Berlin Time -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation team meeting August 1st, 2018
Wednesday August 1st 2018, at 19:00 Berlin Time Presents: Olivier Hallot, Drew Jensen, Dave Barton, Dan Lewis (w/ issues with jitsi) Agenda: * Completed items (Available in the Published folder of ODFAuthors) GS6000 - Preface - completed Dave Barton GS6002 - Completed (Dave) GS6004 - Writer - Completed - Olivier GS6005 - Calc - Completed - Dave Barton GS6013 - Macros - completed - Drew GS6016 - Open Standards - Completed - Olivier GS6007 - Draw - completed - Johnathan Cohen GS6008 - Base - completed - Olivier GS6011 - Gallery, etc.. - completed - Dave Barton GS6014 - Customization - completed - Olivier Pending GS6006 - Impress - Drew All remaining: GS6001 - Dave GS6003 GS6009 GS6010 GS6012 - Dave GS6015 - olivier * Book compilation (olivier) Discussion: + Book "Leaders" + have a leader for each book + Please name yourself leader of your book. NEXT MEETING: Wednesday August 8st 2018, at 19:00 Berlin Time -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Meeting minutes of the 8/7/2018 documentation team
Wednesday August 8th 2018, at 19:00 Berlin Time Presents: Olivier Hallot, Dave Barton, Dan Lewis Agenda: * Completed items (Available in the Published folder of ODFAuthors) GS6000 - Preface - completed Dave Barton GS6002 - Completed (Dave) GS6004 - Writer - Completed - Olivier GS6005 - Calc - Completed - Dave Barton GS6013 - Macros - completed - Drew GS6016 - Open Standards - Completed - Olivier GS6007 - Draw - completed - Johnathan Cohen GS6008 - Base - completed - Olivier GS6011 - Gallery, etc.. - completed - Dave Barton GS6014 - Customization - completed - Olivier NOTE: All chapter above are in master Document and uploaded to ODFAuthors. Pending GS6006 - Impress - Drew All remaining: GS6001 - Dave Expected this week GS6003 - Next Dave GS6009 - Next Olivier GS6010 GS6012 - Dave, revision by Dan Lewis. GS6015 - olivier (Still working on) * Book compilation (olivier) + Assembling the book thru a Master Document + Changes on images anchoring + Redo most dialog screenshots for Chapters + to improve image quality + To resize screenshots in many cases, for better page layout + Make screenshots of dialogs more uniform + Added instructions on how to assemble the Guide with a Master document. Discussion: + Let's finish the Guide and publish it. + Corrections will come if necessary, Master document is at hand. NEXT MEETING: Wednesday August 15th 2018, at 19:00 Berlin Time -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation team Meeting Minutes 7/18/2018
Wednesday July 18th 2018, 19:00 CET Presents: Olivier Hallot, Drew Jensen (connection issues), Dave Barton Agenda: * Completed items (Available in the Published folder of ODFAuthors) GS6000 - Preface - completed Dave Barton GS6004 - Writer - Completed - Olivier GS6013 - Macros - completed - Drew GS6016 - Open Standards - Completed - Olivier GS6007 - Draw - completed - Johnathan Cohen GS6008 - Base - completed - Olivier GS6011 - Gallery, etc.. - completed - Dave Barton GS6014 - Olivier + Added context menus + update all menu/toolbar customization dialog +adjust text to new dialogs + Removed the piece about adding a fax icon in a toolbar + who use fax in 2018? + lengthy description Pending GS6002 - Almost there, need last reading (Dave Barton) GS6006 - Impress - Drew All remaining: GS6001 GS6003 GS6005 GS6008 GS6009 GS6010 GS6012 - Johnathan GS6015 - * Book compilation (olivier) + Started a master document + Each completed chapter has its "copyright" to "Contents (TOC)" wrapped in a section + use a condition to hide the section: "book eq 1" + Variable "book" is defined in master document, when book=1, chapter's copyright+TOC is hidden + Hit issue in displaying images from chapters on master + Cause: its a bug. https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86322 + To overcome, change image anchoring inside frame to paragraph in chapters. + no big deal, except extensive task + changed, preface, ch2, ch4, and on going. Discussion: (Dave, olivier) * Time release of books + "perfect is enemy of the good" (Dave) + "better something than nothing" (olivier) + Set a date for publication + deliver what is available + update timely with corrections/erratas + Book assembly easier with master document + Use of NextCloud + LOOL will improve file access and update + still need control on who is working on each file * Book authoring process + Revision of the revision of the revision does not work + very unproductive and not fun at all + Current LO track changes very hard to read + sometimes too fragmented or granular + better have highly skilled authors we trust to cut revision cycle + Leave revision to time based erratas + Monthly or bi-monthly, or 1 errata per book release. + not connected to minor releases of the software (no feature changes) + Published 6.n is draft 6.n+1 + bring discussion to Doc ML. NEXT MEETING: Wednesday July 25th 2018, at 19:00 Berlin Time -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation team meeting minutes 4/25/2018
Wednesday April 25th 2018, 19:00 CET Presents: Olivier, Dave Barton, Drew Jensen Agenda Completed items + page for HSQLDB->Firebird migration (olivier) + contents for page above (Robert, Drew) Olivier: + Announce the "sprint" for the revision and finishing of the GS 6 + Daily meeting on the status + Week of May 14 to May 18 (5 days) + Full availability in jitsi meeting for ad-hoc discussion + Chat on #documentation channel at freenode AI: Get access for Drew Jensen in TDF Nextcloud + LOOL (olivier) Dave: Will collect the gaps for revision to add as plan for the revision sprint. Drew: Review of chapter GS6008 (Base) NEXT MEETING: Wednesday May 2nd 2018, at 19:00 Berlin Time -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Doc team Meeting Minutes Oct 17, 2018
Wednesday October 17th 2018, at 19:00 Berlin Time Presents: Olivier, Drew Jensen, Dave Barton, Cathy Crumbley Fall back chat: https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#libreoffice-doc TDF Jitsi room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Agenda: + Templates for next books AI: Update template for Calc Guide (Drew) Discussion: + GS 6.0 Updates / erratas + Guide Coordinator: Dave Barton + Set december 1st for deadline on corrected version of GS 6.0 + Add changes from M. Kara (Customize dialog) + Decision: Next team work, update Calc guide + Most demanded book + Guide coordinator: Drew Jensen + team: Drew, Dave, Cathy, Olivier, + volunteers + Use Nextcloud + Set to use NC with the community + document the new way to work AI: Update wiki page on using NextCloud for authoring (olivier) + Advantage: Preserve current ODFAuthor workflow (Drew) + Main issue: How to prevent overwriting files in NC (Drew, Dave) + Communicate to the mailing list as before + Help contents + How do we contribute to Help Contents (Cathy)? + send corrections to olivier, he will make it happen. + Why Help does not use HTML (Dave)? + can use, but + there are some nice features in XHP + issue with translation workload + Any change has to be very smooth + Proposing some extensions to XHP (Help XML) to make it easier + there is a task to create a specific XHP editor for newcomers. NEXT MEETING: Wednesday October 24th 2018, at 19:00 Berlin Time -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Doc team Meeting Minutes of Oct 24th 2018
Wednesday October 24th 2018, at 19:00 Berlin Time Presents: Cathy Crumbley, Drew Jensen, Dave Barton, Olivier Hallot Fall back chat: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc TDF Jitsi room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed Action Items: + Update wiki page on using NextCloud for authoring (olivier) Dropped in favor of Dave's Proposal Pending: + Update template for Calc Guide (Drew) Agenda: + Proposal for the future LibreOffice documentation development workflow (Dave) + Help updating release notes for 6.2 (asked on the Doc IRC channel) + Aricles for Linux-magazine on Draw and Base (mentioned on Marketing mailinglist) + Help content extensions Discussion: + How to make easy for newcomers (Cathy) + Define set of easy-tasks for newcomers (cathy) + Punch list that needs to be updated (Drew) + If done in LOOL then it is easier (Drew) + Sample https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/Calc/6.x + Take this as stating point + Newcomers take the draft and review (Dave) + Review the writing or reviewing the contents? (olivier) + Rev1: Review technical contents + Rev2: Spelling & Linguistics (Copyeditor) (Drew, Cathy) + Proposal for the future LibreOffice documentation development workflow + See in NextCloud's ODFAuthor: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/xHxeiwL295DMZc7 Meeting ended 20:20 Berlin Time, adjourned. NEXT MEETING: Wednesday October 31st 2018, at 19:00 Berlin Time -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Minutes fo the Doc team meeting of 2018-12-12
Wednesday December12th2018, at 19:30 Berlin Time Presents:Cathy, Drew, Dave, Olivier Fall back chat: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc TDF Jitsi room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed Action Items: Pending: AI: Emails developers to get more clarifications (Drew) + Appendix on CPU issues for Calc (threading, OpenCL) + What happen with the wiki page "Other Resources"? See the discussion: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/msg12533.html * Guides: + Create the conversion script (Drew) AI: Update Contributors Guides with changes from Dave? (Drew) * Yes. + TEMPLATES + Please review and aprove/comments Agenda+ Discussion: * Basic text on signing documents with OpenPGP (ohallot) + to add to Guides. + Placed in "Contributor Resources" as "gpg.odt". + Docuemtnation and Acccessibitlity (A11y) + Waht are the resources we have on A11y + ask doc list (Drew) Next meeting Wednesday December 19th 2018, at 19:30 Berlin Time -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Minutes of the December 19th, 2018 Doc team meeting
Wednesday December19th2018, at 19:30 Berlin Time Presents:Dave, Drew, Olivier + Anonymous Fall back chat: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc TDF Jitsi room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed Action Items: + TEMPLATES + Reviewed. * Basic text on signing documents with OpenPGP (ohallot) + reviewed (Drew) + Add to chap 10 of GS 6.x (olivier) Pending: AI: Emails developers to get more clarifications (Drew) + Appendix on CPU issues for Calc (threading, OpenCL) + What happen with the wiki page "Other Resources"? See the discussion: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/msg12533.html * Guides: + Create the conversion script (Drew) + Documentation and Acccessibitlity (A11y) + Waht are the resources we have on A11y + ask doc list (Drew) Agenda+ Discussion: Chap 2 (Dave) + expect to have it ready for review in Jan/2019 Contributor Guide + Publish book as 1 volume + Keep chapters separated for edition (no changes in procedure) Notebook Bar documentation + Did some flyers for NB (Drew) + Will use for Guides too (Drew) Seasons Greetings ! Seasons Greetings ! Seasons Greetings ! Seasons Greetings ! Please Note: Next meeting Wednesday January 9th 2019, at 19:30 Berlin Time -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes 2018-12-5
Wednesday December5th2018, at 19:30 Berlin Time Presents:Drew Jensen, Dave Barton, Olivier, Cathy Crumbley + Anonymous (Minutes only). Fall back chat: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc TDF Jitsi room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed Action Items: * Guides: + Style Map (Old styles -> new styles) is completed (Dave) Pending: AI: Emails developers to get more clarifications (Drew) + Appendix on CPU issues for Calc (threading, OpenCL) + What happen with the wiki page "Other Resources"? See the discussion: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/msg12533.html * Guides: + Create the conversion script (Drew) AI: Update Contributors Guides with changes from Dave? (Drew) + Let's survey a broader audience on what must go to inside the Guides (all) + Use TDF survey (olivier) AI: long term, skip + define the right set of questions for the contents (olivier) https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/8JKKSzxji2WwXH4 Agenda+ Discussion: + Experience in online editing with large amount of track changes is hard. + Opened a bug (Drew) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121917 Calc Guide: Charpter 1 + Cathy's changes very uniformly consistent (Drew) + Approved all Cathy's changes (Drew) + More changes to come in chapter, not finished! (Cathy) + Saving chapter in NextCloud creates versions, use it for versioning (Drew) Calc Guide: Charpter 2 + Creating a zip file with Chapt2 images, will upload (Dave). + Chapter will also embed images (Drew). + Zipped images have full resolution, raw capture (Dave). + The zipped images will be named with their caption in chapter(Dave). General: + OLE objects export is bad for some formats (EPUB, HTML) (olivier) + Use Draw files for drawing over screenshots, but export drawing as PNG/JPG to embed in Chapter (all) + keep the drawing in the image zipped file (all). Nextcloud Comments + Miss a way to comment files and folders in NC (Dave) + Saw Comment in NC marketplace (Olivier) AI: + will look if it can be installed in TDF NC (Olivier) (dj) well, no I have not sent that email to the dev list about what makes sense regarding threading as a subject. (dj) the script, I really didn't work on that till just this morning, and did get couple hours into it, at the moment I can make a swap for a style type but it's not cycling through the entire list. Stongly expect to have this tonight (which means sharing it in the moring). (dj) the chapter (appendix on functions listing) is done enough to share, but I still haven't, this is my test file for the script and should post up at the same time. Next meeting WednesdayDecember12th2018, at 19:30 Berlin Time -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Doc team meeting minutes 2018 -11-28
Wednesday November 28th2018, at 19:30 Berlin Time Presents:Dave Barton, Drew Jensen, Olivier, Cathy Crumbley, Sophia Schröder + unknown (connected to minutes only) Fall back chat: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc TDF Jitsi room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed Action Items: + Proposal for the future LibreOffice documentation development workflow (Dave) Dave: My proposal for the workflow would be: - Run conversion script on the last edition of each chapter to be worked on. - Apply the new template to the converted chapter. - Updated the chapter's technical content. - Final stage chapter cleanup & review. Dave: * Complete the old -> new styles conversion list for Drew's script (Dave) * Complete the 2nd. draft of the 6.x template (Dave) * The first item is somewhat interdependent on the second one, but both are reasonably close to completion * Create the conversion script (Drew) + Enter images in document (Cathy) AI: Clarify the image anchoring (olivier) +File with comments on assembling a master document for Guides https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/g3o4wLRJcPcB34P +Quote on images: "Bug https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86322prevent images with character anchors to display in Master Document. As results, the frame with caption only displays the caption with no image. Nevertheless the frame keeps the size of the original image, even if invisible. To circumvent: For each image inside the chapter, anchor the image to PARAGRAPH inside the frame. Select the image in the frame, click mouse button 2, select Anchor, choose To Paragraph. An extra paragraph may (or not) pop at the top of the caption inside the frame. Just delete it." Pending: AI: Emails developers to get more clarifications (Drew) + Appendix on CPU issues for Calc (threading, OpenCL) + What happen with the wiki page "Other Resources"? See the discussion: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/msg12533.html Agenda+ Discussion: * Help pages + [I]: Added some extension to the XML to make Help edition easier (olivier) * Python Help pages + Added entry pages for Python scripts documentation (olivier) + Need skilled volunteers to fill contents * Guides: + Create the conversion script (Drew) * AI: Update Contributors Guides with changes from Dave? (Drew) * Yes. * Long editing session turns LO slow and unusable (Cathy) + Some crashes. + Confirmed by 3rd party on the large amount of changes (blog post - Cathy) + get feedback sooner to accept/reject changes, shrink the file (drew) + May use online version to get it faster/easier for review (drew, olivier) * Contents of the Guides (Cathy) + Shall we review the contents of each chapter + some contents too basic + Let's survey a broader audience on what must go to inside the Guides (all) + Use TDF survey (olivier) AI + define the right set of questions for the contents (olivier) https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/8JKKSzxji2WwXH4 Next meeting WednesdayDecember5th2018, at 19:30 Berlin Time -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Meeting minutes of the Jan 9th 2018 Doc team.
Wednesday January9th2018, at 19:30 Berlin Time Presents:Dave, Drew, SophiaS, Olivier, Fall back chat: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc TDF Jitsi room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed Action Items: Pending: AI: Emails developers to get more clarifications (Drew) + Appendix on CPU issues for Calc (threading, OpenCL) + What happen with the wiki page "Other Resources"? See the discussion: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/msg12533.html * Guides: + Create the conversion script (Drew) + Documentation and Acccessibitlity (A11y) + Waht are the resources we have on A11y + ask doc list (Drew) Agenda+ Discussion: + True vaccation for the team (i.e. farniente !!!) + New help editor (Drew) + Try the direct gerrit edit (Drew) https://newdesign.libreoffice.org/help_editor/index.html + Wiki has pages for editing Help (olivier) + please have a look. + Issues in editing with LO 6.2 (Dave) + reported the bug in 6.2, in MAB, critical.(Dave) + Issues with Index (Dave) + Back to 6.1 Next meeting Wednesday January 16th 2019, at 19:30 Berlin Time -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Getting Started Guide 6.0 released
LibreOffice's Documentation Team releases the Getting Started Guide 6.0, the introductory text for all LibreOffice applications and more. Covering spreadsheets, presentations, texts, drawings, databases and the equations editor, as well as other important concepts in LibreOffice, the guide updates the previous book for LibreOffice 5.2 with the features implemented up to the 6.0 release. As it's an introductory text, some advanced topics were left out, and are to be addressed in the other specialized modules guides, such as the Writer Guide 6.0. This turns the Getting Started Guide into a light reading on all of LibreOffice's most important features and concepts. "We are pleased to announce the release the new Getting Started Guide 6.0, bringing the contents closer to the latest version of the software. With this effort we also want to improve the documentation development process, and deliver the next update in much shorter time frame" said Dave Barton, member of the Documentation team. "We will begin the Getting Started 6.1 Guide project shortly" he added. "The Guides update has been a very long process and revealed issues especially with revision, which is a very time consuming task and hard to carry out. A delicate balance is necessary between contribution and revision. We would like to try a time-based release of the next guide" said Olivier Hallot, Documentation Team Coordinator. "We will announce new methods and tools to speed up the authoring and release of the Guides", he added. The Guide was assembled using the techniques of the LibreOffice master document, a container of linked individual chapters, allowing the update of the chapters to be carried out automatically for the final document. The master document was then the source for exporting the Guide in PDF, EPUB and ODT formats for download. The Getting Started Guide 6.0 is available for download in the documentation website at https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/getting-started-guide/ and the individual chapters and master document are in the TDF wiki at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#Getting_Started_with_LibreOffice . LibreOffice 6.0's Getting Started Guide is also available as a printed book from Lulu, by Friends of Open Document Inc., an Australia-based volunteer organization with members around the world, which will be using profits from the sale to benefit the LibreOffice community. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Doc Team Meeting Minutes - 3/20/2019
Wednesday March 20th 2018, at 00:00 UTC, 19:00 New York Time Presents: Michael Carey, Drew Jensen, Olivier, Cathy Crumbley Fall back chat: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc TDF Jitsi room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Telegram documentation group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ Completed Action Items: + Send mail with next meeting dates to documentation list + Wiki page with Calc contents: + Olivier: Cleanup the Editing Formatting part. Pending: Agenda + Discussion Ilmari mail on wiki + New structures of wikis, reviewers, auditing... (Michael) + wikis are chaotic and that is good (olivier) + there are some control on the new pages (olivier) + AOO files are all moved to NextCloud (Drew) + Update the guides, what about updating them? (olivier) + We must retain the PDF license (Drew) + No need to change the license, but IANAL (olivier) + Administrator Guides should be updated and include LOOL (Drew) + Guides: + Cleanup of chapters is time consuming (Cathy) + Cathy to send the chapter to Drew for inspection Next meeting Wednesday April 3rd 2019, at 00:00 UTC -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Meeting Minutes Documentation team, March 6th 2019
Wednesday March6th2018, at 00:00 UTC Presents:Olivier, Tom Thibodeaux, Fall back chat: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc TDF Jitsi room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed Action Items: Pending: + Apply templates to source files (Olivier, Drew) + Deactivation old ODFAuthor plone + Send a mail to AOO lists (Drew) + what to do with the old plone instance + add a redirect Calc Guide (Update) PLease fill the spreadsheet in the Calc folder @ NextCloud. Agenda+ Discussion: + Time of the meeting. Comments? Is that OK for the team? + perfect for me (Tom) + OK for me (olivier) + Periodicity. Weekly, Bi-weekly? + Bi-Weekly + No problem (Tom) + I have too much meetings per week (Olivier) AI: Send mail to doc list with next 6 meetings (Olivier) + Questions & Answers by Team. + Wiki page on the contents of the Calc Guide, https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/Calc/6.x AI: Tom: Cleanup of the Introduction part in wiki page. AI: Olivier: Cleanup the Editing Formatting part. Next meeting Wednesday March20th 2019, at 00:00 UTC -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Meeting Minutes of 2019-02-27 Doc Team
Wednesday February27th2018, at 00:00 UTC Presents:Tom Thibodeau, Drew Jensen, Meena Nigam, Olivier Fall back chat: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc TDF Jitsi room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed Action Items: () Pending: + Apply templates to source files (Olivier, Drew) + Deactivation old ODFAuthor plone + Send a mail to AOO lists (Drew) + what to do with the old plone instance + add a redirect Calc Guide (Update) PLease fill the spreadsheet in the Calc folder @ NextCloud. Agenda+ Discussion: + Welcome to new team members + Q on workflow techniques etc... Next meeting Wednesday March6th 2019, at 00:00 UTC -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Minutes of the Doc team meeting of Feb 13th 2019
Wednesday February 13th 2018, at 19:00 Berlin Time Presents: Drew, Cathy, Olivier Fall back chat: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc TDF Jitsi room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed Action Items: Pending: Agenda + Discussion: + Resuming the Calc Guide book + Template: finished + Apply templates to source files (Olivier) + Deactivation old ODFAuthor plone + deadline is March 31st, 2019 + Migration of files and community files + Send a mail to LibreOffice list (olivier) + Send a mail to AOO lists (Drew) + what to do with Apache OpenOffice files +move to NC (Drew) + what to do with the old plone instance + add a redirect + Backup and archive Next meeting Wednesday February 20th 2019, at 19:00 Berlin Time -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation team meeting minutes April 17th 2019
Wednesday April 17th 2019, at 19:00 (New York Time) Presents: Cathy Crumbley, Drew Jensen, Carlisle, Olivier Fall back chat: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc Telegram group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Agenda + Discussion Welcome Carlisle! Main topic: Google Season of Doc https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/GSoDOC/2019 Please visit and enhance the page! Reporting bugs in the documentation + Takes time to test and figure the doc is wrong or there is a bug in the sofware (Cathy) + Is Bugzilla suitable to Doc bugs? (Cathy) + only for Help pages and with significant contents + typos can be communicated directly to olivier, with the link to the page + questions for end users can go to Askbot, User IRC, doc list, telegram group (olivier) Next meeting Wednesday May 1st 2019, at 19:00 New York Time -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Meeting Minutes of the documentation team 5/29/2019
Wednesday May 29th 2019, at 18:00 UTC Presents: Drew Jensen, Dave Barton, Cathy Crumbley, LibreOfficiant, Olivier Hallot, Caroline Fall back chat: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc Telegram group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Agenda + Discussion + Contributors guide: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/xikgjGYgGTjr2ni + Quite old (Dave) + Need rewrite, update on terminology (Dave) + Consistency is important (all) + Use the cloud nature of the tool and update directly / add comments (Drew) + Comments are hard to use/see in NextCloud (Dave) + Move Contributor Guide to wiki (Consensus) + Chart Chapter + buggy !!! (Cathy) + so many different directions on how to do + Guide: whe should go for menus (?) + menus has everithing (Dave) + several methods to describe (Cathy) + Menus and notebook bars, worsen things (drew) + The side bar is always the same (drew) + Sidebar is partial (drew) + References to toolbars icons shold be de-emphasized + icon theme issues + hard to insert icon in text + breaks paragraph layout smoothness + depends on toobar customization + Mention toolbar with no icon specific + mention context menu + Context menu is a set of commands available to the selected object + Graphics: + Drawings in Draw are objects when embedded in Writer + Convert OLE object into image + Use PNG format. JPEG has quality trade-off. + Inserting images + frame resizing issue (dave) Warm Welcome to Caroline: "hi team - I am a professional Tech Writer in the USA with 5 years of Tech Writing experience 20 years of business experience - I do this OL volunteer stuff on the side (part-time) - a lot of the same issues happen in the corporate world as we discuss in this forum - big fan of the database tool as I loathe Access - have a happy healthy week" Next meeting Wednesday June 12th 2019, at 18:00 UTC -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] TDF has been accepted as Google Seasons of Doc mentoring organization.
Hello Team We are happy to inform that the Foundation has been accepted as organization for the Google Seasons of Docs The next deadline in the process is May 28th, were we must find interested technical writers to discuss our ideas. I have listed some of our ideas in the following wiki page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/GSoDOC/2019 and you will recognize our permanent challenges, which is no reason to prevent you from adding your own ideas. I expect that, given the very wide scope of LibreOffice application areas, we will have interested technical writers to join the program under TDF mentoring. We also have to nominate ourself for mentoring our technical writers. Please forward you name if you are interested in the job. Kind regards. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Doc team meeting minutes June 12th 2019
Wednesday June 12th 2019, at 18:00 UTC Presents:Drew, Cathy Crumbley, Olivier Fall back chat: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc Telegram group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Agenda + Discussion Proposed agenda items (drew) From the mailing list this last week: Order to the folder structure on the NextCloud server. -- archive folder for Calc 6.2 guide created. -- what else can be/ should be done? Wiki pages and how to documents for HSQLdb Base migration -- first file started -- received an email from Celia Palacios (directly) about her continuing work on a HSQLdb embedded to Firebird embedded migraiton without Migration Assistant How To. Still need to follow up with a reply on that email. Revision process (Cathy) + Is it ok to comment chapter review in mailing list? + Yes, keep the information access free, use mailing list at will Graphics in Guides (Cathy) + Need a template to make graphics homogeneous (Cathy) AI: Create a Draw template file (drew) + Good practice to store drawings in a single, editable and translatable Draw file + BUt remember to expport drawiing as image (png) when inserting in chapter (olivier) Wiki Contributor Guide already ported to wiki (Olivier) + But still need more work to update (olivier) + Need a page on creating drawings with Drew's template Next meeting Wednesday June 26th 2019, at 18:00 UTC -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Doc Team Meeting Minutes (Dec 4th 2019)
Wednesday December 4th 2019, at 18:00 UTC Presents: Steve Fanning, Dave Barton, Dan Lewis, Olivier IRC chanel: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc Telegram Group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Agenda + Discussion Announcement: * Google Seasons of Doc has ended + LO community has a new Book: LibreOffice Online 6.3 + Aaron Peters is our champion. + download the book here https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/RtHBeXoeiZr2eM8 + Book was built with Master Document + Revision 0 + Call for revision * "Math Guide" updated by Roman Kunetzov (kompilainenn) AI: Revise Math Book (DaveB) Steve Fanning would like to discuss two topics: 1. Indexing in the Calc Guide. I am concerned that for the chapters that I have updated, I neglected indexing. What should I have done, and can I still do it before we issue the latest draft! + Use concordance if necessary (Olivier) https://help.libreoffice.org/6.5/en-US/text/swriter/01/04120250.html?=WRITER=UNIX https://help.libreoffice.org/6.5/en-US/text/swriter/guide/indices_index.html?=WRITER=UNIX + Not a change in contents, please proceed AI: Steve to add indexing. 2. Calc Functions. What does the team think is the best way forward with regards to recording more detailed information about the 500+ Calc functions? A Functions Handbook? A wiki page? Any other suggestions? Having done a lot of work on Chapter 18 (Description of Functions), I have some relevant information in my head about these functions and it might be a good idea to capture this somewhere and soon. + 80 pages chapter + Covering the functions is better in a separate book (Dave) + Not eliminate chpt 18 (Steve) + wiki is good (Steve) + Wiki can get more contributors (Steve, after Regina H.) + Chpt 18 lnk to wiki pages (Dave) Proposal Generate wiki pages for for Calc Function description and use cases (aka: Handbook) + Approved by consensus. + Steve as 1st volunteer to open the pages. AI: Steve to open initial pages. 3. When the book is finished? (Steve) + Chapt 15 - Calc online -> Drop + Chapt 16 - Calc threading -> Drop + Chapt 13 - Calc as database -> Zach. + Then the book is ready for assembling. 4. Base Handbook (Dan) Next meeting : *THURSDAY* December 19th at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation team meeting minutes (Dec 19, 2019)
Wednesday December 19th 2019, at 18:00 UTC Presents: Dave BArton, Steve Fanning, Dan Lewis, Olivier IRC chanel: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc Telegram Group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed Items --- Revise Math Book (DaveB) + Finished + Updating tomorrow Steve to add indexing on his chapters + 2 chapters Steve to open initial pages. + Template for functions is approved Pending items - Wiki on Calc Functions: AI: Navigation to the top of page (Steve) Agenda + Discussion --- * Calc keyboard shortcuts. (Steve Fanning) + No need to mention OpenOffice shortcuts AI: Steve to review chapter 17, vs Tools -> Customize and the Help pages. + https://help.libreoffice.org/6.5/en-US/text/scalc/04/0102.html?=WRITER=UNIX + The current list of Chap 17 shortcut is task-oriented and should be kept as is. * LOOL Guide (Olivier) + Working on Revision 1 Next meeting : *THURSDAY* Jan 9th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Doc team meeting minutes 2020/01/09
Wednesday January 9th 2020, at 18:00 UTC Presents: Dave Barton, Steve Fanning, Dan Lewis, Olivier IRC chanel: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc Telegram Group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed Items Revise Math Book (DaveB) + Finished Calc Guide 6.2 (Yay!!!) + Published by Jean Weber + Rebuilding (separately) as master document (Olivier) * LOOL Guide (Olivier) + Revision 1 Pending items Wiki on Calc Functions: AI: Navigation to the top of page (Steve) LOOL Revision 2 + expected end of Month. Agenda + Discussion * Calc keyboard shortcuts. (Steve Fanning) + No need to mention OpenOffice shortcuts Topics for discussion (SF) (a) Current status of Calc Functions section of the wiki (see https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions). (b) Further discussion of Calc keyboard shortcuts. Next meeting : *THURSDAY* Jan 23th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Doc Team meeting Minutes April 9th, 2020
Thursday April 9th 2020, 18:00 UTC Presents: Toni Blackwelder, Steve Fanning, Alain Romedenne, Dan Lewis, Olivier, Marcia Wilbur IRC channel: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc Telegram Group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Topics and Discussion: - Miscellaneous. + A. Romedenne: Any interest for a Basic syntax booklet? + 10 pages booklet on most important aspect of LO Basic syntax (Alain) + Diagrams the same as the (new) Help pages on Basic + Write into wiki pages and also in a small printable booklet + Is booklet addressing other variants of Basic (e.g. VBA)? (S. Fanning) + No. Restricted to LO Basic (AR). + Booklet is welcome, please proceed (All) + Marcia Wilbur: + Need guidance to contribute to Doc + Knows Office suites since StarOffice + Professional tech writer AI:+ Send welcome instructions to Marcia (olivier) + Dan Lewis: A bio page for doc team members + Wiki page (+ blog post) + Base Guide is going well + Steve Fanning + What is the priority for books? + None. We can't set deadlines for volunteers (olivier) + We let volunteer contribute on what they like most + Calc is the most downloaded book (olivier) + To improve coordination, name a coordinator per Guide (olivier) + e.g. Jean H. Weber is natural Writer Guide leader, Jean? + Others welcome to step in. + Glad to contribute to Doc team with no deadlines (SF) + Toni Blackwelder + What release to use for book writing?, expect 6.4.2... + Use any release except when to verify/review a new feature + Writer is very stable as word processor.(Olivier) + 6.4.2 is just fine. + You can use Portable Apps to install another release with no harm to system (A. Romedenne) + Other solutions available too (S. Fanning) Next meeting : *THURSDAY* April 23rd 2020 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Doc Team Meeting Minutes of March 26th 2020
Thursday March 26th 2020, 18:00 UTC Presents: Toni Blackwelder, Dave Barton, Steve Fanning, Alain Romedenne, Dan Lewis, Olivier IRC chanel: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc Telegram Group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Topics and Discussion: Toni: Where are the images stored? + Images (PNG,JPG) are stored inside the chapter + Quality is preserved + Better not use OLE obejcts (e.g. Drawings) + Convert to image + Prevent exporting to alien formats, e.g. ePub + Keep source drawings in a folder or file Dave: Advise newcomers on writing techniques + no empty paragraph + use styles intensely + No direct formatting + will update Contributor Guide w/ Jean Weber (Dave) + I can help to synch with wiki (olivier) Steve Fanning: The review process + Reviewer need to go thru all examples listed in the chapters (Dave, Steve) + Issue with buggy sofwtare, the Base case (Steve) + We don't write about bugs, software is supposed to work (Olivier) + Suggestion: Check with a release that works, it will be fixed some day + ToniB: Note somewhere what is the version of the software the author and reviewer is using. + Dave: Put in the control spreadsheet AI: Message to list with advises Pulkit:"LibreOffice Tutorials" -Should I rewrite tutorials written by Bernard Poole in LibreOffice Documentation format? + Answered earlier in IRC: + No objections to add more documentation (Olivier) Dave: Place Bruce Byfield book as reference Alain: Provide LibO Basic syntax diagrams for local/online help + Mockup diagrams available in https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:LibreOfficiant/Syntax + WiP content in https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/apps/files/?dir=/LibreOffice%20Documentation/English/Basic%20Guide%20-%20WiP/Related%20materiel=290697 + .svg diagrams are favoured, but I have no .svg edition skills, however I can provide .png templates/models if need be + A syntax only Basic booklet could be produced, aside of a missing Basic guide Q: Licensing of current tool not checked yet! Q: How about integrating .png inside local/online help for the time being? + No problem if PNG. Next meeting : *THURSDAY* April 9th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Meeting Minutes - Documentation - April 23rd, 2020
Thursday April 23rd 2020, 18:00 UTC Presents: Pulkit Krishna (12:00 UTC part, IRC), Olivier, Steve Fanning, Toni Blackwelder, Randolph Gamo, Dan Lewis, Leo Moons, Emiliano Vavassori IRC chanel: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc Telegram Group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Topics and Discussion: SF: (1) Would like to discuss the proposed revision to Appendix A of the Calc Guide (Keyboard Shortcuts) - see my message to the mailing list on 13th April. + Added a 3rd column for Mac + review shortcuts from Customization UI. + Contents became dense (Olivier) + Suggest a section on Windows/Unix (same kbd) and another for Mac, all in same appendix A. + Is it going to increase size? (Leo) + just 10 pages (SF) -> Go for 2 sections (all) (2) Would like to confirm that the team is happy to drop Appendix B (Description of Functions) from the next issue of the Calc Guide. -> Delete the chapter, all information is in Help and is accurate. (3) Would like to discuss whether a usable alphabetical index would be benficial in the Calc Guide. + Index is useful (sf) + Jean Weber has concerns on quality of the selected words. + concordance file? - list of words, not very selective (oh, sf) + already tried in Calc, need rework/cleanup (sf) -> Add it if good enough, otherwise just don't add it. (all) (4) Discuss whether to produce a 6.4 Calc Guide or target 7.0. (I have analysed the Calc changes listed in the 6.3 and 6.4 release notes and can brief the meeting). Consider approach of regular small updates rather than big bang approach? Pro 7.0 + release at time of software, good for community/user + magnify release announcement impact Pro 6.4 + few addition, manageable + target end of May (sf) but depends on revision (sf) + I can help in revision of calc (Leo Moons) -> Keep 6.4 release and prepare for 7.0 PK: (1)When will Dan and Drew complete their review of the chapter 7 and 9 of the base Guide Respectively? + More work is needed to complete and review, things have changed in the contents and needs rework (Dan Lewis) + issues in mail merge, new screenshots. + Question on tables with no keys, how to have it managed in the UI (Dan) + Use SQL to achieve that. (2)Which version should we use for rewriting the base guide? + 4 or 5 items that requires the change. + Keep 6.4 and if ready, ok otherwise bump to 7.0. (3)I have an idea in my mind ever since I joined the docs team. I know that it is hard to release the documentation of a partcular version along with it. I think a better idea would be to release the documentation when the version becomes stable. It will give more tome to the volunteers. The website team can add a line near the download button for stable version that this version has got documentation. Technology enthusiast, early adopter or power user can do without documentation I think. + topic not discussed -> next meeting Misc: + Find and replace : diff between format and attribute (Toni) + confusing UI "attribute" vs "Format" (tb) + Seems 'Attribute' is for S of character formats, while 'Format' is for paragraph formats. (olivier) + Help does no Help, will play around on the issue & communicate to mailing list (tb) + worth review the UI terminology to make it more intuitive (olivier) Next meeting : *THURSDAY* May 7th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes, May 7th, 2020
Thursday May 7th 2020, 18:00 UTC Presents: Leo Moons, Dan Lewis, Steve Fanning, Professor Carlisle, Marcia Wilbur, Olivier Hallot IRC chanel: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc Telegram Group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Topics and Discussion: * The road ahead: Guides Version 7. (Olivier) + shall we design/update the set of chapter styles? + warning, tips and notes (Leo) + Colors for Headings? (olivier) + Branding for 7.0 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#LibreOffice_7.0_series AI: Submit proposal (olivier) * Can images have a frame around (Marcia) + A (border-less) frame is added automatically when a image get a caption (Olivier) + image and caption are wrapped in this frame. + We can add a border to the frame, need consensus. * Space between the caption and the image (Marcia) + Caption should be concise to avoid breaking the line, left aligned + Gap between image and caption should increase (Marcia) + This can be adjusted in caption paragraph style -'space above' (Olivier, Dan) * Screenshots rules for Guides + Keep the screen size, no enlarging.(Leo) + Use a good screen resolution to take a readable screenshot. + PDF has its own way to resize the image to 300dpi for printing + To take screenshots directly in LibreOffice: + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Screenshots + Screenshots carry OS "look and feel" but not the dialog window. * Screenshots of I/O dialogs + I/O dialogs may vary depending on OS and printer manufacturer + Use Windows for I/O screenshots: Print, Save, Open files. Next meeting : *THURSDAY* May 21st 2020 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Meeting Minutes - Doc team meeting of 5/21/2020
Thursday May 21st 2020, 18:00 UTC Presents: Steve, Drew, Dan, Carlisle, Olivier IRC chanel: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc Telegram Group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ Live TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Pending items: * Submit proposal for new Guide template (olivier) Topics and Discussion: + Call for Documentation Mentor + Need 2 more mentors for Google seasons of Doc + Solver for Calc + Help pages almost ready, waiting for wiki contents (Olivier) + What is + Espilon level in Linear Solver (1 phrase) + Branch and bound (1 phrase) + Use OpenOffice NLP wiki contents as a start in LO wiki e.g: [NLPSolver] + Thanks to Drew Jensen for his recent work in this area (SF) + Questions and Answers on Guides and Help * Calc Guide (SF) - Current status of update + Moving on to deliver - Reviewing Keyboard Shortcuts chapter + Needs revision + heavy rewriting, + depends on OS (Linux, Windows, Mac) AI: Verify Linux (Drew) - Does 6.x template currently used in the master document need update for 6.4? + Stick with the Calc current 6.2 template - Lessons learned about unexpected user interface changes in LO + Lots of changes, + Not everithing changes in release notes + e.g. MSO lock files + For notebook bars, let description of NB be in GS guides (Steve) + * Discuss recent updates to the Calc Functions area of the wiki (SF) + Revert if necessary + wiki pages often suffer vandalism + Order of creating a ePUB version for the user guides? (Dan) + Base guide AI: Update Contributor Guide for e-PUB (Tabs issue) (olivier) + On template for 7.0 (olivier) + What to change? + Name of styles (currently messy, but low impact) + Cleanup of excessive styles + Prefer to use the Standard/Default style names (Steve, Dan) + Design a new style only if absolutely necessary + Notes, Warning and Tips should change? ==> Unconclusive + "On using mailing list (...)", change to warning (Dan, SF, Drew) + Removal of unused styles + Adjust for ePUB (eliminate automatic tabs, no OLE objects) + Create a macro to manage styles + check direct formatting, check style not "oficial" + Use the extension to change char templates + Use acessibility (a11y) features in 7.0 to verify a11y + Let's document this new feature (Drew) + What about fonts? Serif or Sans serif? No change + Heading font color? Keep current green, choose other? + Margins, page size? + No headers thus reduce uper margin (Steve). AI: present a proposal for new template 7.0 and discuss (olivier) Next meeting : *THURSDAY* June 4th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Meeting Minutes 15 sept 2020 - Wiki Pages for Calc Functions
Meeting Minutes 15 sept 2020 - Wiki Pages for Calc Functions (GSOD 2020)
Presents: Olivier, Steve Fanning, Ronnie Gandhi
Completed action items
+ Second set of functions
Pending action items
Administrative
+ LibreOffice conference dates and times will be announced this week
Development
+ Create a list of functions to check-mark completed
+ separate by categories.
+ Add wiki page header for translations on all project pages
+ leave translation to community
+ Use MathML for math equations
+ use LibreOffice Math for equation and export to mathML or use a
mathML editor to get mathML xml.
+ Render mathematical formulas between ... tags
+ Preserve warning and notes from Help in wiki
+ {{note| bla bla bla }}
+ {{warning| bla bla bla}}
+ Avoid excessive warnings/notes in page (SF)
Meeting ajourned
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[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes October 8th 2020 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes October 8th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Travis Stewart, Dave Barton, Rafael Lima, Olivier, Soren Jonsson, Emiliano Vavassori Telegram Channel https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ Live TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: + Front and back covers for 7.0 release (OH) Pending items: + Change in workflow News: PLease come to LibreOffice Conference 2020 next week ! https://conference.libreoffice.org Topics and Discussion: + Suggestions for Database Functions (S Fanning) + Answered in the same document, need finishing touch (OH) + Objective: rewrite/improve Calc Database functions Help + Seasons of Doc update (OH) + Wiki on Calc Functions + E-learning (hosted by LibreItalia) + Covers for Guides + Overall result appreciated (all) + Nextcloud Folder in duplicate (Dave) + Archive folder /Cover7/ + Keep folder /cover7.0/ + Credits to Rizal Mutaqin and Drew Jensen in chapters + Covers are memory intense, slow to handle/render (RL) + hi-res using SVG (OH) + Can we use PNG? (RL) + up to Guide team discretion (OH) + please use a copy of source to play with (OH) + Math Guide (Rafael Lima) + Like the book, very complete + I write Academic tech papers with math equations, + Math is important + Adding new contents and examples for 7.0 + Other topics + NC performance ? + Sometimes slow, but not so often (DB) + Editing with LOOL is very slow (DB) + Issue with copy/move several files at once with web UI + learned to do it one by one. + No issue in download (RL) + LOOL is slow in FFox but better in Chrome (RL) + New Workflow + Not changed directory structure yet (DB) + About to finish Chap 3 of Contrib Guide + Later I'll mirror in wiki (DB) + Writing Style for help (Travis) + Are there recommendations for writing? (Travis) + Contributor Guide, Chap 4 + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/StyleGuide#Writing_style + LibreLogo (Travis) + interested in the language (Travis) + Should we write a tutorial on LibreLogo (?) + Write a wiki page on Logo, link from Help pages for further reading + Too much contents in Help will oveload translators(OH) + stick to the essential in Help, extend in Wiki + Help pages from search engines (RL) + search for LibreOffice leads to old wiki help (RL) + Wiki Help was released in 2010, (OH) + Until LO 6.1, when Help changed technology/URLs + 8 years of organic indexing won't vanish quickly (OH) + SEO is an avenue for permanent routine work/improvement (OH) + can speed up indexing but requires energy(OH) + API documentation (Soren Jonsson) + sent mail to doc list, no answer, will resend + API doc is hard for end-users, occasional macro programmer (OH) + Was writen for developers, familiar to object-oriented languages (RL) + Tried to code calc cell border in python, took time (RL) + Many Help pages on python by LibreOfficiant, please check (OH) + Interested in topic too (Travis) + there is a working group on scripting devel and doc (OH) Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* October 22th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes August 27th 2020
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes August 27th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Steve Fanning, Dan Lewis, Felipe Viggiano, Olivier, Sam, Emiliano Vavassori. Telegram Channel https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ Live TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: * Update Contributor Guide for e-PUB - Tabs issue + See discussion below, e-pub may not worth effort. Pending items: News: Base Guide development (Dan) + Pulkit invitation to comment on the document for the outline. + Please comment. Topics and Discussion: Calc: what is a simple database? (Dan) + Calc Databases are "flat" + Should we name Calc database as "flat database"? (Dan) + Remove "simple" in the chapter title. Epub: * about epub quality (Olivier) + Some issues with export to e-pub (Olivier) + Energy to spend in fixing export (olivier) + Is E-pub a popular format today? (Olivier) * Suggested readers? + Calibre hard to use, low quality (olivier) + What is the advantage of e-pub? (Emiliano) + Most e-readers handle PDF well (Emiliano) + LibreOffice Magazine (Brazil) was edited in A5 format (Olivier) + In *theory*, just change page size. + Publish 2 PDF's? (open question) Templates: Where we stand? (Steve) + Calc Guide getting ready for publication (steve) + Need a decision on the template (steve) + Not sure how to select best template (olivier) + Ask design team for advise (Sam) AI:+ Ping Jean W. and Peter S. for comments in mailing list. Meeting adjourned. Next meeting : *THURSDAY* September 10th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Doc Team Meeting minutes Sept 24th 2020
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes September 24th 2020 at 18:00 UTC.
Presents: Samantha Hamilton, Dan Lewis, Dave Barton, Olivier
Telegram Channel
https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ
Live TDF Jitsi Room
https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam
Completed items:
+ Final template, PLease use it!
/Contributors Resources/LibreOffice-template-JHW-DB2.ott
+ rename to LibreOffice-Template-7.0.ott
Pending items:
+ Change in workflow
News:
+ Blog post on Doc team Status
+
https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/09/24/documentation-team-status/
+ Video on SSO
+ https://www.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/SSO-explanation.mp4
or
+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSzOS1Ls9WE
Topics and Discussion:
+ Location of finished books
+ Nextcloud (for developers)
+ Pros
+ Root of all source and published files, no "scattering"
of files
+ Cons
+ clumsy way to download (intermediate page)
+ has LibreOffice Online associated to ODT files
+ Wiki page on published books (for end users)
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
+ Pros
+ books displays altogether for download
+ Wiki management well known by authors
+ Holds all contents (PDF + ODT)
+ Cons
+
+ Documentation website(for end users)
https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/
+ Pro
+ easy to get the book
+ quick navigation
+ Cons
+ hard to maintain (must know html, silverStripe CMS)
+ Upload/thumbnails must be manually uploaded/updated
+
+ Extension website (for end users)
https://extensions.libreoffice.org/?Tags%5B%5D=53
+ Pro
+ Very easy to upload and upgrade books
+ Fairly good navigation ("bookstore")
+ feature to give "stars" on the guide
+ Allow comments on Guides direclty from public
+ Cons
+ look unfinished,
+ Confusing mixture with extensions and templates
+ still on test
+ tweaked to fit new "Additions" dialog (7.1)
Meeting ajourned
Next meeting : *THURSDAY* September 24th 2020 at 18:00 UTC.
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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Meeting Minutes - Doc team meeting of 5/21/2020
Em 22/05/2020 00:13, Olivier Hallot escreveu: > Thursday May 21st 2020, 18:00 UTC > > + Call for Documentation Mentor >+ Need 2 more mentors for Google seasons of Doc > + Solver for Calc >+ Help pages almost ready, waiting for wiki contents (Olivier) >+ What is >+ Espilon level in Linear Solver (1 phrase) >+ Branch and bound (1 phrase) I found some lines in the internet, enough for a start. Help pages published https://help.libreoffice.org/7.0/en-US/text/scalc/01/solver.html?DbPAR=CALC https://help.libreoffice.org/7.0/en-US/text/scalc/01/solver_options.html?DbPAR=CALC https://help.libreoffice.org/7.0/en-US/text/scalc/01/solver_options_algo.html?DbPAR=CALC >+ Use OpenOffice NLP wiki contents as a start in LO wiki >e.g: [NLPSolver] Done. I opened an empty page for later community work. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NLPSolver Regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Math Guide 7.0 is Published !
https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/10/20/libreoffice-math-guide-7-0-is-published/ -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Wiki Help on Calc Function, Meeting Minutes 27 oct 2020
Meeting Minutes 27 oct 2020 Presents: Olivier, Ronnie Pending action items Check connections of DB ranges and Datasources. (Olivier) Completed action items Statistical function about to be completed Administrative Development Review comments of Steve (Ronnie) Database functions Finishing Statistical functions Start Financial functions when possible Track errors of Help/Data/implementation in file stored in cloud for later bug submission Consider to write a blog post at the end of the project -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Doc team meeting minutes July 2nd, 2020
Thursday July 2nd 2020, 18:00 UTC Presents: Dan Lewis, Olivier, Drew Jensen, Emiliano Vavassori, Juan C Sanz IRC chanel: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc Telegram Group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ Live TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: Pending items: * Update Contributor Guide for e-PUB - Tabs issue News: + Bug that prevented Master Documents TOC to work is fixed + Available for 7.0 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130151 Topics and Discussion: + The road for 7.0 + Cover + Setting up a new computer to resume work (Drew) Questions and Answers + LOOL Guide + How is LOOL guide (Drew)? + Great strides in development since 6.3 (olivier) + Guide will need deep review + Some issues to sort (Emiliano) + security, packaging (E.V.) + more information in public board meeting July 3rd. Next meeting : *THURSDAY* July 16th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation team meeting minutes June 18th 2020
Thursday June 18th 2020, 18:00 UTC Presents: Emiliano Vavassori, Dan Lewis, Drew Jensen, Collen Hayes, Annie Nguyen, Olivier Hallot IRC chanel: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc Telegram Group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ Live TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: Pending items: * Update Contributor Guide for e-PUB - Tabs issue (olivier) Topics and Discussion: * The road for 7.0 + Cover + Proposals in the cloud at folder (...)/Contributor resources/Cover7 + Suggested changes (to be evaluated next meeting): + light grey background to app light color (EV) x keep Light Grey (Colleen) + Wavy footer to have app color background, adjust "7.0" font color accordingly + white background is OK too (Dan) + Set header background with same as footer color, adjust logo color accordingly + *please work on a copy of the source file* * The Extension & Documentation website + https://extensions.libreoffice.org/?Tags%5B%5D=53 + Extension site framework is good for quick PDF/epub download (olivier) + work in progress, several enhancements in the queue + easy of book upload management + has version control, allow revisions/erratas (as "upgrades") + Can anybody upload files? (Drew) + yes, but there is moderation though (olivier). + Questions and Answers + Chapter 7.0 template + The bullet/number list style must be adjusted before the b/n paragraph style(Dan) + export to EPUB + LibreOffice Epub Export generates hundred of character styles + can clean up 100's of them + Question: Has anyone proposed a documentation presentation/other? session for the LO/OpenSuse conference? (drew) + Call for paper open until July 21st + Linux South East virtual was awsome (Drew) + Used zoom + Jisti, 100's attendants + session has virtual moderators, for questions funneling + questions sent by Telegram + IRC + better than expected, good interaction (Drew) Next meeting : *THURSDAY* July 2nd 2020 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes, Thursday July 16th 2020
Thursday July 16th 2020, 18:00 UTC Presents: Samantha, Annie, Drew, Dan Lewis, Felipe Viggiano, Olivier, Emiliano (at 20:21) IRC chanel: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc Telegram Group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ Live TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: Pending items: * Update Contributor Guide for e-PUB - Tabs issue News: Topics and Discussion: * Welcome new volunteers + Samantha (Sam) + Annie (Annie) + Felipe (Felipe) + Glad to have a new revisor (Dan) + Guides are a good choice for newcomers to get used in Tech Writing (drew) * Chapter Template for Version 7 + No discussion * Covers + New suggestion from Robert for the Base (Drew) + will publish in mailing list (Drew) + team will select between the 2 (Drew) * Q & A + Epub + No hifen in the bullet lists (Dan) + Exploring 7.0 template for epub (Dan) + New Books + Better marketing of the guides (Drew) + + Consider new books focused in Use cases + e.g. book on "Statistics using Calc" (Drew) + e.g. "Financials using Calc" (Olivier) + e.g. "How to write a thesis" (Emiliano) + Book for LO public schools in Brazil for teens (Felipe) + In Italy too (Emiliano) + Introductory Presentation on TDF Doc Team for Toronto, CA LibreOffice group - Aug 5th - virtual. Request is that presentation cover team overview and specifically how new contributors should on-board into the team. (Drew - Request for presentation from Marc Pare) AI:+ Will send a presentation to Drew (Olivier) Next meeting : *THURSDAY* July 30th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation team meeting minutes July 30th 2020
Thursday July 30th 2020, 18:00 UTC Presents: Gordon, Samantha, Olivier, Felipe, Emiliano IRC chanel: https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc Telegram Group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ Live TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: + Will send a presentation to Drew (Olivier) Pending items: * Update Contributor Guide for e-PUB - Tabs issue News: Topics and Discussion: + Need for revision in wiki? (Gordon) + No need of revision "a priori". (olivier) + Join the documentation team (Gordon): https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/JoinDocTeam https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/join-the-documentation-team/ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Team Next meeting : *THURSDAY* August 13th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes January 7th 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes January 7th 2021 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Bala, Rafael, Dave, Olivier Telegram Channel https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ Live TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: + odtclean.py is not working any more on linux (fixed) Pending items: + Change in workflow (DB) + Objective: rewrite/improve Calc Database functions Help (SF) + Update on database ranges + Contributor guide + Needs reviews of Peter S on Chap 2. + Plan to get chap 1 update in wiki by next meeting (Dave) News: Google Seasons of Doc 2020 finished and awarded + Advanced Calc E-Learning + https://moodle.documentfoundation.org + Calc Functions + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions Topics and Discussion: + Contributor Guides Chap 1 (Dave) + Character styles: What impact in translations? (Dave) + Use of Styles requeires a lot of attention and discipline of usage (DB) + Need to clarify Emphasis and other styles in the text. + Question on Published and Cleaned + today WIP -> Published + Published = cleaned + Have a person to do cleaning and published + Add a section on cleaning in the Contributor Guide + odtclean.py and "Clean Direct Formatting" (OH) + Screen Capture + Hard to define an unique OS for screenshot (Rafael) + Don't use a dark theme (Consensus) + Math Guide (Rafael) + Rel 7.1 has some new stuff (RL) + How to update? (RL) + Just do it...(OH) + Will handle in Feb, after 7.1 release (RL) + Conditional Formatting Help pages (OH) + 2 bugs open, 1 on core/, the other on help/ + Bala will give a try (Win10) + Guidance by Olivier in IRC Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* January 21st 2021 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes December 3rd 2020 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes December 3rd 2020 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Olivier, Bala, Rafael Lima Telegram Channel https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ Live TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: Pending items: + Change in workflow (DB) + Objective: rewrite/improve Calc Database functions Help (SF) + Updat on database ranges + odtclean.py is not working any more on linux + Contributor guide + Needs reviews of Peter S on Chap 2. + Write to find a "referee". News: Topics and Discussion: + How to start contributing in Help (Bala) + will send a mail with (OH) + a Help bug to pick + instructions to get started in gerrit + Interested on documenting Basic (Rafael) + User knows VBA and have issues in LO Basic + Concept of Service is not trivial + Need to improve doc on API concepts + Hard to get the param of services meaning + q: is there a mailing list for macro programming issues? + Introduce Rafael Lima to Macro group (OH) + Tutorials are important from migrating VBA to LO (RL) + E-Learning is also a good idea (OH) + Interested also in Python (RL) + LO leads in Python integration + Questions on Chap 2 of the Contrib Guide (RL). + Start a thread on the topic in lists + Need Meeting adjourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* December 17th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Meeting Minutes 24 Nov 2020, GSOD2020 Wiki Calc Functions
Meeting Minutes 24 Nov 2020 Presents: Ronnie, Steve, Olivier Completed items: + Completed sheet and financial category functions Pending action items + Name 6 date functions for Ronnie Administrative + Prepare to write final report, starting Nov 30. Development + Added several functions to the review lists for Help and Bugzilla + Issue with SHEET function (cf standard compliance) + Some functions took much more time than expected because 1) many details, and 2) some functions had issues. + File emailed containing formula for ODDLYIELD. + Bug raised on ODDFPRICE and ODDFYIELD. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Meeting Minutes 1 Dec 2020 - GSOD - Calc Functions Wiki pages.
Meeting Minutes 1 Dec 2020 * Presents: Ronnie, Steve Olivier * Completed items +8 Date and time functions + REGEX function +Guidelines +Statistical function review +Financial review (part) * Pending items * Administrative + Write the final report as asked by Google + Send the link for review. * Development / Conclusion +Opportunity to review all the functions +improve quality of the reading and the contents +Further clarification to be added in the future +Feedback to the Help pages in terms of clarification too. +Proven that we need a new technology for Help pages +Review process delayed completion, but added quality to the work done so far +Include hints and tips for creating images and other graphical pieces + AI: Need to review of the remaining functions (Steve) + List available in the control spreadsheet + AI: Complete the rest of the functions (Steve, Olivier) + From now on it’s volunteer work + XIRR function: Difference in results between results, clarify date formats and guess. + Great thanks to Ronnie for the works Project ended. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes December 17th 2020 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes December 17th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Bala Muthu, Dave Barton, Olivier Telegram Channel https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ Live TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: Pending items: + Change in workflow (DB) + Objective: rewrite/improve Calc Database functions Help (SF) + Update on database ranges + odtclean.py is not working any more on linux + Contributor guide + Needs reviews of Peter S on Chap 2. News: Topics and Discussion: - Editorial on Calc Guide Chap 13. (Olivier) + Chap 13 describe several database function/features accessed thru macros + Macros are a necesssary evil to replace custom missing features + but not in this case, macros listed replace UI (Uno) commands + turns chapter hard to read, unecessary complexity + suggest to drop macros and review chap 13 + suggest enhance DB functions description with good examples. + Suggest to reuse and adapt the contents in Chap 12 Macros (Dave) + Reuse DB functions contents from GSOD2020 (Steve Fanning, by mail) + Approved. - Collecting images in Guides (Peter S.) + No need to be concerned with storage + Older files can be in archive folder and even deleted + Cleanup older Guide archive files (Dave) - Our pt_BR experience with matecat.com for translating guides (Olivier) + comments, do's and don'ts + matecat.com (open source) + https://github.com/matecat/MateCat + Accept ODF files, preserve all formatting + Automatic translations, surprising hit rate and accuracy. + Can select industry area of source text + seems to borrow translation memory from public/open TM's + Nevertheless requires further review + spared 90% of the translation work + some funny mistakes though + Sometimes get confused with widget labels in sentence. + "OK" -> "All is good" + "Help" -> "Rescue" - Contributor Guide (Dave) + Plan to get chap 1 update in wiki by next meeting (Dave) Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* January 7th 2021 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] GSOD2020, Wiki Calc Functions, Meeting Minutes 10 Nov. 2020
Meeting Minutes 10 Nov. 2020 Presents: Ronnie, Steve, Olivier Completed action items ~35% of the financial function done Steve Review of Statistical functions Administrative Contacted GSOD for admin stuffs, all is OK (Ronnie) Development AI: List the important functions to address up to the deadline (Olivier) Template for Basis arguments (used in ~30 functions)?(Steve) Fill the guidelines template for the Calc Function Help pages: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions/Guidelines First draft by Ronnie. Meeting ajourned -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes November 19th 2020 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes November 19th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Travis, Dan Lewis, Sam Hamilton, Olivier, Rafael Lima, Paul Sutton, kingu Telegram Channel https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ Live TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: + Calc Guide Issue (Steve) Pending items: + Change in workflow (DB) + Objective: rewrite/improve Calc Database functions Help (SF) + Updat on database ranges + odtclean.py is not working any more on linux + Contributor guide + Needs reviews of Peter S on Chap 2. + Write to find a "referee". News: + The Calc Guide 7.0 is There! (OH) + Blog post Topics and Discussion: * Please fill the Authors wiki page + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Team * Tool to collect/record errors and mistakes in Guides (Dave) + Maybe a section of notes in the NextCloud "Contributor Resources" that theauthor(s) starting the next editions of the guides can refer to. + I am happy to set this arrangement up and maintain it.(DB) + Have a file separated by guide name collecting all issues found + get from mail and priovate messages + coordinators pick the issues and fix for next release * LibreOffice Basic standard libraries reference documentation (Travis) + https://api.libreoffice.org + Hard to undestand + generated by auto tools + https://help.libreoffice.org/7.1/en-US/text/sbasic/shared/03/lib_tools.html?DbPAR=BASIC + AI: Introduce Travis to macro group (Olivier) + Hard to find info on API in internet for the end-user (Rafael) + https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/macro/ > (https://www.pitonyak.org/book/ was mentioned) * Videos (Paul Sutton) + Good to have a set of videos with a curriculum (OH) + Do we need to have audio translated? + better have script for translation of captions (OH) + Upload script for translation in weblate (kingu) + may be too much for videos (olivier) + Mike Saunders has a lot of experience in videos. * LibreOffice online (Dan Lewis) + People asking for doc on the topic in dev list (DL) + Need to update the 6.3 guide (OH) Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* December 3rd 2020 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Meeting Minutes 17 Nov 2020, GSOD2020 Wiki Calc Functions
Meeting Minutes 17 Nov 2020 Presents: Ronnie Gandhi, Steve Fanning, Olivier Completed items: +Important functions: +Spreadsheet functions + REGEX, + 6 DATE functions for timesheet calculation Administrative Development + 10 Financial functions remaining (Ronnie) + Works on the review of the Statistical functions + Work on the template for the parameter functions of the financial functions + List 6 Date functions for development (Olivier) + Copyright issues covered in mailing lists (Steve) + oddfyield, oddlprice, to review for examples and correctness + 30% review of the financial functions (Steve) Meeting adjourned -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] The LibreOffice Calc Guide 7.0 Just Arrived!
Hear! Hear ! https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/11/15/the-libreoffice-calc-guide-7-0-just-arrived/ A big thank you for Steve Fanning, Gordon Bates, Kees Kriek, Annie Nguyen, Samantha Hamilton, Jean Hollis Weber, and Felipe Viggiano. Cheers -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Meeting Minutes 3 Nov. 2020, GSOD2020 Wiki Calc Functions,
Meeting Minutes 3 Nov. 2020 Presents: Olivier, Ronnie, Steve Completed action items + Check connections of DB ranges and Datasources. (Olivier) + Added to DB section in wiki (Ronnie) + Database section final edit done based on Steve and Olivier’s detailed comments (Ronnie) + Ended statistical functions editing (Ronnie) Administrative + Filled GSoD 2020 survey for Tech Writer (Ronnie) + Filled GSoD 2020 mentor survey (Steve) Development + Improving grammar and the content of statistical functions (Steve) + Start financial functions (Ronnie) + Re-edit remaining statistical functions based on Steve’s comments (Ronnie) + Need for a second review (by sample) on the functions, checking the suggestions are implemented (Steve) + I can do it (Olivier) + Consider to ask for help from the community (after the project is over) End of meeting -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes October 22th 2020 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes October 22th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Dan Lewis, Rafael Lima, Dave Barton, Olivier, Telegram Channel https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ Live TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: + Math Guide 7.0 is published + Objective: rewrite/improve Calc Database functions Help (SF) Pending items: + Change in workflow (DB) + Update on database ranges vs named range (olivier) News: + Math Guide 7.0 released + Kudos for Rafael Lima !!! Topics and Discussion: + Other topics + New Workflow (Dave had audio issues with jitsi) + See chat extraction in the bottom of these minutes + Conference videos (RL) + Will be available soon, perhaps early next week.(OH) + Will send e-mail when available (DL) + Will be in the Blog (EV) + E-learning in Calc + We will set the contest in LibreItalia (OH) + The we will move to TDF when finished (OH) + May be some diff in versions (EV) + Nothing against leaving the course inside LibreItalia until completion (EV) + Math Guide 7.0 + Some Fr students want to translate (OH) + Hard to find Math Guide in a search in Internet (RL) ===Extract from jitsi chat=== Dave Barton Have Updated the Guide on NextCloud. I answered today. 15:21 Rafael Lima Dave, should I refer to the Contributor's Guide on NextCloud ? 15:22 Dave Barton It's unfortunate he joined us at this time Yes 15:22 Rafael Lima That's fine... I'll learn by doing 15:23 Dave Barton I will discuss by email 15:23 end of chat === Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* November 5th 2020 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes January 21th 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes January 21th 2021 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Rafael Lima, Alain Romedenne, Steve Fanning, Winston, Olivier Telegram Channel https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ Live TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: + odtclean.py is not working any more on linux + Fixed. Pending items: + Change in workflow (DB) + Objective: rewrite/improve Calc Database functions Help (SF) + Update on database ranges + Macros have been moved to wiki, translations enabled + Contributor guide + Needs reviews of Peter S on Chap 2. + Plan to get chap 1 update in wiki by next meeting (Dave) News: Topics and Discussion: + ScriptForge Help pages on LO 7.1 (Rafael/Alain) + Introduction page in 7.1 + Not possible any more for 7.1 (string freeze) + Add a link in the release notes on SF help page + A blog post on SF with link to Help 7.2 + AI: Need + marketing on SF + AI: See the rejected patch + Telegram group on ScriptForge. Update on the Calc Functions Wiki (SF) + There is still work to do + Fixing my own comments (SF) + Help appreciated for the remaining of the task. Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* February 4th 2021 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes June 24, 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes June 24, 2021 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Steve Fanning, Olivier Telegram-group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: Pending items: AI: Join_The_Doc_Team.odp + Will review and enhance it (Dave) AI: Consider a video (3 min) introducing doc team and doc tasks (OH) AI: Open badges? (OH) News: Topics and Discussion: SF - would like to discuss the relationship between the Help pages and the Calc Functions Wiki. What is the best way to ensure that users are aware of the extra information that is being included in many of these wiki pages? * Add links in the help pages to the wiki pages. Add text link after the Examples section of the function's help description. * Do it by chunks to avoid too much workload in translation (Olivier) (e.g around 10 links per month?) SF - does the approval of ODF 1.3 have any immediate impacts on the Documentation Team? * Review the chapters that has it as option for the module SF - do we need to include some information about "wildcards" in the help? * Open a bug to implement a Help page on wildcards Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* July 1st 2021 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes May 27, 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes May 27, 2021 at 18:00 UTC. Preesents: Olivier, Dave Barton Telegram-group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: AI: + Archive partial documentation and close on NextCloud. (Dave) + Old files can confuse newcomers + Zip files to clean up folders + Housekeeping done. + IMPORTANT: Do not link from Next Cloud - Link to Wiki copies. Pending items: AI: Join_The_Doc_Team.odp + Will review and enhance it (Dave) AI: Consider a video (3 min) introducing doc team and doc tasks (OH) AI: Open badges? (OH) News: + Calc Guide 7.1 released. Yay !! Topics and Discussion: + find a more convenient time to people to join the meeting(Dave) + I'm going to help Peter on the Draw Guide + Bookshelf project (proof-of-concept in progress) (OH) https://books.libreoffice.org/en/ +General (Vasudev Narayanan) + Bidirectional mapping against Online Help versus Module Guide (VN) The suggestion is to create a bidirectional mapping document against the help document and the respective module guide. The guide will include detailed use cases to implement the features focusing on specific or general industry cases. + As for more information on the idea + Good to have a live meeting to discuss idea + everithing is possibel here + Advanced topics concentration like Statistics using Calc, Extending R and Calc + More for development rather tha doc (Dave) + Raise as suggestion in bugzilla (Olivier) + Wiki is the best place for it (DAve) + Draw Guide (Peter Schofield) + Can the chapters in the Work In Progress folder for the Draw Guide 7.1 be reviewed and commented on so I can then start the publishing process for the Draw Guide. AI: Welcome New contributor Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* June 10th 2021 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes July 8th, 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes July 8th, 2021 at 18:00 UTC. Presents:Olivier, Lee Greathouse (has audio issues w/ jitsi) Telegram-group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: Pending items: AI: Join_The_Doc_Team.odp + Will review and enhance it (Dave) AI: Consider a video (3 min) introducing doc team and doc tasks (OH) AI: Open badges? (OH) News: Getting Started 7.1 published in HTML format + https://books.libreoffice.org/en/GS71/GS71.html Topics and Discussion: * Talk (chat) with Lee Greathouse (audio issues in meeting) + How to join the team * I miss a section in the preface with a more consistent description of the changes between Guide editions.(Olivier) + "What is new in this Guide" + release notes too much techie and terse + does not reflect the changes in the book + for example, the new interface, the new feature XYZ in chapt NNN Comments? * For GS 7.2 I'd like to introduce some changes in chapters (Olivier) + no changes in format or layout (same styles) + add sections that eases my export to HTML. + Comments? Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* July 22 2021 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes April 29th 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes April 29th 2021 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Dave Barton, Olivier, Felipe Viggiano Telegram Channel https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ Live TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: Development of LibreOffice Tutorials 6.4 stalled for over a year. AI: + Submit a new proposal for 7.1 template, discuss in ML. + No needed anymore (see below) Pending items: AI: + Archive partial documentation and close on NextCloud. (Dave) + Old files can confuse newcomers + Zip files to cleanup folders News: Topics and Discussion: + Template 7.1 + My interest is to have it explained in the wiki (DB) + For the new authors + For new Authors, presentation on how to start (OH) + LibreOffice Documentation/English/Contributor Resources/ Join_The_Doc_Team.odp + Will review and enhance it (Dave) + Consider a video (3 min) introducing doc team and doc tasks (OH) + See with TDF resources + Copyright, acknowledgements: + One copyright for all chapters (OH) + include all current and past contributors + Have a external copyright file and link into the Chapter and full book + example (copyright taken from full book) LibreOffice Documentation/Brazilian Portuguese/Guia de Introdução/7.0/Publicado/copyright.odt + New user interface + JW is writing on the new user interfaces (OH) + Have a certificate for participation (Felipe) + Some volunteers need for Resumé entries (Felipe) + Open badges? (OH) + Certificate? (Felipe) + Names already in the Copyright, but need more (OH) + Bookshelf project (Proof of concept in progress) (OH) + Publish Guides as static HTML files + Aimed to be read in browser or tablets directly + Full guides with same formatting as book + except for page display + not a single word changed from published guide + Can also be installed in schools, colleges, libraries + organizations of any size, + Support for migration and deployment of LibreOffice + No server scripts, pure static files + take advantage of web technology: CSS, Javascript, HTML5 + Open for dynamic reading + Voice reading + Local contents search + Skills needed + web page design + css, js, html + Some demands related to exporting Guides to HTML (olivier) + These request have no visual impact on PDF/ODT + On each chapter 1) Set name the top image of chapter as "LibreOfficeLogo" 2) set paragraph style of logo as "New Chapter" 3) wrap logo paragraph in a section named "SEC_LOGO" 4) wrap Guide name below logo in section of name "SEC_GUIDE" 5) Wrap Title and Subtitle in a section named "SEC_TITLE" 6) wrap from first Heading1 to end of documment in a section named "SEC_DISPLAYAREA" + do not include copyright matter + do not include Table of Contents Sample file: LibreOffice Documentation/Brazilian Portuguese/Guia de Introdução/7.0/Publicado/ GS7003-EstilosEModelos.odt So far, read online some guides at https://books.libreoffice.org/en/ https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/ Project team members wanted ! Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* May 13th 2021 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes March 18th 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes March 18th 2021 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Dave Barton, Rafael Lima, Olivier Hallot Telegram Channel https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ Live TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: Pending items: News: Topics and Discussion: * Google Seasons of Doc + we need ideas, please give your ideas + It is important that we also deal with development doc (Rafael) + From proper experience, starting dev't is tough (Rafael) + Need doc on how to start + AOO has a dev guide (outdated) (Olivier) + Plan to migrate to LO and to update to 2021 times (Olivier) AI: + Can be offered to TW, will see with Ilmari (Olivier) + Development doc requires tech skills + API doc? + more? + User doc is already well covered (Books, wiki, FAq...) + but not a closed topic + GSOD Tech Writer should not kill the fun of the community (Olivier) + Community like to work on Guides (All) + Base guide? (Rafael) + We have a Base Guide 6.4 (Olivier) + https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/ + More E-Learning? ( what?) (OH) + Guides -> textbook + exercises? (OH) + Publication of Guides in HTML format + I'm fine with PDF online (Dave) + Idea to add more entry pts in LO documentation (Olivier) + Get better Search Engine results ? (Olivier) + Some experiences in place, but work in progress: + https://books.libreoffice.org/en/GS70/GS7000-Preface.html + https://books.libreoffice.org/pt-br/CG70/CG7000.html + more to come, stay tuned. + Requires review of Chapter files formatting (Olivier) + took me 40 min per chapter to fit for HTML export (Olivier) + Shortening the revision cycle for small updates + 2-round revision takes too much time + very little update in many Guides + But Writer guide has important changes (Dave) + Trust expert reviser/updater? (Olivier) + We should trust skilled authors. (All) + They likely not doing dumb things (Dave) + Proposal of Template for 7.1 AI: + Submit a new proposal for 7.1 template, discuss in ML. + Address issues found in current template + Address requirements for other export formats + work in 2 spaces (OH) + 1) Aesthetics ( + 2) Internal changes invisible to curret ODF outputs + will help exporting to other formats (EPub, HTML5) + 3) Sanity check script to + Check acessibility requirements + Check unofficial (spurious, legacy) styles + Check compliance with template directives. + Clean direct formatting (e.g odtclean.py) Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* April 1st 2021 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes February 18th 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes February 18th 2021 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Ahmad, Dave Burton, Olivier, Rafael Lima, Tuomas Hietala Telegram Channel https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ Live TDF Jitsi Room https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: Pending items: + Change in workflow (DB) + Objective: rewrite/improve Calc Database functions Help (SF) + Update on database ranges + Macros have been moved to wiki, translations enabled + Chapter updated and available for review (SF) + Contributor guide + Needs reviews of Peter S on Chap 2. + Plan to get chap 1 update in wiki by next meeting (Dave) News: Topics and Discussion: * A 5th character style for the Guides Templates?(OH) + purpose: Highlight UI widgets in text Examples: ... Select 'Add File Section to Document' radio button to... ... click 'New Style From Selection' icon ... + Suggestion 1: LibreOffice Mono 11pt (Dave Barton, PVT) + Suggestion 2: LibreOffice Mono 11pt, italic, light gray background (OH) + Bring the proposal to NC (DB), let other comment AI: Upload sample in Cloud and annouce in mailing list * Question: Do we need Guides as a web pages? Sample https://newdesign.libreoffice.org/guides/pt/CG70/CG7005.html + Effort is already measured and feasible (OH) + will write a blog post on How-To convert Chapter to HTML page (OH) + Semi automated, need few manual interventions (OH) + HTML page will get attention from search engines (Rafael) + SE don't crawl PDF nicely (Rafael) + Write a summary explaining the process, leave details for later (Dave) + Avoid obvious question: "Is it nice?" (OH) Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* March 4th 2021 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes September 2nd 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes September 2nd 2021 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Laura V., Steve F., Dave B., Olivier Telegram-group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: * Update calc guide formatting for 7.2 (SF) * Help pages on new 7.2 features - Open Help bugs on many new features(OH) - Some of the 7.2 improvements already registered and addressed Pending items: AI: Join_The_Doc_Team.odp + Will review and enhance it (Dave) AI: Consider a video (3 min) introducing doc team and doc tasks (OH) [VN - Vasudev Narayanan] pending discussion 1. Possibility of receiving a build (prior release) for documentation testing? This will help immensely to document the instructions, and usability. What do you think? 2. A monthly plan of activities or tasks that need to be addressed from the documentation team. Maybe a kanban board to enlist important items to complete? Volunteers can pitch in to take the task. News: Please register for LibreOffice Conference 2021 + https://conference.libreoffice.org/2021/registration-form/ Topics and Discussion: * Some issues in updating Guides + Image anchoring + AS_ CHARACTER https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides#How_to_insert_images_into_ODT_files + Import images, either + Delete old image beforehand and the paste the new image + delete the old image and import new image from a file + either case, delete old image. + When pasting new image over old one produces distortion + new image inherit dimensions of old one. + Image references: + Prefer references as "Category and number" + Was only "number" by demand from translators + Now machine translation can handle categories + I have a script that make the changes in 1 sec (Olivier) + can run script upstream (Olivier) + Can we avoid "Figure NN on page YY" ? + "on page YY" is meaningless in online docs + Most reference are hot hyperlinks so click to get to the image + Eventually use "above/below" + I prefer to keep as is (Steve) + has meaning for paper book readers + I can manage downstream in online publication (Olivier) ==> Keep as is + same for "Title XYZ on page YY" + title references are hot hiperlinks + use "above/below" is necessary + check excessive repetition of above and below in paragraph + same reasons as above (SF) ==> Keep as is + List cleanup + Style "List 1" visually identical as "Text Body" with bullet + hard to spot + often breaks when applies style change + I have a script to clean this (Olivier) + Please apply on new revised CG72 chapters + Review of Numbered lists + open, I have no scripts (Olivier) + numbered list are restarted too often + Updates of the Calc Guide 7.2 + Shall we jump to 7.3? + No... 7.2 quite ready to publish (Steve) ==> Upload for 1rev of Calc Guide 7.2 soon (Steve) + Notebook bar for Calc + Write Guide has N.bar described in chap 21 (Olivier) * Updates on the wiki + How to make changes in wiki, can I do it directly? (Laura) + we have a discussion tab on each wiki page, use it (Steve) + All changes can be reverted by sysadmin (Olivier) + Newcommers, please go thru Style Guide for good English tech writing: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/StyleGuide Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* September 16th 2021 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes October 14th 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes October 14th 2021 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Rachel, Steve, Olivier Telegram-group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: + Comments on CONVERT_OOO patch, check w/ Steve + Give Moodle credentials to Mitchell (need to change roles) Pending items: AI: Join_The_Doc_Team.odp + Will review and enhance it (Dave) AI: Consider a video (3 min) introducing doc team and doc tasks (OH) Activities (recap) * Not started + Base Guide update + Math Guide update * Ongoing work Review draft Calc Guide chapters Review draft Draw / Impress chapters Review Calc function wiki pages Address problems with Help (Olivier) News: Topics and Discussion: * Updating the guides. + Streamline the process: RL: I'm second reviewer in Impress chapter + need a lot of corections on 2nd rev, typos, etc.. + Lot of stylist rewrite, call for grammar review + Try to get consensus on style within the team. + style changes requires 2dn review SF: Calc guide does not need lengthy review + Dead line November 30th (time release) + Chapter User interface CG7215 (RL) + Check with Felipe and Rafael. -> Case by case basis Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* October 28th 2021 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes September 30 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes September 30 2021 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Mitchell, Rachel, Zibi, Steve, Olivier Telegram-group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: Pending items: AI: Join_The_Doc_Team.odp + Will review and enhance it (Dave) AI: Consider a video (3 min) introducing doc team and doc tasks (OH) News: Topics and Discussion: Kanban Board (Zibi) + Place to put tasks to be done + everyone check and take tasks + set priorities + I Use Jira (Zibi), but there are others + Sounds as management tools to me (Steve) + Work on Guides is a work "forever", repeat after next version + Spreadsheet functions of Kanban board (Rachel) Activities (Steve) Not started + Base Guide update + Math Guide update Ongoing work Review draft Calc Guide chapters Review draft Draw / Impress chapters Review Calc function wiki pages Address problems with Help (Olivier) Hybrid education model (Mitchell) 1. This is not specific to documentation. Today, Hybrid education model is in place. How is LibreOffice trying to utilize the opportunity? For example, external addons like PearDeck are colloborating with Microsoft and Google for creating instructional contents. The advantage here is about enhancing the addressable market. What do you think? + Moodle is available for developing LibreOffice courses + Standard installation + Need contents and management/administration AI: Give Moodle credentials to Mitchell (olivier) Miscellaneous + Time of the meeting is ok for the participants (All) + Very good presentation by Tim Brennan of Brazil on LibOConf (Steve) + Suggest the Doc team do the same kind of online meeting (Steve) + = free discussion on doc activities + Comments on CONVERT_OOO patch, AI: check w/ Steve Meeting adjourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* October 14th 2021 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Hear ! Hear ! The Impresss Guide 7.2 just arrived !
Spread the word !!! https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/11/20/announcing-the-impress-guide-7-2/ Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes November 11th 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes November 11th 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
Presents: Steve, Olivier
Telegram-group
https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ
TDF Jitsi
https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam
Completed items:
Pending items:
AI: Join_The_Doc_Team.odp
+ Will review and enhance it (Dave)
AI: Consider a video (3 min) introducing doc team and doc tasks (OH)
AI: Give Moodle credentials to Mitchell
Activities (recap)
Not started
+ Base Guide update
+ Math Guide update
Ongoing work
Review draft Calc Guide chapters
Review draft Draw / Impress chapters
Review Calc function wiki pages
Address problems with Help (Olivier)
News:
Topics and Discussion:
* Guides: Time to update the BASE Guide?
+ After the Calc guide is published (SF)
+ Steve raises hand!
* Clean Direct Formatting
+ What tool to use for cleaning direct formatting? (SF)
+ I had my own macro: (OH)
Sub CleanDF
rem Simple script to clean direct formatting of paragraphs.
rem Note: it does not clean paragraphs in tables or frames
rem ---
rem define variables
dim document as Object
dim dispatcher as Object
oParEnum = Thiscomponent.Text.createEnumeration()
document = ThisComponent.CurrentController.Frame
dispatcher = createUnoService("com.sun.star.frame.DispatchHelper")
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, ".uno:GoToStartOfDoc", "", 0,
Array())
Do While oParEnum.hasMoreElements()
oPar = oParEnum.nextElement()
If oPar.supportsService("com.sun.star.text.Paragraph") Then
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, ".uno:GoToStartOfLine",
"", 0, Array())
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, ".uno:EndOfParaSel", "",
0, Array())
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, ".uno:ResetAttributes",
"", 0, Array())
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, ".uno:GoToNextPara", "",
0, Array())
End If
Loop
msgbox "Done cleaning"
End Sub
rem ---
+ Food for thought on preparing chapter for publication
+ create an extension with macros for
- clean direct formatting
- clean bulleted and number list
- sanity check of styles: detect non-official styles
+ add comment where it exist, prompt user...
- extension can add a toolbar or submenu for ease of use
+ can also be part of chapter template
* Template changer:
LibreOffice Documentation/English/Contributor Resources/Other Resources/
TemplateChanger-L-2.0.1.oxt
* Calc Functions Wiki
+ MAny functions ready for translation
+ Call communities to work on translations
+ good starting point for community members on translation
+ Check with Ilmari is everything is OK to announce.
Meeting ajourned
Next meeting : *THURSDAY* November 25th 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
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[libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes November 11th 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
Hello Peter
The book covers are ready in the folder /Contributor
Resources/Cover7.2/Draw/
Regards
Olivier
Em 12/11/2021 11:35, Peter Schofield escreveu:
Hello Olivier
I have started updating the Draw chapters to LO 7.2. This should not take too
long as it looks like there is minimal changes between 7.1 snd 7.2. Then it
will be attempting a rewrite of Master Documents in the Writer Guide for LO 7.3
as I do fell this chapter needs it to make it easier to understand.
Regards
Peter Schofield
psaut...@gmail.com
Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team
On 12 Nov 2021, at 12:33, Olivier Hallot wrote:
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes November 11th 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
Presents: Steve, Olivier
Telegram-group
https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ
TDF Jitsi
https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam
Completed items:
Pending items:
AI: Join_The_Doc_Team.odp
+ Will review and enhance it (Dave)
AI: Consider a video (3 min) introducing doc team and doc tasks (OH)
AI: Give Moodle credentials to Mitchell
Activities (recap)
Not started
+ Base Guide update
+ Math Guide update
Ongoing work
Review draft Calc Guide chapters
Review draft Draw / Impress chapters
Review Calc function wiki pages
Address problems with Help (Olivier)
News:
Topics and Discussion:
* Guides: Time to update the BASE Guide?
+ After the Calc guide is published (SF)
+ Steve raises hand!
* Clean Direct Formatting
+ What tool to use for cleaning direct formatting? (SF)
+ I had my own macro: (OH)
Sub CleanDF
rem Simple script to clean direct formatting of paragraphs.
rem Note: it does not clean paragraphs in tables or frames
rem ---
rem define variables
dim document as Object
dim dispatcher as Object
oParEnum = Thiscomponent.Text.createEnumeration()
document = ThisComponent.CurrentController.Frame
dispatcher = createUnoService("com.sun.star.frame.DispatchHelper")
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, ".uno:GoToStartOfDoc", "", 0, Array())
Do While oParEnum.hasMoreElements()
oPar = oParEnum.nextElement()
If oPar.supportsService("com.sun.star.text.Paragraph") Then
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, ".uno:GoToStartOfLine", "", 0,
Array())
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, ".uno:EndOfParaSel", "", 0,
Array())
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, ".uno:ResetAttributes", "", 0,
Array())
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, ".uno:GoToNextPara", "", 0,
Array())
End If
Loop
msgbox "Done cleaning"
End Sub
rem ---
+ Food for thought on preparing chapter for publication
+ create an extension with macros for
- clean direct formatting
- clean bulleted and number list
- sanity check of styles: detect non-official styles
+ add comment where it exist, prompt user...
- extension can add a toolbar or submenu for ease of use
+ can also be part of chapter template
* Template changer:
LibreOffice Documentation/English/Contributor Resources/Other Resources/
TemplateChanger-L-2.0.1.oxt
* Calc Functions Wiki
+ MAny functions ready for translation
+ Call communities to work on translations
+ good starting point for community members on translation
+ Check with Ilmari is everything is OK to announce.
Meeting ajourned
Next meeting : *THURSDAY* November 25th 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
--
Olivier Hallot
LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator
Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00
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[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes December 9th 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes December 9th 2021 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Steve Fanning, Olivier Hallot Telegram-group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: + Base Guide + Math Guide (under revision) Pending items: AI: Join_The_Doc_Team.odp + Will review and enhance it (Dave) AI: Consider a video (3 min) introducing doc team and doc tasks (OH) AI: + create an extension with macros for - clean direct formatting - clean bulleted and number list - sanity check of styles: detect non-official styles + add comment where it exist, prompt user... - extension can add a toolbar or submenu for ease of use + can also be part of chapter template * Calc Functions Wiki + Call communities to work on translations + good starting point for community members on translation AI: + Check with Ilmari is everything is OK to announce. Activities (recap) Ongoing work Review draft Draw / Impress chapters Review Base chapter Review Calc functions wiki pages Address problems with Help (Olivier) News: + Please cast your VOTE for the BOARD of Directors + Base guide 7.2 published ! Topics and Discussion: Base Guide (Steve) + Glad to take it to improve (steve) + a little better in positive ways + Go thru and remove "negativity" (e.g. list of bugs) + Problem likely to review Base guide + not a popular app, few users with knowledge + Chances to get revisions from other language teams Scripting Guides + Needs interested people to start Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* January 6th 2022 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes July 22th, 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes July 22th, 2021 at 18:00 UTC. Presents:Steve Fanning, Olivier Telegram-group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: + Open badges (OH) Pending items: AI: Join_The_Doc_Team.odp + Will review and enhance it (Dave) AI: Consider a video (3 min) introducing doc team and doc tasks (OH) News: Topics and Discussion: * Update calc guide formatting for 7.2 (SF) AI:- Cleanup and create 7.2 folder + covers (OH) * Can we add links from Calc guide to wiki - Yes, will improve contents (OH) * Add QR code to add in Calc guide? (SF) - Already described in GS Ch 10 (Printing, exporting...) - Borrow from GS * Column layout in calc text boxes? - Mention where appropriate * Write Help/Wiki pages on new features for 7.2 - Search command dialog - Styles inspector improvements - Developers tools - Object Inspector - Rafael Lima (docs) and Hossein Nourikhah (TDF) are on it * Help pages on new 7.2 features - Open Help bugs on many new features(OH) - Some of the 7.2 improvements already registered and addressed * User interface - Need description contents for UI for Calc (SF) - Borrow from writer guide descriptions(OH) * General + Too much revision may lead to pedantic changes + Shorten revision cycles for docs with very few/zero changes Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* August 5th 2021 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes January 6th 2022 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes January 6th 2022 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Steve Fanning, Olivier Telegram-group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: Pending items: AI: Join_The_Doc_Team.odp + Will review and enhance it (Dave) AI: Consider a video (3 min) introducing doc team and doc tasks (OH) AI: + create an extension with macros for - clean direct formatting - clean bulleted and number list - sanity check of styles: detect non-official styles + add comment where it exist, prompt user... - extension can add a toolbar or submenu for ease of use + can also be part of chapter template * Calc Functions Wiki + Call communities to work on translations + good starting point for community members on translation Activities (recap) Ongoing work Review draft Calc Guide chapters Review Base guide Review draft Draw / Impress chapters Review Calc function wiki pages Address problems with Help (Olivier) News: + Published Draw Guide 7.2 + Published Writer Guide 7.2 macOS edition + blog post Topics and Discussion: Base Guide + Avoid to rewrite contents for no added value. + waste precious time of revisors. + Intermediate publication of the Base guide (Steve) + continuous updates of Base guide + borrow time-release idea from software developement + publish as available, correction in next publication + rev1, rev2, rev N + reset revisions at major release + Developers support for Base Guides + Lionel Elie Mamane is one of Base experts (lio...@mamane.lu) + Robert Großkopf + more Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* January 20th 2022 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes March 31st 2022 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes March 31st 2022 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Olivier, Dave, Steve Telegram-group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: Pending items: Activities (recap) Ongoing work Review draft Calc Guide chapters Review Base guide Review draft Draw / Impress chapters Review Calc function wiki pages Address problems with Help (Olivier) News: + LibreOffice 7.3.2 released today (3/31/2022) Topics and Discussion: Code Colorizing: [3/31 - VN]: - As the developer community uses Writer and Impress to communicate code snippets with their peers, code highlighting or colorizing is a beneficial feature. Enhancing existing features in Writer (Styles -> Source Text) to include colorizing and indentation can be the starting point. However, this requires UI and Engineering team to take it forward. + Base guide need more attention on accuracy rather than color code (SF) + Code colorizing is an nice addition (all) Release Notes: [3/31 - VN]: Including the experimental features in the release notes will be helpful for the authors and reviewers. Is there a possibility to include these items in the release notes? + Remind developers to list experimental modes in release notes + Do the team wish to change the documentation development workflow and adopt this macro process? + covered in the code colorizing topic * Guides error/mistake report (OH) + Need a better way to let readers report mistakes and errors. + Mailing List ? + Bugzilla ? + Redmine ? + Ask (aka Discourse)? + We need to clearly inform user where to report (e.g. in the Preface) + Ask Advise to experts + Nextcloud app for tracking issues? Some reports followed in Bugzilla: * 145916 – Writer Guide confuses AutoText with Macro https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145916 * 145917 – Getting Started Guide, Chapt 13 on Macro: confusing, repetitive, and not well organized https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145917 * 148254 – User guide: text referring to wrong field in English LO7.2 Base Guide https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148254 Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* April 14th 2022 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes February 3rd 2022 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes February 3rd 2022 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Olivier Telegram-group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: Pending items: AI: Join_The_Doc_Team.odp + Will review and enhance it (Dave) AI: Consider a video (3 min) introducing doc team and doc tasks (OH) AI: + create an extension with macros for - clean direct formatting - clean bulleted and number list - sanity check of styles: detect non-official styles + add comment where it exist, prompt user... - extension can add a toolbar or submenu for ease of use + can also be part of chapter template * Calc Functions Wiki + Call communities to work on translations + good starting point for community members on translation AI: + Check with Ilmari is everything is OK to announce. Activities (recap) Ongoing work Review draft Calc Guide chapters Review Base guide Review draft Draw / Impress chapters Review Calc function wiki pages Address problems with Help (Olivier) News: + LibreOffice 7.3 released yesterday (2/2/2022) Topics and Discussion: * [Vasudev Narayanan (22-Jan-22)]: Is there any possibility to collect our volunteers' birth month or their anniversary month? Fortnightly or monthly, we could email a collective greeting card within the group. What do you think? + A friendly idea but also delicate issue, can be personal and cultural.(Olivier) + Birthday info is a personal matter, some people uncomfortable to have it public + TDF also cares on privacy for legal reasons + TDF membership does not ask for b'day info, neither nationality, and other info + Matter should be brought to membership committee and Board of Directors for eval. * [Rob Westein 3-feb-2022]: 3 members of the Dutch community are working on the translation of the Base Guide. I've made some tests using MateCAT to help us translating...that will save us a lot of time. But I noticed that MateCAT asks private info like your contacts when register to work with MateCAT. Some users do not want to register when this kind of info is asked. Is it possible to have our own installation of MateCAT hosted on TDF servers?. Hope that the registration will be easier for the users and respect their privacy. I'm sure that more translators would like to use this fantastic Open Source tool. Best Regards Rob Westein +Experience on Matecat from Brazilians (Olivier) + Brazilians are using Matecat since early 2020 for Guides + Excellent response and high quality,~Google, Bing equ services + Used for 1st translation round + Upload chapter, run auto-translation, d/l translated + handles ODF, no format glitch. + no need for login + no desire to keep a pt-BR translation memory (TM) + sure it improves translation if TM exist but... + Guide updates carried directly from en-US guide changelog + Release notes + Community fun is to review machine translation and fix contents mistakes + no more language issues-> brought crowd to the doc team. + Matecat is open source + github + can be offered as external service or installed on premises + ask infra and/or set budget for + start with redmine ticket. + personal note (Olivier) + machine translation superseed TM in speed and effort, modulo review. + enormous savings on typing + excellent for pt-BR, 99% understandable (guess) + Matecat could deliver suggestion alongside weblate TM. Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* February 17th 2022 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-projects] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes April 28th 2022 at 18:00 UTC.
Documentation Team Meeting Minutes April 28th 2022 at 18:00 UTC. Presents: Steve Fanning, Olivier Telegram-group https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ TDF Jitsi https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam Completed items: Pending items: Activities (recap) Ongoing work Review draft Calc Guide chapters Review Base guide Review draft Draw / Impress chapters Review Calc function wiki pages Address problems with Help (Olivier) News: + Impress Guide 7.0 in Spanish published as HTML Topics and Discussion: + New Forum for Documentation team (testing) + Awaiting for final release + (no point to use if msg will not be kept) + On-going activities + Translation of database for non-English + question from a local team translator + not advisable, too complex, too risky + Chap 2 (Steve) + Thanks Robert for the assistance (Steve) + Check must go into technical issues not so much for English (Steve) + Reviews + Too much reviews for little changes between releases + Publish draft of the Base 7.3 (Steve) + Rename Published/ to Published-Rev0/ + then Published-Rev1, and so on + Review moderation of comments in chapters (olivier) + Reporting errors in our guides: + specific system for bug reporting too hard and overhelming + Send mails to documentation@global looks enough + people should collect mistakes from mailing list + Advertise channel for reporting mistakes in the Guide Preface + i.e. send a mail to us. Meeting ajourned Next meeting : *THURSDAY* May 12th 2022 at 18:00 UTC. -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
