Re: Making Kontakt somewhat usable in Pro Tools.

[Chi Kim]

Hi Kevin,

I just started this on Logic a few days ago.
Using Keyboard Maestro, I have mapped load, add library, and resolve 
missing samples mapped so far.
Fortunately, when you click those buttons, it opens the generic finder 
open dialog at least in Logic.

I haven't confirmed in PT yet.

Chi

On 1/17/2016 11:06 AM, Kevin Reeves wrote:

Ok. I'll make a note of that when I start working with this.

Thanks.

Kevin

On 1/17/2016 10:50 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote:

dear Kevin.
The delete instrument function would be very important as well. Each 
time you load a new instrument, it will load in a subsequent channel, 
and not araise the current channel. So if you want to try different 
sounds on Channel one, you need to delete what ever is loaded in 
there first.

Hope keyboard Maestro will work, I'm concerned as well smile.
Best,
JPR

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Le 17/01/2016 16:26, Kevin Reeves a écrit :

Hey folks.

I'm a huge fan of Kontakt libraries, as they offer the greatest 
realism in sampled and modeled instruments.
However, the Kontakt player is incredibly inaccessible. I've 
wondered if there was a way to use Keyboard Maestro to click 
coordinates on the screen, much like Hotspot Clicker or Auto Hotkey 
on windows.


The topic of using Kontakt came up on the logic list. I responded 
with some ideas, which I'm posting below, as I feel it is absolutely 
relevant to the Pro Tools platform as well.


Begin Post.

I think that Kontakt could potentially be made somewhat usable in 
both logic and Pro Tools using Keyboard Maestro.
We need to do some experiments to see what variables prevent the 
mouse from clicking the correct coordinates.
The 4 main buttons that need to be mapped to key presses are as 
follows.


1. Load
2. Add to library
3. reset multi
4. close browse window, (for samples missing dialog.)
There are other important buttons in the window, but these are the 4 
most important.



There are some variables that would prevent proper coordinate 
clicking for the above mentioned buttons.
This would include window size and position, the presence of 
floating windows, screen resolution, and other things that I haven't 
yet considered.
Also, it would be interesting to see if there are challenges which 
are program dependent between logic and Pro Tools.


I just downloaded a keyboard maestro demo, and need to figure out 
how to bind a key command to a coordinate click.
Once I do that, I will get someone to assist me in starting this 
process.


If anyone has any other insights into this, I'm all ears. I'd love 
to get Kontakt working on the mac platform for us.


Kevin







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Re: Comping issue seems to be resolved

[Chad Morrison]

I find that I Also have to do this deselect and reselect after importing audio 
in to my project as well.
On Jan 17, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

> Kevin might can explain better than I could what was going on, as we worked 
> together and figured things out.  Thank you again, by the way for that.
>  
> Basically, just to recap, I was having issues where I tried selecting audio, 
> then copying it to the clipboard for pasting to another playlist on the same 
> track.  Essentially, I was trying to comp together a vocal track.
>  
> The problem was that when I'd move to my final master playlist and would try 
> pasting the audio I'd just copied, nothing was happening.  I'd confirmed that 
> in the track list table, my vocal audio track was selected, and it was.  Also 
> in the edit window, I confirmed my selecter tool was selected, and it was.  I 
> wasn't apparently doing a single thing wrong.  It just wasn't working.
>  
> Turns out, why the heck I didn't think to do this is beyond me, but Kevin 
> suggested that I deselect the track in the track list table by interacting 
> with the track list table, finding the track, then vo+spacing on it to 
> deselect, then select a different track, deselect that other track, then go 
> back again and reselect the vocal track.  Then!  Try copying, and finally 
> pasting in that other playlist.  What can I say.  Kevin? You've done it 
> again!  Amazing!  that worked!  Apparently, even though the vocal track was 
> selected in the track list table, for some really really weird reason, the 
> audio itself wasn't getting selected, so no audio was in escence, being 
> copied to the clipboard to start with.  I thought this was a Voiceover 
> problem, but apparently, Kevin said it's not  so.  I'm still slightly 
> confused then what on earth caused this.  He tried explaining, and I kind of 
> get it, but not really.
>  
> Anyway, my point is, if you find that you're having issues with editting 
> tracks, take his suggestion.  deselect and reselect the tracks, then do your 
> edit, and see if that helps.  You just might be very surprised.
>  
> Chris.
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Re: Comping issue seems to be resolved

[Chad Morrison]

I have also found that if one moves to a unselected track and VO, shift m on 
said track the track will be selected and all others will be unselected.  Of 
corse you have to press the escape key in order to leave the menu if you are 
not needing to rename, delete etc.
Thanks Slau   
jan 17, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:

> Eliminating variables is good practice when troubleshooting issues with any 
> situation. One overarching truth when editing in Pro Tools is that the way we 
> edit anything as VoiceOver users is through the edit insertion point and 
> keyboard shortcuts. Hiding all other tracks when editing is certainly not 
> necessary but, if one is having any issues, it's not a bad idea to isolate 
> things, hide all tracks and show only the track you're working on. Make sure 
> it's the only track that's selected. Be aware that, in a large session, you 
> might have your track selected and, even though it doesn't immediately appear 
> so, there may be a track all the way down the list, perhaps track 29 or 30, 
> that could be selected. You want to make sure that's not the case. One global 
> shortcut that's right at the beginning of the shortcuts pdf is one that many 
> users simply overlook and yet it's one of the most powerful shortcuts and 
> that is the Option-click. This will change the state of a control and toggle 
> all other similar tracks to the same state. So, if you want to ensure that no 
> other tracks are selected without even having to check, move to any selected 
> track in the table and Option-click the track name (not the show/hide 
> status). The track will become deselected. Then just click once on the track 
> name again, without the Option key this time, and it'll be the only track 
> selected. If you want to verify that your process is working, move to an 
> unselected track and Option-click it. Now you should see all of the tracks 
> selected. Option-click again and you'll see that all of the tracks are 
> deselected. Keeping this global shortcut in mind will help in situations 
> where you need to be absolutely sure that no tracks are muted. Move to a mute 
> button and Option-click it twice. the first time will mute all tracks, the 
> second time will unmute all tracks.
> HTH,
> Slau
> 
> On Jan 17, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Oh wow!  I'd totally forgotten about ctrl+P and semicolon.  Ever since V11, 
>> where you could toggle tracks on and off of being selected with VO+Space, I 
>> guess I kind a just got in the habbit of throwing those commands out the 
>> window.  Probably not a smart move on my part, huh.
>>  
>> Chris.
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Slau Halatyn
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 12:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: Comping issue seems to be resolved
>> 
>> Another solution, in this case, is to scrub or shuttle within the track once 
>> to establish an insertion cursor. Your edits are guaranteed to work if 
>> there's an insertion within the track. Having Track Selection follow Edit 
>> Selection doesn't guarantee the creation or movement of an insertion point, 
>> although it generally works. Hearing is believing. Scrub or shuttle, hear 
>> the audio and you can cut and paste all you want. If you're copying to 
>> another track, use control-semicolon or control-p to move that insertion 
>> point to the adjacent track.
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Jan 17, 2016, at 11:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Kevin might can explain better than I could what was going on, as we worked 
>>> together and figured things out.  Thank you again, by the way for that.
>>>  
>>> Basically, just to recap, I was having issues where I tried selecting 
>>> audio, then copying it to the clipboard for pasting to another playlist on 
>>> the same track.  Essentially, I was trying to comp together a vocal track.
>>>  
>>> The problem was that when I'd move to my final master playlist and would 
>>> try pasting the audio I'd just copied, nothing was happening.  I'd 
>>> confirmed that in the track list table, my vocal audio track was selected, 
>>> and it was.  Also in the edit window, I confirmed my selecter tool was 
>>> selected, and it was.  I wasn't apparently doing a single thing wrong.  It 
>>> just wasn't working.
>>>  
>>> Turns out, why the heck I didn't think to do this is beyond me, but Kevin 
>>> suggested that I deselect the track in the track list table by interacting 
>>> with the track list table, finding the track, then vo+spacing on it to 
>>> deselect, then select a different track, deselect that other track, then go 
>>> back again and reselect the vocal track.  Then!  Try copying, and finally 
>>> pasting in that other playlist.  What can I say.  Kevin? You've done it 
>>> again!  Amazing!  that worked!  Apparently, even though the vocal track was 
>>> selected in the track list table, for some really 

Re: Comping issue seems to be resolved

[Chris Smart]

Hey Chris, ever heard the expression "pot calling the kettle black"?

Whatever man. Go back to your praise and worship music.

At 03:53 PM 1/17/2016, you wrote:
Maybe because I am unsure how to find the thread in the archive 
after deleting the thread in my e-mail client?  Maybe, just! Maybe! that's why?


Perhaps instead of you being such an immature jerk about it, you 
could try educating me on how to do this so that I don't ruffle your 
so tenderly fragile feathers going forward? Hmm? hmm?


If I knew how to find the same thread, and then post directly to it, 
I would do so going forward.


Now!  Does anyone care to help me maybe off list with the steps to 
locate a particular thread, without throwing a 2 year old tempor 
tantom in the process?


clgillan...@gmail.com

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Nickus de Vos" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Comping issue seems to be resolved


Chris, why do you always start a second and even third or fourth 
new thread on a specific topic when all actually belongs or could 
have been posted under the same thread?
This makes searching the archives for old posts a nightmare and to 
be frank, it's very annoying.


Sent from my iPhone

On 17 Jan 2016, at 21:00, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


That makes sense.  I'm just glad to know I am actually not crazy.  LOL!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Kevin Reeves" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: Comping issue seems to be resolved



Let me explain why this selection toggle issue happens.

When  someone makes edits using the mouse, they are clicking into 
the waveform of a track, therefore placing an insertion point there.


Since we are not using the mouse, we rely on the keyboard to make 
track selections, that's why we need the Track and edit 
selections options checked.


However, sometimes when we begin working, even if we've selected 
a track, the edit selection doesn't take.


Therefore, toggling it will force the edit selection to engage.
You may not have to select another track, you may just be able to 
toggle the track select on and off, not totally sure about this 
because I'm using control P and semi colon most of the time.


If you have a control surface, scrubbing inside the track will 
also create an insertion point.



This trips us all up on occasion, so it needs to be part of our 
preflight check before we begin editing.


Kevin

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Re: bouncing individual tracks

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Vaughn,

Make sure you're not on the show/hide control but on the name where you can 
hear whether the tracks are selected or not. Bringing up the contextual menu 
works there. The mouse pointer doesn't need to be focused there. It's a list of 
default actions that VoiceOver will see regardless of the mouse position. Hope 
that helps,
Slau

On Jan 18, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> All of the tracks are selected in the table list view under the edit mode. 
> The menu mentioned only shows hide, make inactive, scroll into view, rename, 
> duplicate, delete, new, and hide and make inactive. I still do not see any 
> bounce. All in all, there are only eight options under this menu. If it is 
> indeed a Voiceover focus issue, what is the command to focus Voiceover?
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> Vaughn
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Re: bouncing individual tracks

[Vaughn Brown]

Hello,

All of the tracks are selected in the table list view under the edit mode. The 
menu mentioned only shows hide, make inactive, scroll into view, rename, 
duplicate, delete, new, and hide and make inactive. I still do not see any 
bounce. All in all, there are only eight options under this menu. If it is 
indeed a Voiceover focus issue, what is the command to focus Voiceover?


Thank you,
Vaughn

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