Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: document.observe and Sorter in scrolling li sts

[Niko Schwarz]

Alright, if it makes you any happier:




http://www.google.com/jsapi";>

 google.load("prototype", "1.6.1.0");
 google.load("scriptaculous", "1.8.3");

 document.observe("dom:loaded", function() {
   Sortable.create('fruit', {
  "scroll": "container"
  });});



Test



  Apple
  Banana
  Peach
  Strawberry
  Cherry
  Pear
  Orange
  Mango





So, what should I do?
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Niko Schwarz
 wrote:
> That is, the tags are, the elements are not. A  can only appear
> in a head, that's why my document clearly has a head element – I don't
> need to spell out the tag for that. And the head ends, and body
> begins, with the first element that can only be found in body.
>
> For example, validate this: http://snipt.net/nes1983/minimal-valid-html5/
>
> In a HTML5 validator: http://html5.validator.nu/
>
> It's valid. It saves space, no amount of confusion is caused by
> dropping these tags, so I would argue that it's good practice, when
> handcoding html, to drop the irrelevant things.
>
> I just validated the snipped I'd sent, and I learned that I forgot
> closing a div at the end of the snippet, otherwise it is valid. Here's
> the snippet with the closing div, passes through an html5 validator:
>
> 
> 
> http://www.google.com/jsapi";>
> 
>  google.load("prototype", "1.6.1.0");
>  google.load("scriptaculous", "1.8.3");
>
>  document.observe("dom:loaded", function() {
>    Sortable.create('fruit', {
>   "scroll": "container"
>   });});
>
> 
>
> Test
> 
> 
>   Apple
>   Banana
>   Peach
>   Strawberry
>   Cherry
>   Pear
>   Orange
>   Mango
> 
> 
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Niko
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Niko Schwarz
>  wrote:
>> I don't think so. head and body are both optional:
>>
>> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#optional-tags
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Rick Waldron  wrote:
>>> Missing:
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> If found, please return.
>>>
>>> -- Sent from my Palm Prē
>>> 
>>> Niko Schwarz wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't know why, but somehow this snippet executes document.observe
>>> fine. I just open another script tag and suddenly the world is good.
>>>
>>> But the issue with the scrolling drag and drop remains. This code
>>> snippet should be executable in a browser as is, from a file (I can
>>> attach it as a file if that's easier, or host it on a website):
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.google.com/jsapi";>
>>> 
>>> google.load("prototype", "1.6.1.0");
>>> google.load("scriptaculous", "1.8.3");
>>> 
>>> 
>>> document.observe('dom:loaded',function() {
>>> Sortable.create('fruit', {
>>> "scroll": "container"
>>> });
>>> });
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Test
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Apple
>>> Banana
>>> Peach
>>> Strawberry
>>> Cherry
>>> Pear
>>> Orange
>>> Mango
>>> 
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Niko
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Niko Schwarz
>>>  wrote:
 Hi, I have this tiny script, and it fails in two ways. First, the
 document observe thing fails really strangely, saying:

 TypeError: Result of expression 'document.observe' [undefined] is not
 a function.

 The second error, after I create the sorter on the command line: You
 cannot drag and drop the lower elements of the list.

 Here's the script:

 
 
 http://www.google.com/jsapi";>
 
   google.load("prototype", "1.6.1.0");
   google.load("scriptaculous", "1.8.3");

   document.observe("dom:loaded", function() {
     Sortable.create('fruit', {
    "scroll": "container"
    });});

 

 Test
 
 
    Apple
    Banana
    Peach
    Strawberry
    Cherry
    Pear
    Orange
    Mango
 


 So, what is your take?


 Cheers,

 Niko


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 twitter.com/nes1983
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Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: document.observe and Sorter in scrolling li sts

[Niko Schwarz]

That is, the tags are, the elements are not. A  can only appear
in a head, that's why my document clearly has a head element – I don't
need to spell out the tag for that. And the head ends, and body
begins, with the first element that can only be found in body.

For example, validate this: http://snipt.net/nes1983/minimal-valid-html5/

In a HTML5 validator: http://html5.validator.nu/

It's valid. It saves space, no amount of confusion is caused by
dropping these tags, so I would argue that it's good practice, when
handcoding html, to drop the irrelevant things.

I just validated the snipped I'd sent, and I learned that I forgot
closing a div at the end of the snippet, otherwise it is valid. Here's
the snippet with the closing div, passes through an html5 validator:



http://www.google.com/jsapi";>

  google.load("prototype", "1.6.1.0");
  google.load("scriptaculous", "1.8.3");

  document.observe("dom:loaded", function() {
Sortable.create('fruit', {
   "scroll": "container"
   });});



Test


   Apple
   Banana
   Peach
   Strawberry
   Cherry
   Pear
   Orange
   Mango





Cheers,

Niko

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Niko Schwarz
 wrote:
> I don't think so. head and body are both optional:
>
> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#optional-tags
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Rick Waldron  wrote:
>> Missing:
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> If found, please return.
>>
>> -- Sent from my Palm Prē
>> 
>> Niko Schwarz wrote:
>>
>> I don't know why, but somehow this snippet executes document.observe
>> fine. I just open another script tag and suddenly the world is good.
>>
>> But the issue with the scrolling drag and drop remains. This code
>> snippet should be executable in a browser as is, from a file (I can
>> attach it as a file if that's easier, or host it on a website):
>>
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.google.com/jsapi";>
>> 
>> google.load("prototype", "1.6.1.0");
>> google.load("scriptaculous", "1.8.3");
>> 
>> 
>> document.observe('dom:loaded',function() {
>> Sortable.create('fruit', {
>> "scroll": "container"
>> });
>> });
>>
>> 
>>
>> Test
>> 
>> 
>> Apple
>> Banana
>> Peach
>> Strawberry
>> Cherry
>> Pear
>> Orange
>> Mango
>> 
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Niko
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Niko Schwarz
>>  wrote:
>>> Hi, I have this tiny script, and it fails in two ways. First, the
>>> document observe thing fails really strangely, saying:
>>>
>>> TypeError: Result of expression 'document.observe' [undefined] is not
>>> a function.
>>>
>>> The second error, after I create the sorter on the command line: You
>>> cannot drag and drop the lower elements of the list.
>>>
>>> Here's the script:
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.google.com/jsapi";>
>>> 
>>>   google.load("prototype", "1.6.1.0");
>>>   google.load("scriptaculous", "1.8.3");
>>>
>>>   document.observe("dom:loaded", function() {
>>>     Sortable.create('fruit', {
>>>    "scroll": "container"
>>>    });});
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Test
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    Apple
>>>    Banana
>>>    Peach
>>>    Strawberry
>>>    Cherry
>>>    Pear
>>>    Orange
>>>    Mango
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> So, what is your take?
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Niko
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz
>>> twitter.com/nes1983
>>> Tel: +41 076 235 8683
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: document.observe and Sorter in scrolling li sts

[Niko Schwarz]

I don't think so. head and body are both optional:

http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#optional-tags

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Rick Waldron  wrote:
> Missing:
>
> 
> 
>
> If found, please return.
>
> -- Sent from my Palm Prē
> 
> Niko Schwarz wrote:
>
> I don't know why, but somehow this snippet executes document.observe
> fine. I just open another script tag and suddenly the world is good.
>
> But the issue with the scrolling drag and drop remains. This code
> snippet should be executable in a browser as is, from a file (I can
> attach it as a file if that's easier, or host it on a website):
>
> 
> 
> http://www.google.com/jsapi";>
> 
> google.load("prototype", "1.6.1.0");
> google.load("scriptaculous", "1.8.3");
> 
> 
> document.observe('dom:loaded',function() {
> Sortable.create('fruit', {
> "scroll": "container"
> });
> });
>
> 
>
> Test
> 
> 
> Apple
> Banana
> Peach
> Strawberry
> Cherry
> Pear
> Orange
> Mango
> 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Niko
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Niko Schwarz
>  wrote:
>> Hi, I have this tiny script, and it fails in two ways. First, the
>> document observe thing fails really strangely, saying:
>>
>> TypeError: Result of expression 'document.observe' [undefined] is not
>> a function.
>>
>> The second error, after I create the sorter on the command line: You
>> cannot drag and drop the lower elements of the list.
>>
>> Here's the script:
>>
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.google.com/jsapi";>
>> 
>>   google.load("prototype", "1.6.1.0");
>>   google.load("scriptaculous", "1.8.3");
>>
>>   document.observe("dom:loaded", function() {
>>     Sortable.create('fruit', {
>>    "scroll": "container"
>>    });});
>>
>> 
>>
>> Test
>> 
>> 
>>    Apple
>>    Banana
>>    Peach
>>    Strawberry
>>    Cherry
>>    Pear
>>    Orange
>>    Mango
>> 
>>
>>
>> So, what is your take?
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Niko
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz
>> twitter.com/nes1983
>> Tel: +41 076 235 8683
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: document.observe and Sorter in scrolling li sts

[Rick Waldron]

Missing:




If found, please return.

-- Sent from my Palm Prē
Niko Schwarz wrote:

I don't know why, but somehow this snippet executes document.observe

fine. I just open another script tag and suddenly the world is good.



But the issue with the scrolling drag and drop remains. This code

snippet should be executable in a browser as is, from a file (I can

attach it as a file if that's easier, or host it on a website):





















Apple

Banana

Peach

Strawberry

Cherry

Pear

Orange

Mango





Cheers,



Niko



On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Niko Schwarz

 wrote:

> Hi, I have this tiny script, and it fails in two ways. First, the

> document observe thing fails really strangely, saying:

>

> TypeError: Result of expression 'document.observe' [undefined] is not

> a function.

>

> The second error, after I create the sorter on the command line: You

> cannot drag and drop the lower elements of the list.

>

> Here's the script:

>

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

> 

> 


> 


>    
Apple

>    
Banana

>    
Peach

>    
Strawberry

>    
Cherry

>    
Pear

>    
Orange

>    
Mango

> 

>

>

> So, what is your take?

>

>

> Cheers,

>

> Niko

>

>

> --

> http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz

> twitter.com/nes1983

> Tel: +41 076 235 8683

>







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