Re: [PEDA] patent OT
You mean something like this: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1 u=/netahtml/srchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=6058192.WKU.OS=PN/6058192RS=PN/60 58192 Brian, you thief! You pirate! How dare you design an illegal descrambler box! And you had the audacity to get a patent on it! ;-) Seriously, though, how was this different than the descramblers for cable TV? I remember using a cable descrambler (a legal one) as early as 1982. That predates your patent quite a bit. Side note: that USB audio uber-codec you are working on, does it have SPDIF in/out? I'd like to connect it to the coax digital input on my Yamaha receiver. Right now I take the SPDIF output from the Soundblaster Live and convert it to RS485 differential signal with optical isolation (using homebrew circuitry), run it into the living room over unused Cat5 pair, and convert it back to SPDIF. I'd want to do the same thing with yours. Can it be used that way? Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] License Legalities OT You mean something like this: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1 u=/netahtml/srchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=6058192.WKU.OS=PN/6058192RS=PN/60 58192 _ Brian Guralnick * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] patent OT
Brian, you thief! You pirate! How dare you design an illegal descrambler box! And you had the audacity to get a patent on it! ;-) Actually, my largest customers were legitimate cable companies, who wanted to keep using their existing discontinued encoders for cheaper channels, where they did not want to up-grade their head end, but maintain multi-platform compatibility. My partner and I were even investigated by federal forces, and I we were cleared for distributing the cable boxes in the states. Seriously, though, how was this different than the descramblers for cable TV? I remember using a cable descrambler (a legal one) as early as 1982. That predates your patent quite a bit. Well, my unit is basically a Time-Base-Corrector, with a narrow PLL locked to the silent time during sync color subcarrier burst just after. It actually doesn't care for how the signal was originally encoded. 1982?, could you mean 1992? -- Side note: that USB audio uber-codec you are working on, does it have SPDIF in/out? I'd like to connect it to the coax digital input on my Yamaha receiver. There is no definition in the SPDIF standard. I can output a SACD compliant bit stream, 24bit/chan, 192Khz + preamp control, from my digital side, however, I doubt you will find a better analog out than my analog pod, unless you already have a DA unit with a transformer-tube IV conversion stage, and a 128 step passive attenuator stage. It will be possible to run a standard Ethernet cable from the PC digital side unit to you living room with a DA converter side. Note that you will also have a HDTV picture embedded in the signal as well. --- My main modules concerning mostly the video: ftp://ftp.pages.infinit.net/bd2.jpg 93kb They are now being stuffed, I expect to have them sometime next week. I have 2 more audio modules, out of 6, to finish, their Gerbers will be going out by Friday this week. _ Brian Guralnick - Original Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] patent OT You mean something like this: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1 u=/netahtml/srchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=6058192.WKU.OS=PN/6058192RS=PN/60 58192 Brian, you thief! You pirate! How dare you design an illegal descrambler box! And you had the audacity to get a patent on it! ;-) Seriously, though, how was this different than the descramblers for cable TV? I remember using a cable descrambler (a legal one) as early as 1982. That predates your patent quite a bit. Side note: that USB audio uber-codec you are working on, does it have SPDIF in/out? I'd like to connect it to the coax digital input on my Yamaha receiver. Right now I take the SPDIF output from the Soundblaster Live and convert it to RS485 differential signal with optical isolation (using homebrew circuitry), run it into the living room over unused Cat5 pair, and convert it back to SPDIF. I'd want to do the same thing with yours. Can it be used that way? Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] License Legalities OT You mean something like this: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1 u=/netahtml/srchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=6058192.WKU.OS=PN/6058192RS=PN/60 58192 _ Brian Guralnick * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] patent OT
Link ERROR- My main modules concerning mostly the video: ftp://ftp.pages.infinit.net/bd2.jpg 93kb Correct link- http://pages.infinit.net/helloftp/bd2.jpg 93kb _ Brian Guralnick - Original Message - From: Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] patent OT Brian, you thief! You pirate! How dare you design an illegal descrambler box! And you had the audacity to get a patent on it! ;-) Actually, my largest customers were legitimate cable companies, who wanted to keep using their existing discontinued encoders for cheaper channels, where they did not want to up-grade their head end, but maintain multi-platform compatibility. My partner and I were even investigated by federal forces, and I we were cleared for distributing the cable boxes in the states. Seriously, though, how was this different than the descramblers for cable TV? I remember using a cable descrambler (a legal one) as early as 1982. That predates your patent quite a bit. Well, my unit is basically a Time-Base-Corrector, with a narrow PLL locked to the silent time during sync color subcarrier burst just after. It actually doesn't care for how the signal was originally encoded. 1982?, could you mean 1992? -- Side note: that USB audio uber-codec you are working on, does it have SPDIF in/out? I'd like to connect it to the coax digital input on my Yamaha receiver. There is no definition in the SPDIF standard. I can output a SACD compliant bit stream, 24bit/chan, 192Khz + preamp control, from my digital side, however, I doubt you will find a better analog out than my analog pod, unless you already have a DA unit with a transformer-tube IV conversion stage, and a 128 step passive attenuator stage. It will be possible to run a standard Ethernet cable from the PC digital side unit to you living room with a DA converter side. Note that you will also have a HDTV picture embedded in the signal as well. --- My main modules concerning mostly the video: ftp://ftp.pages.infinit.net/bd2.jpg 93kb They are now being stuffed, I expect to have them sometime next week. I have 2 more audio modules, out of 6, to finish, their Gerbers will be going out by Friday this week. _ Brian Guralnick - Original Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] patent OT You mean something like this: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1 u=/netahtml/srchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=6058192.WKU.OS=PN/6058192RS=PN/60 58192 Brian, you thief! You pirate! How dare you design an illegal descrambler box! And you had the audacity to get a patent on it! ;-) Seriously, though, how was this different than the descramblers for cable TV? I remember using a cable descrambler (a legal one) as early as 1982. That predates your patent quite a bit. Side note: that USB audio uber-codec you are working on, does it have SPDIF in/out? I'd like to connect it to the coax digital input on my Yamaha receiver. Right now I take the SPDIF output from the Soundblaster Live and convert it to RS485 differential signal with optical isolation (using homebrew circuitry), run it into the living room over unused Cat5 pair, and convert it back to SPDIF. I'd want to do the same thing with yours. Can it be used that way? Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] License Legalities OT You mean something like this: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1 u=/netahtml/srchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=6058192.WKU.OS=PN/6058192RS=PN/60 58192 _ Brian Guralnick * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
