Re: [PEDA] Component Rotation
I thought about doing that..after I already designed it using standard symbols. -Original Message- From: Edi Im Hof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 October 2001 09:51 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Component Rotation At 16:15 24.10.01 +0100, you wrote: >I've already given up, and done it the standard way. >I tried drawing it at 45 degrees as a library symbol, but the pins still >had to be at 90 degrees. You can make zero-lenght pin and draw the pins with lines. Should work. Edi Im Hof >I was just designing a matrix, with about 50 odd diodes, and thought it >might be easier to rotate the diodes 90 degrees. > >-Original Message- >From: Samuel Cox "Sam" [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: 24 October 2001 16:18 >To: Protel EDA Forum >Subject: Re: [PEDA] Component Rotation > > >Steve... > >1.) the question should be rephrased to "Symbol Rotation".. not >"Component >Rotation".. >2.) Why would you want to rotate a symbol in Schematic capture to >something >other than >90 degrees.? This not standard practice. Also, keep in mind that your >pins >of the symbol need >to end up on a schematic grid point for wire connection to be >completed.. > >Answer: I do not even believe you can adjust the rotation of a symbol in >schematic to some angle >other than 90 degrees.. > >Workaround: If you are all fired up to still do it.. you will need to >create the symbol at 45 degrees >in the library to start with.. just make sure the pins are on an even >100mil grid.. > >Best wishes.. > > > > > > > >At 05:02 PM 10/24/01 +0200, you wrote: > >Steve wrote: > > > >> > Can anybody answer this quicker than me attempting to find it in >help > >> > files. > >> > > >> > I know how to adjust the rotation steps in PCB editor, but how do >you > >> > adjust in in schematics from 90 degrees to 45 degrees. > >> > > >> > Steve > > > >Steve, > >As far as I can see, you can only rotate in steps of 90 degrees in > >schematics. > > > >Have a nice day! > > > >Joop Reekers > >Semecs bv, Almelo NL > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Component Rotation
At 16:15 24.10.01 +0100, you wrote: >I've already given up, and done it the standard way. >I tried drawing it at 45 degrees as a library symbol, but the pins still >had to be at 90 degrees. You can make zero-lenght pin and draw the pins with lines. Should work. Edi Im Hof >I was just designing a matrix, with about 50 odd diodes, and thought it >might be easier to rotate the diodes 90 degrees. > >-Original Message- >From: Samuel Cox "Sam" [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: 24 October 2001 16:18 >To: Protel EDA Forum >Subject: Re: [PEDA] Component Rotation > > >Steve... > >1.) the question should be rephrased to "Symbol Rotation".. not >"Component >Rotation".. >2.) Why would you want to rotate a symbol in Schematic capture to >something >other than >90 degrees.? This not standard practice. Also, keep in mind that your >pins >of the symbol need >to end up on a schematic grid point for wire connection to be >completed.. > >Answer: I do not even believe you can adjust the rotation of a symbol in >schematic to some angle >other than 90 degrees.. > >Workaround: If you are all fired up to still do it.. you will need to >create the symbol at 45 degrees >in the library to start with.. just make sure the pins are on an even >100mil grid.. > >Best wishes.. > > > > > > > >At 05:02 PM 10/24/01 +0200, you wrote: > >Steve wrote: > > > >> > Can anybody answer this quicker than me attempting to find it in >help > >> > files. > >> > > >> > I know how to adjust the rotation steps in PCB editor, but how do >you > >> > adjust in in schematics from 90 degrees to 45 degrees. > >> > > >> > Steve > > > >Steve, > >As far as I can see, you can only rotate in steps of 90 degrees in > >schematics. > > > >Have a nice day! > > > >Joop Reekers > >Semecs bv, Almelo NL > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Component Rotation
At 01:11 PM 10/24/01 -0500, Cliff Ober wrote: >There's a number of new PC motherboards coming out with the large (>500 >balls) Northbridge chip rotated by 45 degrees - it can ease compliance with >the high speed bus constraints required for these designs. Component, i.e, footprint, rotation is not the issue here, it is schematic symbol rotation. Protel PCB supports 0.001 degree increment rotation. On the PCB, not on schematic, which is limited to 0, 90, 270 (and 360). One may draw symbol elements, however, in a symbol, to make it appear that the symbol has been rotated. Just not the pins. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abdulrahman Lomax Easthampton, Massachusetts USA * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Component Rotation
At 04:15 PM 10/24/01 +0100, Stephen Smith wrote: >I've already given up, and done it the standard way. >I tried drawing it at 45 degrees as a library symbol, but the pins still >had to be at 90 degrees. >I was just designing a matrix, with about 50 odd diodes, and thought it >might be easier to rotate the diodes 90 degrees. good reason to do it, I've seen such schematics many times. As long as the wires are going to be orthagonal the pins can also be orthagonal, it won't be visible. Another approach would be to make the pin length zero (I think that works) or very short. Make sure that the hot spot is on grid! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abdulrahman Lomax Easthampton, Massachusetts USA * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Component Rotation
That's not the issue. PCB placement can be at ANY orientation. (It's default is 90 degrees, but can be easily changed) They were talking about schematic placement. Tony > -Original Message- > From: Cliff Ober [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:12 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Component Rotation > > > There's a number of new PC motherboards coming out with the large (>500 > balls) Northbridge chip rotated by 45 degrees - it can ease > compliance with > the high speed bus constraints required for these designs. > > Cliff Ober * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Component Rotation
There's a number of new PC motherboards coming out with the large (>500 balls) Northbridge chip rotated by 45 degrees - it can ease compliance with the high speed bus constraints required for these designs. Cliff Ober -Original Message- From: Samuel Cox "Sam" [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:07 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Component Rotation Steve... 1.) the question should be rephrased to "Symbol Rotation".. not "Component Rotation".. 2.) Why would you want to rotate a symbol in Schematic capture to something other than 90 degrees.? This not standard practice. Also, keep in mind that your pins of the symbol need to end up on a schematic grid point for wire connection to be completed.. Answer: I do not even believe you can adjust the rotation of a symbol in schematic to some angle other than 90 degrees.. Workaround: If you are all fired up to still do it.. you will need to create the symbol at 45 degrees in the library to start with.. just make sure the pins are on an even 100mil grid.. Best wishes.. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Component Rotation
I've already given up, and done it the standard way. I tried drawing it at 45 degrees as a library symbol, but the pins still had to be at 90 degrees. I was just designing a matrix, with about 50 odd diodes, and thought it might be easier to rotate the diodes 90 degrees. -Original Message- From: Samuel Cox "Sam" [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 16:18 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Component Rotation Steve... 1.) the question should be rephrased to "Symbol Rotation".. not "Component Rotation".. 2.) Why would you want to rotate a symbol in Schematic capture to something other than 90 degrees.? This not standard practice. Also, keep in mind that your pins of the symbol need to end up on a schematic grid point for wire connection to be completed.. Answer: I do not even believe you can adjust the rotation of a symbol in schematic to some angle other than 90 degrees.. Workaround: If you are all fired up to still do it.. you will need to create the symbol at 45 degrees in the library to start with.. just make sure the pins are on an even 100mil grid.. Best wishes.. At 05:02 PM 10/24/01 +0200, you wrote: >Steve wrote: > >> > Can anybody answer this quicker than me attempting to find it in help >> > files. >> > >> > I know how to adjust the rotation steps in PCB editor, but how do you >> > adjust in in schematics from 90 degrees to 45 degrees. >> > >> > Steve > >Steve, >As far as I can see, you can only rotate in steps of 90 degrees in >schematics. > >Have a nice day! > >Joop Reekers >Semecs bv, Almelo NL > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Component Rotation
Steve... 1.) the question should be rephrased to "Symbol Rotation".. not "Component Rotation".. 2.) Why would you want to rotate a symbol in Schematic capture to something other than 90 degrees.? This not standard practice. Also, keep in mind that your pins of the symbol need to end up on a schematic grid point for wire connection to be completed.. Answer: I do not even believe you can adjust the rotation of a symbol in schematic to some angle other than 90 degrees.. Workaround: If you are all fired up to still do it.. you will need to create the symbol at 45 degrees in the library to start with.. just make sure the pins are on an even 100mil grid.. Best wishes.. At 05:02 PM 10/24/01 +0200, you wrote: >Steve wrote: > >> > Can anybody answer this quicker than me attempting to find it in help >> > files. >> > >> > I know how to adjust the rotation steps in PCB editor, but how do you >> > adjust in in schematics from 90 degrees to 45 degrees. >> > >> > Steve > >Steve, >As far as I can see, you can only rotate in steps of 90 degrees in >schematics. > >Have a nice day! > >Joop Reekers >Semecs bv, Almelo NL > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Component Rotation
Steve wrote: > > Can anybody answer this quicker than me attempting to find it in help > > files. > > > > I know how to adjust the rotation steps in PCB editor, but how do you > > adjust in in schematics from 90 degrees to 45 degrees. > > > > Steve Steve, As far as I can see, you can only rotate in steps of 90 degrees in schematics. Have a nice day! Joop Reekers Semecs bv, Almelo NL * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
