Re: [PEDA] 2004 netlist revisted

2004-03-31 Thread edsi
Thank you  Bob and Phil,

I feel less insane now.  I alos tried everything . I even did control C , control V on 
the lib name and carefully re-pasted in my netlist.
Ian, this should answer your question about my typo. 

The only thing I didn't yet was follow my process of clearing the netlist first, then 
loading a clean one in.   I have been doing this religiously on 99SE and have never, 
ever, ever had a hic-up.  I am going to save the pcb, the netlist and the libs in 
their un-altered format and will re-visit it in  a few days.  If I dont figure it out, 
then I will forward it to Protel.  I still have to get this design done so the changes 
I make to it might not allow the problem to show up again

Thanks for confirming that  someone else has seen similar problems,
Im not totally nuts 

Mike Reagan
















Phil,
I can add that this has happened to me too, hasn't been very recently
though.
But in my case it was not a netlist load it was from a schematic, it would
not load parts, tried like crazy to figure out what happened. I did close
the ngo back in and it did eventually work , but never really
figured out what exactly cuased it to work. Again not sure if the
close and open of program was what did it.
Libraries were good and correct just would not do the update till
much playing around.

Bob Wolfe

- Original Message - 
From: Phillip Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 6:25 PM
Subject: [PEDA] Re[2]: 2004 netlist revisted



 Mike,

 I have seen DXP (SP2 W2k SP4) do something very similar to this.  In fact
it just
 happened to me (again) not 5 mins ago.  Add a few parts to the schematic,
 work awhile,  make some changes,  do an update PCB,  and the new added
parts are not
 brought in.  I believe I also got a dialog message,  something or other
 about being unable to execute ECO?... The message once it starts
 happening is very repeatable.  Close everything down,  restart DXP,  then
 it works just fine,  no more message,  no more problems.

 Sounds like a similar problem,  so my guess is it is not you.

 It will be unfortunate if this problem has persisted since SP2,
 Through the SP3 PR,  and on into P2004.  It seems to happen frequently
 enough that it should have been found and fixed by now.  Like I say I've
 seen it happen at least twice now,  just in the last week.

 ---Phil


 e It is now afternoon, the netlist I received this morning is
 e obsolete.  No problem.  There are only changes are 4 footprints,
 e SO8 TO SO14.  I can handle that I boast to the customer.  I modify
 e his netlist accordingly. Cough Cough Choke, 2004 will not update
 e the parts no matter what I do.   I shut everything down, bring it
 e back up and one part is updated to S014.  This can not be me.

 e Is there anyone out there that has actally done this proceedure
 e 100 times and not just read about it?  It has to be buggy if only
 e one part changed.  ARGHH


 e Mike Reagan











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Re: [PEDA] 2004 netlist revisted

2004-03-31 Thread Jaurique, Brad
What does C.I.I. mean.  

-Original Message-
From: Brooks,Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:53 PM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
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This is serious Mike. 

I would go back to the old software and get my customer happy first... and
take this up with tech support. Sounds like Protel is still performing true
to form... release it before its done and fix it on the designer's time...
and nickel. 
How disappointing...

Bill Brooks 
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510


-Original Message-
From: edsi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 2:11 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 netlist revisted [mx]


It is now afternoon, the netlist I received this morning is obsolete.  No
problem.  There are only changes are 4 footprints, SO8 TO SO14.  I can
handle that I boast to the customer.  I modify his netlist accordingly.
Cough Cough Choke, 2004 will not update the parts no matter what I do.   I
shut everything down, bring it back up and one part is updated to S014.
This can not be me.  

Is there anyone out there that has actally done this proceedure 100 times
and not just read about it?  It has to be buggy if only one part changed.
ARGHH


Mike Reagan





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Re: [PEDA] 2004 netlist revisted

2004-03-31 Thread Brooks,Bill
Certified Interconnect INSTRUCTOR. 

I teach the CID workshop when I am not designing boards. I also volunteer my
time to help run the San Diego Chapter of the IPC Designers Council, and sit
on the Executive Committee, Education Committee, and Steering Committee of
the National IPC DC organization. I also write articles for PCDM
magazine... 
Hmmm.. I think I might need a vacation. lol

Bill Brooks 
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510


-Original Message-
From: Jaurique, Brad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:17 AM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 netlist revisted [mx]

What does C.I.I. mean.  

-Original Message-
From: Brooks,Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:53 PM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 netlist revisted


This is serious Mike. 

I would go back to the old software and get my customer happy first... and
take this up with tech support. Sounds like Protel is still performing true
to form... release it before its done and fix it on the designer's time...
and nickel. 
How disappointing...

Bill Brooks 
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510


-Original Message-
From: edsi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 2:11 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 netlist revisted [mx]


It is now afternoon, the netlist I received this morning is obsolete.  No
problem.  There are only changes are 4 footprints, SO8 TO SO14.  I can
handle that I boast to the customer.  I modify his netlist accordingly.
Cough Cough Choke, 2004 will not update the parts no matter what I do.   I
shut everything down, bring it back up and one part is updated to S014.
This can not be me.  

Is there anyone out there that has actally done this proceedure 100 times
and not just read about it?  It has to be buggy if only one part changed.
ARGHH


Mike Reagan






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[PEDA] Simulations in DXP - Special Functions and their parameters

2004-03-31 Thread Finks, Tim (VER)
Does Protel (Altium) publish a comprehensive reference of some sort
describing each block in the Simulation Special Functions library, including
a description of each parameter associated with each block?

-Tim


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[PEDA] Design rules transfer to 2004 DXP

2004-03-31 Thread Mehrdad Salami
Hi,
 
I have installed protel2004 and opened a 99SE project. The rules are not
transferred at all. I wonder if someone knows how to transfer rules
along the PCB.
 
 
Sal
 
 


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