[Prototype-core] Re: Thoughts about 1.6
I vote an emphatic No - this would be overhead within proto-core, which should remain as _baseline_ as possible (that's my rant and I'm sticking to it - proto is a baseline - don't bloat it... please!). What people need to get in the habit of doing is loading an extensions.js file (or something) after proto (or lib-of-choice)... and do whatever overriding/wrapping there. Your case in point... var oldInsert = Element.insert; Element.insert = function(...) {... fireYourCustomEvent() ... oldInsert(...)}; On 9/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had an interesting thought while testing out version 1.6 RC - I thought I'd solicit some opinions (and possibly make a suggestion). There is not a very reliable cross-browser way to implement the DOM mutation events - (such as DOMNodeInserted, DOMNodeRemoved, DOMAttrModified, etc). However, using custom events, it should be possible to register listeners for equivalents and send those events in prototype calls, such as Element.insert, etc. That would allow for some pretty powerful dynamic things - that can observe DOM change events. 1.6 already spoofs one of those events in the contentloaded event...it would be pretty cool to add a bit more support for others as well... What are peoples' thoughts on this? Or would it better be implemented outside of prototype (I can't think of a way to piggyback on the already-existing functions without writing wrapper functions and extending thingspossible, but it seems a bit cleaner to support it natively within prototype itself. -- Ryan Gahl Manager, Senior Software Engineer Nth Penguin, LLC http://www.nthpenguin.com -- Architect WebWidgetry.com / MashupStudio.com Future Home of the World's First Complete Web Platform -- Inquire: 1-262-951-6727 Blog: http://www.someElement.com LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/ryangahl --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype: Core group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-core@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-core?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Prototype-core] Re: Thoughts about 1.6
On 9/25/07, Ryan Gahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: var oldInsert = Element.insert; Element.insert = function(...) {... fireYourCustomEvent() ... oldInsert(...)}; We hear what you are saying. I don't know all the things Sam had in mind, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't going to slow down Prototype for everyone just for the 5% early adopters who would actually use the mutation events. Sam and Thomas have some tricks up their sleeve regarding future versions of Prototype, script.aculo.us and modularization. Just wait and see ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype: Core group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-core@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-core?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Prototype-core] Re: Thoughts about 1.6
I vote an emphatic No - this would be overhead within proto-core, which should remain as _baseline_ as possible (that's my rant and I'm sticking to it - proto is a baseline - don't bloat it... please!). I see that point - and that was the type of discussion that I wanted to spawn. I agree that the core should not be bloated at all...but exactly *what* should be in core or not? var oldInsert = Element.insert; Element.insert = function(...) {... fireYourCustomEvent() ... oldInsert(...)}; This is actually a pretty easy way to do that. I don't have a problem at all implementing this sort of thing outside of the prototype core. I was just originally thinking that it would help to move Prototype more towards its goal of creating a level-playing field of sorts - a core library that irons out all the little cross-browser quirks that exist (and mutation events are one of those...that was my original thinking). Thanks for the comments! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype: Core group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-core@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-core?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Prototype-core] Re: Thoughts about 1.6
var oldInsert = Element.insert; Element.insert = function(...) {... fireYourCustomEvent() ... oldInsert(...)}; Just for reference, the way that I got this to work in Prototype 1.6 was (hopefully this accounts for all cases): var prev = {}; [insert,remove,replace,update,wrap].each(function(s){prev[s] = Element[s]}); var add = { insert: function(){ var args = $A(arguments), element = $(args.shift()), insertions = args[0], fireEs = []; if (Object.isString(insertions) || Object.isNumber(insertions) || Object.isElement(insertions) || (insertions (insertions.toElement || insertions.toHTML))) insertions = {bottom:insertions}; for (position in insertions) { position = position.toLowerCase(); if (position == before || position == after) { fireEs.push($(element.parentNode)); } else { fireEs.push(element); } } var retVal = prev.insert(element, args); fireEs.each(function(e){ fireE.fire(nodeadded); fireE.fire(domchanged); }); }, remove: function(){ var args = $A(arguments), element = $(args.shift()), fireE = $ (element.parentNode); var retVal = prev.remove(element, args); fireE.fire(noderemoved); fireE.fire(domchanged); return retVal; }, replace: function(){ var args = $A(arguments), element = $(args.shift()), fireE = $ (element.parentNode); var retVal = prev.replace(element, args); fireE.fire(noderemoved); fireE.fire(nodeadded); fireE.fire(domchanged); return retVal; }, update: function(){ var args = $A(arguments), element = $(args.shift()); var retVal = prev.update(element, args); element.fire(domchanged); return retVal; }, wrap: function(){ var args = $A(arguments), element = $(args.shift()), fireE = $ (element.parentNode); var retVal = prev.wrap(element, args); fireE.fire(nodeadded); fireE.fire(domchanged); return retVal; } } Element.addMethods(add); --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype: Core group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-core@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-core?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Prototype-core] Re: Thoughts about 1.6
No one probably cares but me about this - but there were a few issues with the previous code...here is some that works, and is suitable for placing in an extension.js file: var prev = {}; [insert,remove,replace,update,wrap].each(function(s){prev[s] = Element[s]}); var add = { insert: function(element, insertions){ var fireEs = []; if (Object.isString(insertions) || Object.isNumber(insertions) || Object.isElement(insertions) || (insertions (insertions.toElement || insertions.toHTML))) insertions = {bottom:insertions}; for (position in insertions) { position = position.toLowerCase(); if (position == before || position == after) { fireEs.push($(element.parentNode)); } else { fireEs.push(element); } } var retVal = prev.insert(element, insertions); fireEs.each(function(e){ e.fire(nodeadded); e.fire(domchanged); }); return retVal; }, remove: function(element){ var fireE = $(element.parentNode), retVal = prev.remove(element); fireE.fire(noderemoved); fireE.fire(domchanged); return retVal; }, replace: function(element, content){ var fireE = $(element.parentNode), retVal = prev.replace(element, content); fireE.fire(noderemoved); fireE.fire(nodeadded); fireE.fire(domchanged); return retVal; }, update: function(element, content){ var retVal = prev.update(element, content); element.fire(domchanged); return retVal; }, wrap: function(element, wrapper, attributes){ var fireE = $(element.parentNode); var retVal = prev.wrap(element, wrapper, attributes); fireE.fire(nodeadded); fireE.fire(domchanged); return retVal; } } Element.addMethods(add); --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype: Core group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-core@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-core?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---