Re: [PEDA] Specctra 10.2 Interfaces with 99SE
Unless you prefer Real Ale. Joe Sapienza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Protel EDA Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> om> cc: Subject: Re: [PEDA] Specctra 10.2 Interfaces with 99SE 16-Jun-2003 10:53 PM Please respond to Protel EDA Forum After all, no point in giving Cadence money > that could be spent on beer Steve, Not to be a critic but that should have read " No use giving anyone money that could be spent on COLD beer" Joe - Original Message - From: "Steve Wiseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Specctra 10.2 Interfaces with 99SE > 16/06/2003 17:28:22, Shuping Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Thank You, Steve. > > > >Do you mean Protel Router can't complete on Dense Board? > > Yes -my reply to Dennis (who also spotted my mistake...) seems to > have vanished, but here's the outline- > Specctra 10.2 works well, and routes boards to completion that just > cause Protel's autorouter to sit still, doing nothing, or route 10% of the > tracks very badly, then sit still, doing nothing. Very disappointing - and > the DXP router seems to be just as useless on dense boards. (both work > OK on easy boards, but if a board's easy enough that Protel's router can > complete it, my customers want it smaller / cheaper rules / more > functionality / fewer layers (or all of the above)) > > > Specctra gave us a very good price to upgrade from V7.1 to 10.2... > > I'm not sure that 10.2 is a great improvement over 7.1 (or it wasn't > vastly better than 8.x, I just needed some ore layers, which forced the > upgrade) > If you want to send me a .dsn and a .do, I'll throw it at 10.2 and you can > see if it's worth the money. After all, no point in giving Cadence money > that could be spent on beer :) > > Steve > > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Specctra 10.2 Interfaces with 99SE
After all, no point in giving Cadence money > that could be spent on beer Steve, Not to be a critic but that should have read " No use giving anyone money that could be spent on COLD beer" Joe - Original Message - From: "Steve Wiseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Specctra 10.2 Interfaces with 99SE > 16/06/2003 17:28:22, Shuping Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Thank You, Steve. > > > >Do you mean Protel Router can't complete on Dense Board? > > Yes -my reply to Dennis (who also spotted my mistake...) seems to > have vanished, but here's the outline- > Specctra 10.2 works well, and routes boards to completion that just > cause Protel's autorouter to sit still, doing nothing, or route 10% of the > tracks very badly, then sit still, doing nothing. Very disappointing - and > the DXP router seems to be just as useless on dense boards. (both work > OK on easy boards, but if a board's easy enough that Protel's router can > complete it, my customers want it smaller / cheaper rules / more > functionality / fewer layers (or all of the above)) > > > Specctra gave us a very good price to upgrade from V7.1 to 10.2... > > I'm not sure that 10.2 is a great improvement over 7.1 (or it wasn't > vastly better than 8.x, I just needed some ore layers, which forced the > upgrade) > If you want to send me a .dsn and a .do, I'll throw it at 10.2 and you can > see if it's worth the money. After all, no point in giving Cadence money > that could be spent on beer :) > > Steve > > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Specctra 10.2 Interfaces with 99SE
16/06/2003 17:28:22, Shuping Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Thank You, Steve. > >Do you mean Protel Router can't complete on Dense Board? Yes -my reply to Dennis (who also spotted my mistake...) seems to have vanished, but here's the outline- Specctra 10.2 works well, and routes boards to completion that just cause Protel's autorouter to sit still, doing nothing, or route 10% of the tracks very badly, then sit still, doing nothing. Very disappointing - and the DXP router seems to be just as useless on dense boards. (both work OK on easy boards, but if a board's easy enough that Protel's router can complete it, my customers want it smaller / cheaper rules / more functionality / fewer layers (or all of the above)) > Specctra gave us a very good price to upgrade from V7.1 to 10.2... I'm not sure that 10.2 is a great improvement over 7.1 (or it wasn't vastly better than 8.x, I just needed some ore layers, which forced the upgrade) If you want to send me a .dsn and a .do, I'll throw it at 10.2 and you can see if it's worth the money. After all, no point in giving Cadence money that could be spent on beer :) Steve * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Specctra 10.2 Interfaces with 99SE
Thank You, Steve. Do you mean Protel Router can't complete on Dense Board? Specctra gave us a very good price to upgrade from V7.1 to 10.2... Shuping -Original Message- From: Steve Wiseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 3:54 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Specctra 10.2 Interfaces with 99SE 13/06/2003 22:51:09, Shuping Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Have anybody use Protel99SE interfaces with Specctra 10.2? Yes - works fine. (Still the same old via hole size issues). I was forced to give Cadence a pile of money, since Specctra's autorouter still can't compete on dense boards :( Steve Wiseman * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Specctra 10.2 Interfaces with 99SE
is this what you meant to say? ds Steve Wiseman wrote: > > 13/06/2003 22:51:09, Shuping Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Have anybody use Protel99SE interfaces with Specctra 10.2? > > Yes - works fine. (Still the same old via hole size issues). I was forced to > give Cadence a pile of money, since Specctra's autorouter still can't > compete on dense boards :( > > Steve Wiseman > -- Dennis Saputelli = send only plain text please! - no HTML == ___ Integrated Controls, Inc. www.integratedcontrolsinc.com 2851 21st Streettel: 415-647-0480 San Francisco, CA 94110 fax: 415-647-3003 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Specctra 10.2 Interfaces with 99SE
13/06/2003 22:51:09, Shuping Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Have anybody use Protel99SE interfaces with Specctra 10.2? Yes - works fine. (Still the same old via hole size issues). I was forced to give Cadence a pile of money, since Specctra's autorouter still can't compete on dense boards :( Steve Wiseman * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
