[Proto-Scripty] Re: Newbee question : Compatibility with javascript 1.5

2009-07-31 Thread Christophe Decaux
That's right, it's device app dev.
The device is a Cisco DMP 4300 series
Does anyone knows what are the minimum browser requirements to run  
Prototype and Scriptaculous
Christophe

Le 30 juil. 09 à 22:40, Rick Waldron a écrit :

 That sounds like fun... i like device app development. Can you tell  
 us what device you're working with? That will be helpful

 Rick

 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Christophe christophe.dec...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

 Hi there,

 Apologies to everybody if my question is offending in any way, but
 this is my first post to such a group.

 I'm a occasional user of Prototype and Scriptaculous and pretty happy
 with these tools.

 However, I'm facing an issue for which I can find any answer around:

 I created some pages that work pretty well on modern browsers such as
 FF 3 or 3.5 and Safari 3 or 4, but I'm asked to make them run on some
 special Internet devices that run only Mozilla Firefox 1.7 with
 Javascript 1.5

 So my question is : what are the requirements of Prototype 1.6 and
 Scriptaculous 1.8, will my pages run well on such an old browser.
 If not, is there an older version of Prototype and/or Scriptaculous
 that will answer my problem.

 Thanks in advance

 Christophe




 


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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Newbee question : Compatibility with javascript 1.5

2009-07-31 Thread T.J. Crowder

Hi,

There are the documented supported browsers:
http://prototypejs.org/download

Using Prototype  script.aculo.us in earlier browsers will not be
_supported_, but whether it'll work is more a fuzzy gray than black
or white -- e.g., it will vary dramatically by feature.  I expect that
the $() function will work on quite a few older browsers, whereas I'd
be surprised if Element#getDimensions and some of the niftier things
script.aculo.us does with computed styles were reliable.

In terms of *language* features, I think you're pretty safe.
Prototype uses Function#apply, Function#call, the arguments array, and
the special behavior of the || (OR) operator, all of which were added
after the first couple of releases of the language, but it was a
looong time ago.  In fact, just looked it up[1], and if Wikipedia is
correct we're talking 1998 or earlier for all of those.

Prototype may (or may not) use some of the new array features from
JavaScript 1.6 (~2005), but I suspect not (at least not 1.6.0.3) or
that it has emulations of them it'll use if they're not there.  If
there are any missing, though, it's easy enough to add emulations to
the array prototype, and in any case a quick scan through the source
for the new methods will tell you.

In terms of Ajax features, if you're talking Mozilla 1.7, that would
be well after Gecko had XmlHttpRequest.  Can't guarantee there won't
be niggles, but...

Bottom line is that it's unlikely to just work, but I suspect most
of what you'll hit will be manageable.  The joy is you have the
source, and the license is not forbidding.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript#Versions

Good luck,
--
T.J. Crowder
tj / crowder software / com
Independent Software Engineer, consulting services available


On Jul 31, 9:09 am, Christophe Decaux christophe.dec...@gmail.com
wrote:
 That's right, it's device app dev.
 The device is a Cisco DMP 4300 series
 Does anyone knows what are the minimum browser requirements to run  
 Prototype and Scriptaculous
 Christophe

 Le 30 juil. 09 à 22:40, Rick Waldron a écrit :



  That sounds like fun... i like device app development. Can you tell  
  us what device you're working with? That will be helpful

  Rick

  On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Christophe christophe.dec...@gmail.com
   wrote:

  Hi there,

  Apologies to everybody if my question is offending in any way, but
  this is my first post to such a group.

  I'm a occasional user of Prototype and Scriptaculous and pretty happy
  with these tools.

  However, I'm facing an issue for which I can find any answer around:

  I created some pages that work pretty well on modern browsers such as
  FF 3 or 3.5 and Safari 3 or 4, but I'm asked to make them run on some
  special Internet devices that run only Mozilla Firefox 1.7 with
  Javascript 1.5

  So my question is : what are the requirements of Prototype 1.6 and
  Scriptaculous 1.8, will my pages run well on such an old browser.
  If not, is there an older version of Prototype and/or Scriptaculous
  that will answer my problem.

  Thanks in advance

  Christophe
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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Newbee question : Compatibility with javascript 1.5

2009-07-31 Thread Christophe Decaux

TJ,
Thanks for spending time to compile all this stuff.
Looking forward to enjoy working with old browsers ;-) Just to realize  
how much time flies.
Christophe

Le 31 juil. 09 à 14:16, T.J. Crowder a écrit :


 Hi,

 There are the documented supported browsers:
 http://prototypejs.org/download

 Using Prototype  script.aculo.us in earlier browsers will not be
 _supported_, but whether it'll work is more a fuzzy gray than black
 or white -- e.g., it will vary dramatically by feature.  I expect that
 the $() function will work on quite a few older browsers, whereas I'd
 be surprised if Element#getDimensions and some of the niftier things
 script.aculo.us does with computed styles were reliable.

 In terms of *language* features, I think you're pretty safe.
 Prototype uses Function#apply, Function#call, the arguments array, and
 the special behavior of the || (OR) operator, all of which were added
 after the first couple of releases of the language, but it was a
 looong time ago.  In fact, just looked it up[1], and if Wikipedia is
 correct we're talking 1998 or earlier for all of those.

 Prototype may (or may not) use some of the new array features from
 JavaScript 1.6 (~2005), but I suspect not (at least not 1.6.0.3) or
 that it has emulations of them it'll use if they're not there.  If
 there are any missing, though, it's easy enough to add emulations to
 the array prototype, and in any case a quick scan through the source
 for the new methods will tell you.

 In terms of Ajax features, if you're talking Mozilla 1.7, that would
 be well after Gecko had XmlHttpRequest.  Can't guarantee there won't
 be niggles, but...

 Bottom line is that it's unlikely to just work, but I suspect most
 of what you'll hit will be manageable.  The joy is you have the
 source, and the license is not forbidding.

 [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript#Versions

 Good luck,
 --
 T.J. Crowder
 tj / crowder software / com
 Independent Software Engineer, consulting services available


 On Jul 31, 9:09 am, Christophe Decaux christophe.dec...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 That's right, it's device app dev.
 The device is a Cisco DMP 4300 series
 Does anyone knows what are the minimum browser requirements to run
 Prototype and Scriptaculous
 Christophe

 Le 30 juil. 09 à 22:40, Rick Waldron a écrit :



 That sounds like fun... i like device app development. Can you tell
 us what device you're working with? That will be helpful

 Rick

 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Christophe  
 christophe.dec...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi there,

 Apologies to everybody if my question is offending in any way, but
 this is my first post to such a group.

 I'm a occasional user of Prototype and Scriptaculous and pretty  
 happy
 with these tools.

 However, I'm facing an issue for which I can find any answer around:

 I created some pages that work pretty well on modern browsers such  
 as
 FF 3 or 3.5 and Safari 3 or 4, but I'm asked to make them run on  
 some
 special Internet devices that run only Mozilla Firefox 1.7 with
 Javascript 1.5

 So my question is : what are the requirements of Prototype 1.6 and
 Scriptaculous 1.8, will my pages run well on such an old browser.
 If not, is there an older version of Prototype and/or Scriptaculous
 that will answer my problem.

 Thanks in advance

 Christophe
 


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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Newbee question : Compatibility with javascript 1.5

2009-07-30 Thread Rick Waldron
That sounds like fun... i like device app development. Can you tell us what
device you're working with? That will be helpful

Rick

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Christophe christophe.dec...@gmail.comwrote:


 Hi there,

 Apologies to everybody if my question is offending in any way, but
 this is my first post to such a group.

 I'm a occasional user of Prototype and Scriptaculous and pretty happy
 with these tools.

 However, I'm facing an issue for which I can find any answer around:

 I created some pages that work pretty well on modern browsers such as
 FF 3 or 3.5 and Safari 3 or 4, but I'm asked to make them run on some
 special Internet devices that run only Mozilla Firefox 1.7 with
 Javascript 1.5

 So my question is : what are the requirements of Prototype 1.6 and
 Scriptaculous 1.8, will my pages run well on such an old browser.
 If not, is there an older version of Prototype and/or Scriptaculous
 that will answer my problem.

 Thanks in advance

 Christophe

 


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