[Proto-Scripty] Re: PDoc documentation modification

2009-11-20 Thread T.J. Crowder
Hi,

Sorry to hear about your bad experience. I didn't even know about your
submitting the patch (but then, I'm not Core). As a Prototype user, I
thank you for trying and hope you'll try again.

We're trying to bring the docs up to the old standard, and beyond; in
fact, I just posted a thread[1] about this. I was trying to do it on
my own, having foolishly thought it would be a few hours of work.
20+ hours of work later (fighting with tool issues most of the way)
I'd made a dent, but still had a massive distance to go, and frankly I
just ran out of time -- work that pays the mortgage took precedence. :-
(

So a few days ago I created a bunch of bite-sized doc tickets[2] in
Lighthouse so that we can throw this open to everyone without
duplication of effort (your array stuff may well have duplicated my
array work, for instance). More in that thread[1], but basically,
Tobie wrote a tool to extract the old docs from the old CMS and
reformat them a bit into mostly-PDoc format. So each of those bite-
sized tickets has the unedited auto-converted PDoc, and just needs
intelligent merging into the source and updating.

Once someone can successfully build the docs locally, each ticket is
designed to be about 15-30 minutes of work. There are 72 of them. Mike
Rumble has been chipping away at them, but he needs help.

[1] 
http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous/browse_thread/thread/5a03323af91f531b
[2] 
https://prototype.lighthouseapp.com/projects/8886-prototype/tickets?q=merge+old+docs+state:open+state:newfilter=

Thanks again,
--
T.J. Crowder
Independent Software Consultant
tj / crowder software / com
www.crowdersoftware.com

On Nov 19, 4:24 pm, Bertrand bertrand.char...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I was not too happy about the fact that the new version of the
 documentation wasn't on par with the old one in terms of examples and
 coverage. So I dove into github and began tackling the issue (the docs
 are open source after all).
 I wanted to send a tiny modification at first and my goal was to add
 more modifications once the first pull request for the docs would get
 approval. I then proceeded to enrich the docs for src/lang/array.js
 (more to give the whole process a shot and see if I was doing things
 properly). It's been around two weeks and still no feedback on it.
 I was initially enthusiast about it all and really willing to get out
 of my usual consumer way to become a proactive contributor.

 With the severe lag in the answer from the devs, I have to admit to I
 am a tad discouraged now. The new doc system was supposed to make it
 easier for people to contribute, to surf on the community effort and
 make the whole Prototype ecosystem kick ass. If it takes weeks for
 someone to get something upstream, we're failing doing just that.

 Now I am not naive either, I know you guys are busy with new features,
 working very hard on your spare time to keep the library on the front
 line at a time where jQuery is getting the best press and where Google
 is delivering in the JS library department, but aren't we all?
 Prototype users willing to give a hand have jobs too, they have
 families, they're not familiar with the whole shebang and yet they're
 trying. So please make it easy for them to help with the more tedious
 tasks so that you guys can concentrate on what you've been excellent
 at for a few years now: making Prototype the best JS library around.

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: PDoc documentation modification

2009-11-19 Thread Tobie Langel
Hi.

I understand your frustration.

TJ who was handling the doc up until now has very recently resigned.

We haven't found anyone to replace him in this role yet.

Until then, you might see some fluctuations in how fast these changes
are pulled upstream.

Would you mind posting a link to these changes so I can look at them
in the meantime?

Best,

Tobie

On Nov 19, 5:24 pm, Bertrand bertrand.char...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I was not too happy about the fact that the new version of the
 documentation wasn't on par with the old one in terms of examples and
 coverage. So I dove into github and began tackling the issue (the docs
 are open source after all).
 I wanted to send a tiny modification at first and my goal was to add
 more modifications once the first pull request for the docs would get
 approval. I then proceeded to enrich the docs for src/lang/array.js
 (more to give the whole process a shot and see if I was doing things
 properly). It's been around two weeks and still no feedback on it.
 I was initially enthusiast about it all and really willing to get out
 of my usual consumer way to become a proactive contributor.

 With the severe lag in the answer from the devs, I have to admit to I
 am a tad discouraged now. The new doc system was supposed to make it
 easier for people to contribute, to surf on the community effort and
 make the whole Prototype ecosystem kick ass. If it takes weeks for
 someone to get something upstream, we're failing doing just that.

 Now I am not naive either, I know you guys are busy with new features,
 working very hard on your spare time to keep the library on the front
 line at a time where jQuery is getting the best press and where Google
 is delivering in the JS library department, but aren't we all?
 Prototype users willing to give a hand have jobs too, they have
 families, they're not familiar with the whole shebang and yet they're
 trying. So please make it easy for them to help with the more tedious
 tasks so that you guys can concentrate on what you've been excellent
 at for a few years now: making Prototype the best JS library around.

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