Re: [PEDA] Antwort: Silver Immersion, was: Trace Width Charts

2003-09-29 Thread Chris Lowe
My experience was that we used silver for one of our products for the 
last batch (on the advice of our assembly house) and the results were at 
least as good as gold (price was the same, solderability was no problem) 
but this is the first time we have used it.   with thinking about lead 
free I am fairly certain that silver should prove a better finish as it 
doesn't add an extra intermetalic

Brian Guralnick wrote:

Good to know, except, I need results based on a much larger sample &
technical comparison info.  Since I have used gold successfully in the past,
I can't risk a test run silver based on 1 companies results.
Is there some sort of general PCB domain comparison between gold & silver?

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Brian Guralnick
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Brian,

we went completely away from gold, nothing but problems in the soldering
process. Silver showed much better results for us. The price is about the
same. Maybe it depends on the assembly house and the processes they are
using.
Mit freundlichem Gru 
Kind regards

Gisbert Auge
N.A.T. GmbH
www.nateurope.com


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I have just attended a meeting of the IPC Designers Council where the
subject of finishes for PCB's came up and it was revealed that Silver
Immersion seems to have great benefits for assembly, shelf life,
solderability, rework, etc...
Can anyone give me their experiences with the process and its benefits
   

and
 

down sides?  Have you personally used it, how long, what sort of problems
have you seen, what are the cost issues?
Best Regards,

Bill Brooks
"Politics is more difficult than Physics" - Albert Einstein
   

Good question.  I would also like to know how it compares to Gold
Immersion.
I've gone all gold on all of my current PCBs as a means to improve overall
general quality.
(eg: http://pages.infinit.net/helloftp/bd2.jpg
A-LA-CARTE AV headend scalar & switcher PCBs.)
Is silver any better, or cheaper?
_
Brian Guralnick
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I have just attended a meeting of the IPC Designers Council where the
subject of finishes for PCB's came up and it was revealed that Silver
Immersion seems to have great benefits for assembly, shelf life,
solderability, rework, etc...
Can anyone give me their experiences with the process and its benefits
   

and
 

down sides?  Have you personally used it, how long, what sort of problems
have you seen, what are the cost issues?
Best Regards,

Bill Brooks
"Politics is more difficult than Physics" - Albert Einstein
   









 



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Re: [PEDA] Antwort: Silver Immersion, was: Trace Width Charts

2003-09-26 Thread Brian Guralnick
Good to know, except, I need results based on a much larger sample &
technical comparison info.  Since I have used gold successfully in the past,
I can't risk a test run silver based on 1 companies results.

Is there some sort of general PCB domain comparison between gold & silver?

_
Brian Guralnick
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Brian,

we went completely away from gold, nothing but problems in the soldering
process. Silver showed much better results for us. The price is about the
same. Maybe it depends on the assembly house and the processes they are
using.

Mit freundlichem Gru 
Kind regards

Gisbert Auge
N.A.T. GmbH
www.nateurope.com




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>
> I have just attended a meeting of the IPC Designers Council where the
> subject of finishes for PCB's came up and it was revealed that Silver
> Immersion seems to have great benefits for assembly, shelf life,
> solderability, rework, etc...
>
> Can anyone give me their experiences with the process and its benefits
and
> down sides?  Have you personally used it, how long, what sort of problems
> have you seen, what are the cost issues?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Bill Brooks
> "Politics is more difficult than Physics" - Albert Einstein

Good question.  I would also like to know how it compares to Gold
Immersion.

I've gone all gold on all of my current PCBs as a means to improve overall
general quality.
(eg: http://pages.infinit.net/helloftp/bd2.jpg
A-LA-CARTE AV headend scalar & switcher PCBs.)

Is silver any better, or cheaper?
_
Brian Guralnick
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>
> I have just attended a meeting of the IPC Designers Council where the
> subject of finishes for PCB's came up and it was revealed that Silver
> Immersion seems to have great benefits for assembly, shelf life,
> solderability, rework, etc...
>
> Can anyone give me their experiences with the process and its benefits
and
> down sides?  Have you personally used it, how long, what sort of problems
> have you seen, what are the cost issues?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Bill Brooks
> "Politics is more difficult than Physics" - Albert Einstein
>
>









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