Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated
I've looked at a few places locally but I'm getting some better quotes from out-of-town places. If you are going to have to ship out boards/parts anyway does it really matter where it goes. I am looking for the High-mix/Low-volume for sure btw... Thanks for all the input people and keep those recommendations coming as I continue my research. matt -Original Message- From: John Haddy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 7:23 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated Matt, Another issue is whether you'll be providing a full kit of parts or whether you want the assembler to source materials for you. If the latter then there may be some advantage to approaching a larger shop (that will have a more extensive parts store). I would personally recommend looking for a firm that is keen to establish a close working relationship with you over a longer term - even though your boards may be occasional small-batch stuff. Every designer should expect to get constructive feedback from their fabricators and assemblers as to aspects of a board's design that limits yields. This sort of feedback doesn't happen unless the fabricator/assembler values your business and is keen to assist in improving your product. The catchphrase that you should be asking about when talking to assemblers is whether they're geared for High-mix/Low-volume. The structure of SMT assembly lines varies with their intended application, so you want a firm that expects to reconfigure their machines on a regular basis. I would have thought that you'd be spoilt for options around RTP! Cheers, John Haddy > -Original Message- > From: Matt Daggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2002 6:32 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated > > > Small Runs... and preferably places with online quote ability. > > -Original Message- > From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:37 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated > > > In your recommendations of board population houses, please > indicate whether > or not they do small and medium volume runs. > > I have seen plenty of outfits that only want to talk to you if you can > guarantee them 1/2 million dollars of business per year. Yeah, right... > > Best regards, > Ivan Baggett > Bagotronix Inc. > website: www.bagotronix.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "Steve Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:19 AM > Subject: Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated > > > > We have had a good relationship with Tabtronics in > > Dayton, Ohio www.tabtronx.com. > > > > Steve Smith > > Product Engineer > > Staco Energy Products Co. > > Web Site: www.stacoenergy.com > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Matt Daggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:10 AM > > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > > Subject: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated > > > > > > > > > Since we were on the subject of board fab the last few > > > weeks... what are some > > > good places to get boards populated. > > > > > > Also thanks for the recommendations on the PCB houses... I > > > got 2 boards back > > > from Advance Circuits last week and they are great. Few day > > > turnaround and I > > > didn't even have to speak with a human about the process. > > > They get my thumbs > > > up. > > > > > > matt > > > > > > ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > > Matt Daggett > > > MCNC - Signal Electronics Division > > > 3021 Cornwallis Road > > > Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 > > > voice: 919-248-9278 fax: 919-248-1455 > > > http://www.mcnc.org/wireless/ > > > º¤ø,¸,ø¤º > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated
Matt, Another issue is whether you'll be providing a full kit of parts or whether you want the assembler to source materials for you. If the latter then there may be some advantage to approaching a larger shop (that will have a more extensive parts store). I would personally recommend looking for a firm that is keen to establish a close working relationship with you over a longer term - even though your boards may be occasional small-batch stuff. Every designer should expect to get constructive feedback from their fabricators and assemblers as to aspects of a board's design that limits yields. This sort of feedback doesn't happen unless the fabricator/assembler values your business and is keen to assist in improving your product. The catchphrase that you should be asking about when talking to assemblers is whether they're geared for High-mix/Low-volume. The structure of SMT assembly lines varies with their intended application, so you want a firm that expects to reconfigure their machines on a regular basis. I would have thought that you'd be spoilt for options around RTP! Cheers, John Haddy > -Original Message- > From: Matt Daggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2002 6:32 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated > > > Small Runs... and preferably places with online quote ability. > > -Original Message- > From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:37 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated > > > In your recommendations of board population houses, please > indicate whether > or not they do small and medium volume runs. > > I have seen plenty of outfits that only want to talk to you if you can > guarantee them 1/2 million dollars of business per year. Yeah, right... > > Best regards, > Ivan Baggett > Bagotronix Inc. > website: www.bagotronix.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "Steve Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:19 AM > Subject: Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated > > > > We have had a good relationship with Tabtronics in > > Dayton, Ohio www.tabtronx.com. > > > > Steve Smith > > Product Engineer > > Staco Energy Products Co. > > Web Site: www.stacoenergy.com > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Matt Daggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:10 AM > > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > > Subject: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated > > > > > > > > > Since we were on the subject of board fab the last few > > > weeks... what are some > > > good places to get boards populated. > > > > > > Also thanks for the recommendations on the PCB houses... I > > > got 2 boards back > > > from Advance Circuits last week and they are great. Few day > > > turnaround and I > > > didn't even have to speak with a human about the process. > > > They get my thumbs > > > up. > > > > > > matt > > > > > > ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > > Matt Daggett > > > MCNC - Signal Electronics Division > > > 3021 Cornwallis Road > > > Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 > > > voice: 919-248-9278 fax: 919-248-1455 > > > http://www.mcnc.org/wireless/ > > > º¤ø,¸,ø¤º > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated
Our shop here specializes in prototype assembly as well as low to medium volumes through hole and surface mount. You can email me, Gary Allbee, at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or phone: Alta Industrial Automation Ltd Bay 3, 3911B Brandon St, Calgary, AB, T2G 4A7 403-717-0310 Regards, Gary Allbee Alta Industrial Automation Ltd Matt Daggett wrote: > Since we were on the subject of board fab the last few weeks... what are some > good places to get boards populated. > > Also thanks for the recommendations on the PCB houses... I got 2 boards back > from Advance Circuits last week and they are great. Few day turnaround and I > didn't even have to speak with a human about the process. They get my thumbs > up. > > matt > > ø¤º°`°º¤ø > Matt Daggett > MCNC - Signal Electronics Division > 3021 Cornwallis Road > Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 > voice: 919-248-9278 fax: 919-248-1455 > http://www.mcnc.org/wireless/ > º¤ø,¸,ø¤º * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated
Small Runs... and preferably places with online quote ability. -Original Message- From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:37 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated In your recommendations of board population houses, please indicate whether or not they do small and medium volume runs. I have seen plenty of outfits that only want to talk to you if you can guarantee them 1/2 million dollars of business per year. Yeah, right... Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "Steve Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated > We have had a good relationship with Tabtronics in > Dayton, Ohio www.tabtronx.com. > > Steve Smith > Product Engineer > Staco Energy Products Co. > Web Site: www.stacoenergy.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Matt Daggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:10 AM > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > Subject: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated > > > > > > Since we were on the subject of board fab the last few > > weeks... what are some > > good places to get boards populated. > > > > Also thanks for the recommendations on the PCB houses... I > > got 2 boards back > > from Advance Circuits last week and they are great. Few day > > turnaround and I > > didn't even have to speak with a human about the process. > > They get my thumbs > > up. > > > > matt > > > > ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > Matt Daggett > > MCNC - Signal Electronics Division > > 3021 Cornwallis Road > > Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 > > voice: 919-248-9278 fax: 919-248-1455 > > http://www.mcnc.org/wireless/ > > º¤ø,¸,ø¤º > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated
Tabtronics falls in the small to medium range - from 1 to 5000 pieces/year typical. We gone to other vendors and have always come back to them. Great pricing, good quality and easy to work with. Regards, Steve Smith Product Engineer Staco Energy Products Co. Web Site: www.stacoenergy.com > -Original Message- > From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:37 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated > > > In your recommendations of board population houses, please > indicate whether > or not they do small and medium volume runs. > > I have seen plenty of outfits that only want to talk to you if you can > guarantee them 1/2 million dollars of business per year. > Yeah, right... > > Best regards, > Ivan Baggett > Bagotronix Inc. > website: www.bagotronix.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "Steve Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:19 AM > Subject: Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated > > > > We have had a good relationship with Tabtronics in > > Dayton, Ohio www.tabtronx.com. > > > > Steve Smith > > Product Engineer > > Staco Energy Products Co. > > Web Site: www.stacoenergy.com > > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > > From: Matt Daggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:10 AM > > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > > Subject: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated > > > > > > > > > Since we were on the subject of board fab the last few > > > weeks... what are some > > > good places to get boards populated. > > > > > > Also thanks for the recommendations on the PCB houses... I > > > got 2 boards back > > > from Advance Circuits last week and they are great. Few day > > > turnaround and I > > > didn't even have to speak with a human about the process. > > > They get my thumbs > > > up. > > > > > > matt > > > > > > ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > > Matt Daggett > > > MCNC - Signal Electronics Division > > > 3021 Cornwallis Road > > > Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 > > > voice: 919-248-9278 fax: 919-248-1455 > > > http://www.mcnc.org/wireless/ > > > º¤ø,¸,ø¤º * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated
At 10:37 AM 10/1/2002 -0400, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: >In your recommendations of board population houses, please indicate whether >or not they do small and medium volume runs. > >I have seen plenty of outfits that only want to talk to you if you can guarantee them >1/2 million dollars of business per year. Yeah, right... Good point. Peripheron will do just about any size job, I know we've done some pretty small quantity jobs. Others are in the >$1M US/Yr range. Again, they do sign my checks, but I'm in the development side, literally 2000 miles away. Makes for a long, but happily infrequent commute :) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated
Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated
In your recommendations of board population houses, please indicate whether or not they do small and medium volume runs. I have seen plenty of outfits that only want to talk to you if you can guarantee them 1/2 million dollars of business per year. Yeah, right... Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "Steve Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated > We have had a good relationship with Tabtronics in > Dayton, Ohio www.tabtronx.com. > > Steve Smith > Product Engineer > Staco Energy Products Co. > Web Site: www.stacoenergy.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Matt Daggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:10 AM > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > Subject: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated > > > > > > Since we were on the subject of board fab the last few > > weeks... what are some > > good places to get boards populated. > > > > Also thanks for the recommendations on the PCB houses... I > > got 2 boards back > > from Advance Circuits last week and they are great. Few day > > turnaround and I > > didn't even have to speak with a human about the process. > > They get my thumbs > > up. > > > > matt > > > > ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > Matt Daggett > > MCNC - Signal Electronics Division > > 3021 Cornwallis Road > > Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 > > voice: 919-248-9278 fax: 919-248-1455 > > http://www.mcnc.org/wireless/ > > º¤ø,¸,ø¤º > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated
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Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated
We have had a good relationship with Tabtronics in Dayton, Ohio www.tabtronx.com. Steve Smith Product Engineer Staco Energy Products Co. Web Site: www.stacoenergy.com > -Original Message- > From: Matt Daggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:10 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated > > > Since we were on the subject of board fab the last few > weeks... what are some > good places to get boards populated. > > Also thanks for the recommendations on the PCB houses... I > got 2 boards back > from Advance Circuits last week and they are great. Few day > turnaround and I > didn't even have to speak with a human about the process. > They get my thumbs > up. > > matt > > ø¤º°`°º¤ø > Matt Daggett > MCNC - Signal Electronics Division > 3021 Cornwallis Road > Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 > voice: 919-248-9278 fax: 919-248-1455 > http://www.mcnc.org/wireless/ > º¤ø,¸,ø¤º * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated
At 10:10 AM 10/1/2002 -0400, Matt Daggett wrote: >Since we were on the subject of board fab the last few weeks... what are some good >places to get boards populated. I could recommend Peripheron in Vancouver BC, but they do sign my paychecks :) Seriously, their prices are low, and the shop manager is an absolute demon for quality. The US dollar vs canadian gives you some advantages as well. PeriPheron Technologies Ltd. #148-1538 Cliveden Ave. Delta, B.C., Canada V3M 6J8 Ph: (604) 515-9887 Fax: (604) 515-1484 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] OT - Good places to get boards populated
Since we were on the subject of board fab the last few weeks... what are some good places to get boards populated. Also thanks for the recommendations on the PCB houses... I got 2 boards back from Advance Circuits last week and they are great. Few day turnaround and I didn't even have to speak with a human about the process. They get my thumbs up. matt ø¤º°`°º¤ø Matt Daggett MCNC - Signal Electronics Division 3021 Cornwallis Road Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 voice: 919-248-9278 fax: 919-248-1455 http://www.mcnc.org/wireless/ º¤ø,¸,ø¤º * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
