[protest-ro] HotNews - Controversa europeana: Avem nevoie de rosiile cu gust de apa?

2008-02-04 Fir de Conversatie ARIN
Practic, si eu umblu (cand am timp si ocazia) prin pietele CELE mai sarace - 
unde mai am sansa uneori sa gasesc cate o babutza sau o tzaranca saraca, cu 
rosii tzaranesti, din acelea nu prea mari, cu seminte si cu aroma 
adevarata, de rosii ;)

Ma simt si bine, de altfel, cumparand de la asemenea persoane, uneori le dau 
chiar mai mult decat cer - si pt. ca asta le ajuta, si pt. a le incuraja sa 
mai cultive astfel de rosii (e valabil, de fapt, si pt. altele ;)

Cam in vara trecuta imi spunea un taximetrist ca baiatul lui are sere - si 
zicea ca are niste substante cu care injecteaza rosiile, pt. ca acestea sa 
capete rosul acela natural, cu toate ca ele sunt cultivate mai mult cu 
ingrasaminte si in conditii mai putin naturale :(

Eu sper sa NU dispara babutzele care au inca rosii tzaranesti - si nici 
semnitele acelor soiuri de rosii ;)

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http://www.hotnews.ro/stiri-opinii-2287953-controversa_europeana_avem_nevoie_rosiile_gust_apa.htm


Acum cateva zile, lucrand la un raport in comisia mea, am remarcat urmatoarea 
fraza: ne exprimam regretul ca Executivul European a ratat ocazia de a rezolva 
problema importurilor de mancare si mancare pentru animale, care nu corespund 
standardelor UE. Aceasta propozitie m-a pus pe ganduri si m-a facut sa ma 
intreb care este standardul UE in agricultura, si daca acest standard serveste 
oare, cu adevarat, interesele consumatorilor.

Prima mea legatura cu protectia mediului s-a produs in copilarie, dar numai 
datorita faptului ca eram un impatimit al desenelor animate, iar singurul post 
de atunci, TVR-ul, transmitea, in fiecare seara, Captain Planet. Probabil ca 
acest erou este deja depasit de eroii din desenele de azi.

Dar, pentru mine, a ramas unul dintre personajele cele mai indragite si imi 
aduc aminte, chiar si acum, multe dintre sfaturile despre protectia mediului 
inconjurator promovate de aceste desene animate. Ca sa-l chemi la viata pe 
eroul principal, era nevoie de cele cinci elemente, care in natura creeaza si 
sting viata: pamantul, apa, focul, cerul si, nu in ultimul rand, dragostea.

Pe de alta parte, imi mai aduc aminte din copilarie, cand, la orele de religie, 
preotul ne spunea o predica despre taranul care, incercand sa aiba o recolta 
bogata, ii cere lui Dumnezeu puterea de a controla vremea. Ca urmare, tot anul 
are ploi abundente, soare din belsug, dar, cand ajunge sa culeaga recolta, 
observa cu surprindere ca spicurile sunt goale. Drept explicatie, 
Atotputernicul ii spune harnicului agricultor ca a uitat vantul, care mangaie 
si polenizeaza spicele. Mai mult, divinitatea il avertizeaza ca oricat de 
simpla pare la prima vedere, natura este un organism complex, imposibil de 
controlat de oameni.

V-am amintit de aceste doua exemple pentru ca, pana acum catva timp, mi se 
parea de-a dreptul inimaginabil sa putem creste plante fara apa, fara pamant, 
fara soare si fara vant. Dar se pare ca am reusit sa inventam chiar si acest 
lucru. Dar oare viata noastra a devenit instantaneu mai usoara si mai roza?. 
Sau suntem martorii unui revers al medaliei?

Am citit acum cateva zile o relatare despre vizita colegului si prietenului meu 
din PE, Peter Olajos, intr-o ferma care respecta standardele UE. Curios fiind, 
Olajos a ales o ferma dintr-o zona cu pamant fertil de secole, care corespunde 
standardelor si rezista competitiei de pe piata europeana. Numai ca amicul meu 
a ramas foarte surprins sa gaseasca o ferma care arata, mai degraba, ca o 
fabrica.

Mai mult, plantele nu intrau in contact nici cu pamantul, nici cu apa, nici cu 
soarele si nici cu vantul. Toata productia se decurgea civilizat si 
controlat. Se poate controla culoarea si forma rosiilor prin calculator, de 
unde poti seta, de altfel, cum sa arate si cat de rezistente sa fie legumele. 
La vanzare, cele mai importante caracteristici, atat pentru producator, dar si 
pentru supermarketul care cumpara, sunt forma, culoarea si lungimea perioadei 
cat planta rezista pe raft, toate celelalte caracteristici fiind secundare.

Sunt un consumator care nu este interesat in mod deosebit de forma, culoarea, 
sau nici macar rezistenta produsului la timp. Ma intereseaza, mai degraba, 
pretul si, in mod special, gustul produsului. Pe langa aceste doua lucruri, 
incerc sa fiu atent ca produsul sa aiba un impact bun asupra sanatatii mele. 
Asa ca, de obicei, incerc sa cumpar produse naturale, chiar daca acest lucru 
devine din ce in ce mai greu de realizat.

Oare viitorul nostru inseamna sa uitam notiunea de natural si sa o inlocuim 
cu cea de bio sau cea de organic? Oare este in beneficiul nostru sa 
acceptam si sa ne obisnuim ca toate produsele sa fie din ce in ce mai 
artificiale, iar cei care cumpara alimente numai din magazinele bio sa fie 
considerati niste ciudati de restul societatii?

Probabil ca aceste intrebari inca par indepartate de noi. Zambim, pentru ca 
stim ca nu avem o agricultura performanta, dar macar e bio si inca se mai 
gasesc pe rafturile magazinelor noastre produse 

[protest-ro] Fw: Condoleezza Rice in London

2008-02-04 Fir de Conversatie Codruta N
Interesant ce gandesc cate unii in UK ;)

Codruta

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From: Stop the War Coalition 


ACTION ALERT: CONDOLEEZZA RICE IN LONDON JOIN THE PROTEST ON WEDNESDAY 6 
FEBRUARY

The Afghanistan war is at last getting mainstream coverage, as the US led 
occupiers are having to admit that the attempts to pacify the country, largely 
by terror bombing raids, are
failing. With defeat looming, as it always has for every attempt in history at 
occupying Afghanistan, George Bush is desperate to get other countries to 
deploy more forces. But instead of responding to his pleas, the coalition 
countries are falling out amongst themselves, with Canada now threatening to 
withdraw all its troops, and others, like Germany, saying they will not send 
troops to South Afghanistan, where much of the fighting is taking place.  (See
http://tinyurl.com/2q24oh)


As Bush tries to stave off disaster in Afghanistan, Condoleezza Rice, the US 
secretary of state, flies to London next week to talk to Gordon Brown -- George 
Bush's closest ally -- to find a way to send more troops to Afghanistan. With 
UK defence minister Des Browne saying recently that Britain could be in 
Afghanistan for decades (http://tinyurl.com/2lhmqj), Rice will try to get 
Gordon Brown to commit more troops now, as a lever to get other countries to 
increase their deployment.

Stop the War Coalition is calling an emergency protest on Wednesday 6 February. 
We do not yet have details of Rice's meetings with Gordon Brown but we 
anticipate that our protest
will be at Downing Street, the timing to be announced as soon as her plans are 
known.

PLEASE WATCH OUT FOR OUR EMAIL GIVING DETAILS OF THE PROTEST AGAINST 
CONDOLEEZZA RICE'S VISIT. WE WILL ALSO POST INFORMATION AS WE GET IT ON OUR 
WEBSITE:
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/


Bush's only aim for both Iraq and Afghanistan has been to keep the wars going 
till the end of his presidency. This aim is unravelling in Afghanistan, which 
is why Condoleezza Rice will be in London next week. But she will also be here 
to discuss Iraq, with the recent bombings in Baghdad giving the lie to US 
claims that the US troop surge is bringing stability to the
country. And Iran will also be on her agenda, with recent statements by George 
Bush showing he is still itching to launch an attack.

We must ensure that Rice is left in no doubt that the majority of the British 
people have consistently opposed George Bush's warmongering. When Rice visited 
the UK in 2006 it turned into a public relations fiasco, as anti-war protestors 
followed her everywhere she went (see http://tinyurl.com/2nj5fb). We aim to do 
the same this time.

CONDOLEEZZA RICE NOT WANTED HERE END THE WARS IN AFGHANISTAN  IRAQ NOW PROTEST 
WEDNESDAY 6 FEBRUARY
(Details of location and time to follow shortly.)
-- 

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ARIN
Al. Cinematografului 2, bl. H3, sc. 2, ap. 27
810271 Braila, tel. 0740.026091

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2008-02-04 Fir de Conversatie Asociatia ARIN
Cica, in baza deciziei Curtii Constitutionale, or sa desfiinteze SI Garda 
Financiara - ca si aia dã verdicte samd... ;)

Eu sper ca totusi nu vor desfiinta si Garda de Mediu (cu toate ca si aia dã 
verdicte) ma rog! ca nu prea are ea co*ie sa aplice amenzi adevarate sau / 
si sa inchida mari poluatori (asa cum ii sta in competente) - dar orisicat, 
macar de vreun amarat care isi arunca chistocul pe strada TOT se mai leaga, din 
cand in cand... :-pp

Nu stiu cum o sa ramana cu Oficiul pentru Protectia Consumatorului (care si ei 
dau verdicte) - sper sa nu-i desfiinteze, ca TOCMAI ce le-am trimis o 
reclamatie - si mai am pt. ei un dosar intreg, referitor la CFR :( :-pp

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[protest-ro] Re: Protest: Condoleezza Rice not welcome here

2008-02-04 Fir de Conversatie Codruta N
Si tot in seria dinainte:

(Asta in contextul in care musafirul nostru de 5 ore (Sarkozy) are tendinte 
puternice de apropiere de USA ;)

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  From: Stop the War Coalition 



  STOP THE WAR COALITION
  4 FEBRUARY 2008
  w: www.stopwar.org.uk
  p: 020 7278 6694
  e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  PROTEST: CONDOLEEZZA RICE NOT WELCOME HERE 
  DOWNING STREET 12 MIDDAY - 3.30PM THIS WEDNESDAY 6 FEBRUARY
   
  Condoleezza Rice is coming to London for a panic summit with the US's number 
one ally in the War on Terror. The reason? Afghanistan is now a disaster as bad 
as Iraq.

  Canada is threatening to pull out of Afghanistan altogether, Germany has 
refused US orders to go south, and the British army is being fought to a 
standstill by the Taliban.
   
  Stop the War is asking for people to come and protest at Downing Street to 
demand
  all the troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan and for an end to the 'special 
relationship'. We have been told Rice will be going to Downing Street between 
12 and 3.30. Please bring banners.

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  ARIN
  Al. Cinematografului 2, bl. H3, sc. 2, ap. 27
  810271 Braila, tel. 0740.026091

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