Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Hi John, Agreed, having access to the various flavors of meters would be helpful but the problem of LUFS readings cannot be solved by a real-time meter. We still have to rely on the overall analysis which only plug-ins currently offer. Thanks for interfacing with them to help further the accessibility. Cheers, Slau > On Oct 29, 2018, at 11:55 AM, John André Lium-Netland > wrote: > > Hi Slau, > > As far as I know, they are using the frame work they use for other plugins > they develop, but I have no clue what code language they use. > > Feel free to contact the developer at proau...@tb-software.com > > Since integrated loudness only gives an average loudness of the whole song, I > need to also know I’m below the short loudness values I’m aiming for, > something the AccessiblePeakMeter2 covers. Yes, it would be better with a > specific number read out like the level meter in Pro Tools does for peak, but > an audible feedback for a threshold that one aims for, is for me the next > best, but currently only solution. > > Of course, if AVID would make the meter in Pro Tools reflect the meter > setting in the preferences also for VoiceOver users, instead of only showing > peak values, it would be nice…. > > Best, > John André > > > On 29 Oct 2018, at 16:37, Slau Halatyn wrote: > > Hi John, > > I'm sure it's calibrated to the reference but there's no way to read an > attained value with the plug-in, at least not in Pro Tools. I saw that there > was some facility to get to those values through reaper and perhaps Logic but > it's not accessible in the AAX version. Hearing it and reading it are two > entirely different things. > > Ian's an old friend of mine and the stand-alone app he suggests provides the > relevant information but simply not in plug-in form which is okay but not > ideal. Pro Limiter provides integrated loudness readings which can be read > with VOCR so that's what I'm currently using. > > Do you know what platform they're using to develop the plug-in? > > Slau > >> On Oct 28, 2018, at 8:02 PM, John André Lium-Netland >> wrote: >> >> Hi Slau, >> >> According to the developer, the EBU ML and EBU SL mode gives you LUFS with >> the EBU R128 reference... >> >> Best, >> John André >> >> >> >> >> >> On 29 Oct 2018, at 00:16, Slau Halatyn wrote: >> >> Hi John, >> I just took another look and it appears that, since they still have the >> original Accessible Peak Meter still on their site, I must have >> inadvertently re-downloaded the original. I'll download the version 2 and >> will have a look. Cheers, >> Slau >> >>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 10:06 AM, John André Lium-Netland >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak >>> meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, >>> I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for >>> these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your >>> startup drive. >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. >>> So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if >>> you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB RMS, >>> or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you aim >>> for and raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by the >>> music. For some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make sure the >>> dynamic range of your song, that is the difference between the loudest and >>> the most silent parts of your song, is not more than for example 8 dB. You >>> can check this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you >>> aim for as the highest loudness, and then play the most silent parts of >>> your song. If the threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing >>> that issue by using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in >>> the song. >>> >>> I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify >>> this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types >>> and different situations. but you might of course create such presets >>> yourself in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. >>> >>> If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different >>> parts in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you hear >>> the threshold value is touched by the music. >>> >>> If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the >>> threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. >>> >>> The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a >>> freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the music >>> is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set the freq >>> to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched at a >>> certain value, you know
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Hi Slau, As far as I know, they are using the frame work they use for other plugins they develop, but I have no clue what code language they use. Feel free to contact the developer at proau...@tb-software.com Since integrated loudness only gives an average loudness of the whole song, I need to also know I’m below the short loudness values I’m aiming for, something the AccessiblePeakMeter2 covers. Yes, it would be better with a specific number read out like the level meter in Pro Tools does for peak, but an audible feedback for a threshold that one aims for, is for me the next best, but currently only solution. Of course, if AVID would make the meter in Pro Tools reflect the meter setting in the preferences also for VoiceOver users, instead of only showing peak values, it would be nice…. Best, John André On 29 Oct 2018, at 16:37, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi John, I'm sure it's calibrated to the reference but there's no way to read an attained value with the plug-in, at least not in Pro Tools. I saw that there was some facility to get to those values through reaper and perhaps Logic but it's not accessible in the AAX version. Hearing it and reading it are two entirely different things. Ian's an old friend of mine and the stand-alone app he suggests provides the relevant information but simply not in plug-in form which is okay but not ideal. Pro Limiter provides integrated loudness readings which can be read with VOCR so that's what I'm currently using. Do you know what platform they're using to develop the plug-in? Slau > On Oct 28, 2018, at 8:02 PM, John André Lium-Netland > wrote: > > Hi Slau, > > According to the developer, the EBU ML and EBU SL mode gives you LUFS with > the EBU R128 reference... > > Best, > John André > > > > > > On 29 Oct 2018, at 00:16, Slau Halatyn wrote: > > Hi John, > I just took another look and it appears that, since they still have the > original Accessible Peak Meter still on their site, I must have inadvertently > re-downloaded the original. I'll download the version 2 and will have a look. > Cheers, > Slau > >> On Oct 26, 2018, at 10:06 AM, John André Lium-Netland >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak >> meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, >> I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for >> these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your >> startup drive. >> >> Hi, >> >> Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. >> So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if >> you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB RMS, >> or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you aim for >> and raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by the music. >> For some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make sure the dynamic >> range of your song, that is the difference between the loudest and the most >> silent parts of your song, is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check >> this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as >> the highest loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If >> the threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by >> using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. >> >> I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify >> this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types and >> different situations. but you might of course create such presets yourself >> in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. >> >> If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different parts >> in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you hear the >> threshold value is touched by the music. >> >> If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the >> threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. >> >> The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a >> freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the music >> is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set the freq >> to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched at a >> certain value, you know that this is the volume between 1000 and 1500 Hz. By >> moving the freq value up and down, and change the threshold until it is >> touched by the music, you’ll get a picture of how loud the music is in >> different freq ranges for this song. >> >> Does this make sense? ;) >> >> Best, >> John André >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:37, John André Lium-Netland >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Some great news today: >> Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, >> TBProAudio this
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Hi John, I'm sure it's calibrated to the reference but there's no way to read an attained value with the plug-in, at least not in Pro Tools. I saw that there was some facility to get to those values through reaper and perhaps Logic but it's not accessible in the AAX version. Hearing it and reading it are two entirely different things. Ian's an old friend of mine and the stand-alone app he suggests provides the relevant information but simply not in plug-in form which is okay but not ideal. Pro Limiter provides integrated loudness readings which can be read with VOCR so that's what I'm currently using. Do you know what platform they're using to develop the plug-in? Slau > On Oct 28, 2018, at 8:02 PM, John André Lium-Netland > wrote: > > Hi Slau, > > According to the developer, the EBU ML and EBU SL mode gives you LUFS with > the EBU R128 reference... > > Best, > John André > > > > > > On 29 Oct 2018, at 00:16, Slau Halatyn wrote: > > Hi John, > I just took another look and it appears that, since they still have the > original Accessible Peak Meter still on their site, I must have inadvertently > re-downloaded the original. I'll download the version 2 and will have a look. > Cheers, > Slau > >> On Oct 26, 2018, at 10:06 AM, John André Lium-Netland >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak >> meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, >> I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for >> these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your >> startup drive. >> >> Hi, >> >> Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. >> So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if >> you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB RMS, >> or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you aim for >> and raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by the music. >> For some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make sure the dynamic >> range of your song, that is the difference between the loudest and the most >> silent parts of your song, is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check >> this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as >> the highest loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If >> the threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by >> using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. >> >> I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify >> this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types and >> different situations. but you might of course create such presets yourself >> in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. >> >> If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different parts >> in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you hear the >> threshold value is touched by the music. >> >> If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the >> threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. >> >> The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a >> freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the music >> is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set the freq >> to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched at a >> certain value, you know that this is the volume between 1000 and 1500 Hz. By >> moving the freq value up and down, and change the threshold until it is >> touched by the music, you’ll get a picture of how loud the music is in >> different freq ranges for this song. >> >> Does this make sense? ;) >> >> Best, >> John André >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:37, John André Lium-Netland >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Some great news today: >> Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, >> TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible >> meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 >> if you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro >> Tools/VoiceOver/Mac and other DAWs and platforms. >> >> Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed >> AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will >> work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. >> >> They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. >> >> I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my >> request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other accessible >> meters that does all this. The products can be downloaded free of charge >> from TBProAudio here: >> >> https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/download.html >>
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Hi, It shows the integrated loudness (program loudness), the true peak value and the loudness range (difference between the loudest and most silent passages in the file). If you interact with the table and navigate left/right you’ll hear 3 values, can’t remember which is first or last, but I think the true peak was last. Best, John André On 29 Oct 2018, at 04:30, John Covici wrote: Hi. I processed a file and it said program loudness and another value something about dpt, just one entry in the table for a single file — is this what I should be seeing? > On Oct 28, 2018, at 8:19 PM, John André Lium-Netland > wrote: > > Hi, > > Ian Shepherd suggested this small app that read out several values for the > file you load into it, I’ve tested it and if you know the label of the values > in the table, the values are accessible with VO. However, it will still not > tell you the position in the file for the values obtained. > > Download here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rjdqzu8mvtoquvp/r128x-gui-0-22.zip > > Read more here: http://themasteringshow.com/episode-44/ > > Best, > John André > > > On 28 Oct 2018, at 19:37, John Covici wrote: > > This is already recorded, I need to do this after the fact. > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 13:13:19 -0400, > CHUCK REICHEL wrote: >> >> Hi John, >> >> What about putting a limiter on the master buss and setting the output >> ceiling to what ever you want? >> Waves l1 or l2 or l3 is accessible to do this. :) >> Would that work for your need? >> >> Thanks >> Chuck >> "God does not play dice with the universe" >> "Albert Einstein’ >> >> On Oct 28, 2018, at 12:27 PM, John Covici wrote: >> >>> I am very surprised there is not a plug in which will do this. By the >>> way, I did look aat the gain plugin and pushed the analyze button, but >>> nothing happened -- am I doing something wrong? >>> >>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 10:59:42 -0400, >>> Steve Sparrow wrote: Hi John. If you want to find the highest peak in a file without having to play through the file I don’t believe it’s doable easily in Protools. As Slau said there are work arounds that will assist you to do it. But what you need is a find largest peak option. This actual feature is available in programs like sound forge, But i’ve only found it in the windows version. Although i’ve not updated to the latest version of sound forge on the mac side, so it might be there now.I use this feature quite a bit especially in radio production. How it works is you go to the find largest peak from the menu, hit enter and it takes you to the largest peak in the file, and you can edit it from that point. Very useful. how ever i’ve not been able to achieve this in protools without playing the track, and looking at the highest peak on the metre read out. A sighted person could probably achieve this easily in Protools, i’d imagine, as they could see exactly where the highest peaks are in the time line. quickly. I don’t think the accessible peak metre will make it much quicker in this respect, as it works off the level metres, it couldn’t give you any audible indication what the highest peak was unless you are playing the track. How ever i’m happy to be corrected here if there are other ways to achieve this. Steve > On 27 Oct 2018, at 12:13 am, John Covici wrote: > > Now if only there were a way to find the maximum volume in a file, > maybe n hour or two, that would be very nice. And I don't want to > play the whole thing to find out! > > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:06:39 -0400, > John André Lium-Netland wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak >> meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, >> I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for >> these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your >> startup drive. >> >> Hi, >> >> Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are >> touched. So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak >> values. So, if you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB >> LUFS or -16 dB RMS, or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold >> to the value you aim for and raise the volume until you hear the >> threshold is touched by the music. For some music genres, it might also >> be a good idea to make sure the dynamic range of your song, that is the >> difference between the loudest and the most silent parts of your song, >> is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check this by setting the >> threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as the highest >> loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If the >>
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Hi. I processed a file and it said program loudness and another value something about dpt, just one entry in the table for a single file — is this what I should be seeing? > On Oct 28, 2018, at 8:19 PM, John André Lium-Netland > wrote: > > Hi, > > Ian Shepherd suggested this small app that read out several values for the > file you load into it, I’ve tested it and if you know the label of the values > in the table, the values are accessible with VO. However, it will still not > tell you the position in the file for the values obtained. > > Download here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rjdqzu8mvtoquvp/r128x-gui-0-22.zip > > Read more here: http://themasteringshow.com/episode-44/ > > Best, > John André > > > On 28 Oct 2018, at 19:37, John Covici wrote: > > This is already recorded, I need to do this after the fact. > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 13:13:19 -0400, > CHUCK REICHEL wrote: >> >> Hi John, >> >> What about putting a limiter on the master buss and setting the output >> ceiling to what ever you want? >> Waves l1 or l2 or l3 is accessible to do this. :) >> Would that work for your need? >> >> Thanks >> Chuck >> "God does not play dice with the universe" >> "Albert Einstein’ >> >> On Oct 28, 2018, at 12:27 PM, John Covici wrote: >> >>> I am very surprised there is not a plug in which will do this. By the >>> way, I did look aat the gain plugin and pushed the analyze button, but >>> nothing happened -- am I doing something wrong? >>> >>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 10:59:42 -0400, >>> Steve Sparrow wrote: Hi John. If you want to find the highest peak in a file without having to play through the file I don’t believe it’s doable easily in Protools. As Slau said there are work arounds that will assist you to do it. But what you need is a find largest peak option. This actual feature is available in programs like sound forge, But i’ve only found it in the windows version. Although i’ve not updated to the latest version of sound forge on the mac side, so it might be there now.I use this feature quite a bit especially in radio production. How it works is you go to the find largest peak from the menu, hit enter and it takes you to the largest peak in the file, and you can edit it from that point. Very useful. how ever i’ve not been able to achieve this in protools without playing the track, and looking at the highest peak on the metre read out. A sighted person could probably achieve this easily in Protools, i’d imagine, as they could see exactly where the highest peaks are in the time line. quickly. I don’t think the accessible peak metre will make it much quicker in this respect, as it works off the level metres, it couldn’t give you any audible indication what the highest peak was unless you are playing the track. How ever i’m happy to be corrected here if there are other ways to achieve this. Steve > On 27 Oct 2018, at 12:13 am, John Covici wrote: > > Now if only there were a way to find the maximum volume in a file, > maybe n hour or two, that would be very nice. And I don't want to > play the whole thing to find out! > > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:06:39 -0400, > John André Lium-Netland wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak >> meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, >> I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for >> these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your >> startup drive. >> >> Hi, >> >> Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are >> touched. So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak >> values. So, if you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB >> LUFS or -16 dB RMS, or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold >> to the value you aim for and raise the volume until you hear the >> threshold is touched by the music. For some music genres, it might also >> be a good idea to make sure the dynamic range of your song, that is the >> difference between the loudest and the most silent parts of your song, >> is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check this by setting the >> threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as the highest >> loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If the >> threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by >> using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. >> >> I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to >> simplify this, since you then can have separate presets for different >> meter types and different situations. but you might of course create >> such
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Thanks a lot, I will definitely check this out. On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 20:19:52 -0400, John André Lium-Netland wrote: > > Hi, > > Ian Shepherd suggested this small app that read out several values for the > file you load into it, I’ve tested it and if you know the label of the values > in the table, the values are accessible with VO. However, it will still not > tell you the position in the file for the values obtained. > > Download here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rjdqzu8mvtoquvp/r128x-gui-0-22.zip > > Read more here: http://themasteringshow.com/episode-44/ > > Best, > John André > > > On 28 Oct 2018, at 19:37, John Covici wrote: > > This is already recorded, I need to do this after the fact. > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 13:13:19 -0400, > CHUCK REICHEL wrote: > > > > Hi John, > > > > What about putting a limiter on the master buss and setting the output > > ceiling to what ever you want? > > Waves l1 or l2 or l3 is accessible to do this. :) > > Would that work for your need? > > > > Thanks > > Chuck > > "God does not play dice with the universe" > > "Albert Einstein’ > > > > On Oct 28, 2018, at 12:27 PM, John Covici wrote: > > > >> I am very surprised there is not a plug in which will do this. By the > >> way, I did look aat the gain plugin and pushed the analyze button, but > >> nothing happened -- am I doing something wrong? > >> > >> On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 10:59:42 -0400, > >> Steve Sparrow wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi John. If you want to find the highest peak in a file without having to > >>> play through the file I don’t believe it’s doable easily in Protools. As > >>> Slau said there are work arounds that will assist you to do it. But what > >>> you need is a find largest peak option. This actual feature is available > >>> in programs like sound forge, But i’ve only found it in the windows > >>> version. Although i’ve not updated to the latest version of sound forge > >>> on the mac side, so it might be there now.I use this feature quite a bit > >>> especially in radio production. How it works is you go to the find > >>> largest peak from the menu, hit enter and it takes you to the largest > >>> peak in the file, and you can edit it from that point. Very useful. how > >>> ever i’ve not been able to achieve this in protools without playing the > >>> track, and looking at the highest peak on the metre read out. > >>> A sighted person could probably achieve this easily in Protools, i’d > >>> imagine, as they could see exactly where the highest peaks are in the > >>> time line. quickly. > >>> I don’t think the accessible peak metre will make it much quicker in this > >>> respect, as it works off the level metres, it couldn’t give you any > >>> audible indication what the highest peak was unless you are playing the > >>> track. How ever i’m happy to be corrected here if there are other ways to > >>> achieve this. > >>> > >>> Steve > >>> > On 27 Oct 2018, at 12:13 am, John Covici wrote: > > Now if only there were a way to find the maximum volume in a file, > maybe n hour or two, that would be very nice. And I don't want to > play the whole thing to find out! > > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:06:39 -0400, > John André Lium-Netland wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible > > peak meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone > > else, I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the > > manuals for these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation > > folder on your startup drive. > > > > Hi, > > > > Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are > > touched. So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak > > values. So, if you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB > > LUFS or -16 dB RMS, or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold > > to the value you aim for and raise the volume until you hear the > > threshold is touched by the music. For some music genres, it might also > > be a good idea to make sure the dynamic range of your song, that is the > > difference between the loudest and the most silent parts of your song, > > is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check this by setting the > > threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as the highest > > loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If the > > threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by > > using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. > > > > I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to > > simplify this, since you then can have separate presets for different > > meter types and different situations. but you might of course create > > such presets yourself in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. >
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Hi, Ian Shepherd suggested this small app that read out several values for the file you load into it, I’ve tested it and if you know the label of the values in the table, the values are accessible with VO. However, it will still not tell you the position in the file for the values obtained. Download here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rjdqzu8mvtoquvp/r128x-gui-0-22.zip Read more here: http://themasteringshow.com/episode-44/ Best, John André On 28 Oct 2018, at 19:37, John Covici wrote: This is already recorded, I need to do this after the fact. On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 13:13:19 -0400, CHUCK REICHEL wrote: > > Hi John, > > What about putting a limiter on the master buss and setting the output > ceiling to what ever you want? > Waves l1 or l2 or l3 is accessible to do this. :) > Would that work for your need? > > Thanks > Chuck > "God does not play dice with the universe" > "Albert Einstein’ > > On Oct 28, 2018, at 12:27 PM, John Covici wrote: > >> I am very surprised there is not a plug in which will do this. By the >> way, I did look aat the gain plugin and pushed the analyze button, but >> nothing happened -- am I doing something wrong? >> >> On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 10:59:42 -0400, >> Steve Sparrow wrote: >>> >>> Hi John. If you want to find the highest peak in a file without having to >>> play through the file I don’t believe it’s doable easily in Protools. As >>> Slau said there are work arounds that will assist you to do it. But what >>> you need is a find largest peak option. This actual feature is available in >>> programs like sound forge, But i’ve only found it in the windows version. >>> Although i’ve not updated to the latest version of sound forge on the mac >>> side, so it might be there now.I use this feature quite a bit especially in >>> radio production. How it works is you go to the find largest peak from the >>> menu, hit enter and it takes you to the largest peak in the file, and you >>> can edit it from that point. Very useful. how ever i’ve not been able to >>> achieve this in protools without playing the track, and looking at the >>> highest peak on the metre read out. >>> A sighted person could probably achieve this easily in Protools, i’d >>> imagine, as they could see exactly where the highest peaks are in the time >>> line. quickly. >>> I don’t think the accessible peak metre will make it much quicker in this >>> respect, as it works off the level metres, it couldn’t give you any audible >>> indication what the highest peak was unless you are playing the track. How >>> ever i’m happy to be corrected here if there are other ways to achieve this. >>> >>> Steve >>> On 27 Oct 2018, at 12:13 am, John Covici wrote: Now if only there were a way to find the maximum volume in a file, maybe n hour or two, that would be very nice. And I don't want to play the whole thing to find out! On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:06:39 -0400, John André Lium-Netland wrote: > > Hi, > > I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak > meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, > I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for > these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your > startup drive. > > Hi, > > Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are > touched. So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak > values. So, if you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB > LUFS or -16 dB RMS, or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold > to the value you aim for and raise the volume until you hear the > threshold is touched by the music. For some music genres, it might also > be a good idea to make sure the dynamic range of your song, that is the > difference between the loudest and the most silent parts of your song, is > not more than for example 8 dB. You can check this by setting the > threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as the highest > loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If the > threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by > using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. > > I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify > this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types > and different situations. but you might of course create such presets > yourself in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. > > If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different > parts in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you > hear the threshold value is touched by the music. > > If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the > threshold to the K value,
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Hi Slau, According to the developer, the EBU ML and EBU SL mode gives you LUFS with the EBU R128 reference... Best, John André On 29 Oct 2018, at 00:16, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi John, I just took another look and it appears that, since they still have the original Accessible Peak Meter still on their site, I must have inadvertently re-downloaded the original. I'll download the version 2 and will have a look. Cheers, Slau > On Oct 26, 2018, at 10:06 AM, John André Lium-Netland > wrote: > > Hi, > > I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak > meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, I’ll > paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for these > plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your startup > drive. > > Hi, > > Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. So > that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if you > aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB RMS, or > -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you aim for and > raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by the music. For > some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make sure the dynamic > range of your song, that is the difference between the loudest and the most > silent parts of your song, is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check > this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as > the highest loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If > the threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by > using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. > > I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify > this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types and > different situations. but you might of course create such presets yourself in > Logic Pro or Pro Tools. > > If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different parts > in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you hear the > threshold value is touched by the music. > > If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the > threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. > > The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a > freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the music > is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set the freq > to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched at a certain > value, you know that this is the volume between 1000 and 1500 Hz. By moving > the freq value up and down, and change the threshold until it is touched by > the music, you’ll get a picture of how loud the music is in different freq > ranges for this song. > > Does this make sense? ;) > > Best, > John André > > > > > > > > > > > > On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:37, John André Lium-Netland > wrote: > > Hi, > > Some great news today: > Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, > TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible > meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 if > you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac > and other DAWs and platforms. > > Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed > AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will > work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. > > They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. > > I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my > request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other accessible > meters that does all this. The products can be downloaded free of charge from > TBProAudio here: > > https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/download.html > > Look for the AccessiblePeakMeter2, and the accessible spectrum analyser. The > products are calibrated for 0 dB FS, so no further calibration is needed. I’m > working on a set of presets that will speed up the setup of different meters > for different situations. I’ll share them when I have done some testing. > > Hope this will help others as well! > > Best, > John André > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Hi John, I just took another look and it appears that, since they still have the original Accessible Peak Meter still on their site, I must have inadvertently re-downloaded the original. I'll download the version 2 and will have a look. Cheers, Slau > On Oct 26, 2018, at 10:06 AM, John André Lium-Netland > wrote: > > Hi, > > I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak > meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, I’ll > paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for these > plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your startup > drive. > > Hi, > > Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. So > that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if you > aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB RMS, or > -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you aim for and > raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by the music. For > some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make sure the dynamic > range of your song, that is the difference between the loudest and the most > silent parts of your song, is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check > this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as > the highest loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If > the threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by > using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. > > I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify > this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types and > different situations. but you might of course create such presets yourself in > Logic Pro or Pro Tools. > > If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different parts > in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you hear the > threshold value is touched by the music. > > If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the > threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. > > The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a > freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the music > is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set the freq > to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched at a certain > value, you know that this is the volume between 1000 and 1500 Hz. By moving > the freq value up and down, and change the threshold until it is touched by > the music, you’ll get a picture of how loud the music is in different freq > ranges for this song. > > Does this make sense? ;) > > Best, > John André > > > > > > > > > > > > On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:37, John André Lium-Netland > wrote: > > Hi, > > Some great news today: > Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, > TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible > meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 if > you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac > and other DAWs and platforms. > > Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed > AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will > work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. > > They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. > > I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my > request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other accessible > meters that does all this. The products can be downloaded free of charge from > TBProAudio here: > > https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/download.html > > Look for the AccessiblePeakMeter2, and the accessible spectrum analyser. The > products are calibrated for 0 dB FS, so no further calibration is needed. I’m > working on a set of presets that will speed up the setup of different meters > for different situations. I’ll share them when I have done some testing. > > Hope this will help others as well! > > Best, > John André > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Hi John, First, I see no documentation in my Shared Library. I'm wondering whether it's available separately. I'll double check. Second, this meter plug-in is measuring peak and RMS values but not LUFS which offers momentary, short-term, Loudness unit and integrated loudness values. I don't see how those are accessible through this meter. Am I missing something? Otherwise, it's simply a peak/RMS meter. While I'm happy it exists, personally, I find the use of a signal extremely distracting and a series of values would be far more useful. Again, not having been able to find the documentation, maybe I'm missing something but, given that we're dealing with automation parameters rather than an accessible reading of values, I can't see how this would qualify as an LUFS meter. BTW, do you know if they're using JUCE as the development platform? Slau > On Oct 26, 2018, at 10:06 AM, John André Lium-Netland > wrote: > > Hi, > > I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak > meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, I’ll > paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for these > plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your startup > drive. > > Hi, > > Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. So > that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if you > aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB RMS, or > -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you aim for and > raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by the music. For > some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make sure the dynamic > range of your song, that is the difference between the loudest and the most > silent parts of your song, is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check > this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as > the highest loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If > the threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by > using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. > > I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify > this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types and > different situations. but you might of course create such presets yourself in > Logic Pro or Pro Tools. > > If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different parts > in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you hear the > threshold value is touched by the music. > > If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the > threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. > > The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a > freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the music > is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set the freq > to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched at a certain > value, you know that this is the volume between 1000 and 1500 Hz. By moving > the freq value up and down, and change the threshold until it is touched by > the music, you’ll get a picture of how loud the music is in different freq > ranges for this song. > > Does this make sense? ;) > > Best, > John André > > > > > > > > > > > > On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:37, John André Lium-Netland > wrote: > > Hi, > > Some great news today: > Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, > TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible > meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 if > you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac > and other DAWs and platforms. > > Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed > AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will > work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. > > They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. > > I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my > request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other accessible > meters that does all this. The products can be downloaded free of charge from > TBProAudio here: > > https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/download.html > > Look for the AccessiblePeakMeter2, and the accessible spectrum analyser. The > products are calibrated for 0 dB FS, so no further calibration is needed. I’m > working on a set of presets that will speed up the setup of different meters > for different situations. I’ll share them when I have done some testing. > > Hope this will help others as well! > > Best, > John André > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Hi John, If your not hearing clipping try to; Clip gain it down 3 to 5 db? You can also put the Limiter on the audio track and then set your ceiling and "commit the audio track" which will "bake" in the new ceiling. :) Talk soon Chuck On Oct 28, 2018, at 2:37 PM, John Covici wrote: > This is already recorded, I need to do this after the fact. > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 13:13:19 -0400, > CHUCK REICHEL wrote: >> >> Hi John, >> >> What about putting a limiter on the master buss and setting the output >> ceiling to what ever you want? >> Waves l1 or l2 or l3 is accessible to do this. :) >> Would that work for your need? >> >> Thanks >> Chuck >> "God does not play dice with the universe" >> "Albert Einstein’ >> >> On Oct 28, 2018, at 12:27 PM, John Covici wrote: >> >>> I am very surprised there is not a plug in which will do this. By the >>> way, I did look aat the gain plugin and pushed the analyze button, but >>> nothing happened -- am I doing something wrong? >>> >>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 10:59:42 -0400, >>> Steve Sparrow wrote: Hi John. If you want to find the highest peak in a file without having to play through the file I don’t believe it’s doable easily in Protools. As Slau said there are work arounds that will assist you to do it. But what you need is a find largest peak option. This actual feature is available in programs like sound forge, But i’ve only found it in the windows version. Although i’ve not updated to the latest version of sound forge on the mac side, so it might be there now.I use this feature quite a bit especially in radio production. How it works is you go to the find largest peak from the menu, hit enter and it takes you to the largest peak in the file, and you can edit it from that point. Very useful. how ever i’ve not been able to achieve this in protools without playing the track, and looking at the highest peak on the metre read out. A sighted person could probably achieve this easily in Protools, i’d imagine, as they could see exactly where the highest peaks are in the time line. quickly. I don’t think the accessible peak metre will make it much quicker in this respect, as it works off the level metres, it couldn’t give you any audible indication what the highest peak was unless you are playing the track. How ever i’m happy to be corrected here if there are other ways to achieve this. Steve > On 27 Oct 2018, at 12:13 am, John Covici wrote: > > Now if only there were a way to find the maximum volume in a file, > maybe n hour or two, that would be very nice. And I don't want to > play the whole thing to find out! > > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:06:39 -0400, > John André Lium-Netland wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak >> meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, >> I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for >> these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your >> startup drive. >> >> Hi, >> >> Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are >> touched. So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak >> values. So, if you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB >> LUFS or -16 dB RMS, or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold >> to the value you aim for and raise the volume until you hear the >> threshold is touched by the music. For some music genres, it might also >> be a good idea to make sure the dynamic range of your song, that is the >> difference between the loudest and the most silent parts of your song, >> is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check this by setting the >> threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as the highest >> loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If the >> threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by >> using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. >> >> I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to >> simplify this, since you then can have separate presets for different >> meter types and different situations. but you might of course create >> such presets yourself in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. >> >> If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different >> parts in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you >> hear the threshold value is touched by the music. >> >> If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the >> threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. >> >> The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Hi John, The result of the analysis is not yet accessible but you can use VOCR to read the result. It still won't put you at the exact spot but you'll know the peak value. Technically, at that point, you can use the Strip Silence dialog to set the threshold just below that value and you'll be able to tab right to it. Frankly, it's all a bit of hurdle jumping and you'd probably be just as well off letting the track run through or even just shuttling through it at high speed. If it's a 5-minute song, it'll take like forty seconds to go through the whole tune and you'll have your peak value. > On Oct 28, 2018, at 12:27 PM, John Covici wrote: > > I am very surprised there is not a plug in which will do this. By the > way, I did look aat the gain plugin and pushed the analyze button, but > nothing happened -- am I doing something wrong? > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 10:59:42 -0400, > Steve Sparrow wrote: >> >> Hi John. If you want to find the highest peak in a file without having to >> play through the file I don’t believe it’s doable easily in Protools. As >> Slau said there are work arounds that will assist you to do it. But what you >> need is a find largest peak option. This actual feature is available in >> programs like sound forge, But i’ve only found it in the windows version. >> Although i’ve not updated to the latest version of sound forge on the mac >> side, so it might be there now.I use this feature quite a bit especially in >> radio production. How it works is you go to the find largest peak from the >> menu, hit enter and it takes you to the largest peak in the file, and you >> can edit it from that point. Very useful. how ever i’ve not been able to >> achieve this in protools without playing the track, and looking at the >> highest peak on the metre read out. >> A sighted person could probably achieve this easily in Protools, i’d >> imagine, as they could see exactly where the highest peaks are in the time >> line. quickly. >> I don’t think the accessible peak metre will make it much quicker in this >> respect, as it works off the level metres, it couldn’t give you any audible >> indication what the highest peak was unless you are playing the track. How >> ever i’m happy to be corrected here if there are other ways to achieve this. >> >> Steve >> >>> On 27 Oct 2018, at 12:13 am, John Covici wrote: >>> >>> Now if only there were a way to find the maximum volume in a file, >>> maybe n hour or two, that would be very nice. And I don't want to >>> play the whole thing to find out! >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:06:39 -0400, >>> John André Lium-Netland wrote: Hi, I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your startup drive. Hi, Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB RMS, or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you aim for and raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by the music. For some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make sure the dynamic range of your song, that is the difference between the loudest and the most silent parts of your song, is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as the highest loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If the threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types and different situations. but you might of course create such presets yourself in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different parts in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you hear the threshold value is touched by the music. If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the music is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set the freq to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched at a certain value, you know
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Thanks for this update. Chad Morrison Main engineer MorrSound Studio Phone: 3162096524 Call for pricing > On Oct 24, 2018, at 7:37 AM, John André Lium-Netland > wrote: > > Hi, > > Some great news today: > Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, > TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible > meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 if > you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac > and other DAWs and platforms. > > Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed > AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will > work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. > > They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. > > I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my > request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other accessible > meters that does all this. The products can be downloaded free of charge from > TBProAudio here: > > https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/download.html > > Look for the AccessiblePeakMeter2, and the accessible spectrum analyser. The > products are calibrated for 0 dB FS, so no further calibration is needed. I’m > working on a set of presets that will speed up the setup of different meters > for different situations. I’ll share them when I have done some testing. > > Hope this will help others as well! > > Best, > John André > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
This is already recorded, I need to do this after the fact. On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 13:13:19 -0400, CHUCK REICHEL wrote: > > Hi John, > > What about putting a limiter on the master buss and setting the output > ceiling to what ever you want? > Waves l1 or l2 or l3 is accessible to do this. :) > Would that work for your need? > > Thanks > Chuck > "God does not play dice with the universe" > "Albert Einstein’ > > On Oct 28, 2018, at 12:27 PM, John Covici wrote: > > > I am very surprised there is not a plug in which will do this. By the > > way, I did look aat the gain plugin and pushed the analyze button, but > > nothing happened -- am I doing something wrong? > > > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 10:59:42 -0400, > > Steve Sparrow wrote: > >> > >> Hi John. If you want to find the highest peak in a file without having to > >> play through the file I don’t believe it’s doable easily in Protools. As > >> Slau said there are work arounds that will assist you to do it. But what > >> you need is a find largest peak option. This actual feature is available > >> in programs like sound forge, But i’ve only found it in the windows > >> version. Although i’ve not updated to the latest version of sound forge on > >> the mac side, so it might be there now.I use this feature quite a bit > >> especially in radio production. How it works is you go to the find largest > >> peak from the menu, hit enter and it takes you to the largest peak in the > >> file, and you can edit it from that point. Very useful. how ever i’ve not > >> been able to achieve this in protools without playing the track, and > >> looking at the highest peak on the metre read out. > >> A sighted person could probably achieve this easily in Protools, i’d > >> imagine, as they could see exactly where the highest peaks are in the time > >> line. quickly. > >> I don’t think the accessible peak metre will make it much quicker in this > >> respect, as it works off the level metres, it couldn’t give you any > >> audible indication what the highest peak was unless you are playing the > >> track. How ever i’m happy to be corrected here if there are other ways to > >> achieve this. > >> > >> Steve > >> > >>> On 27 Oct 2018, at 12:13 am, John Covici wrote: > >>> > >>> Now if only there were a way to find the maximum volume in a file, > >>> maybe n hour or two, that would be very nice. And I don't want to > >>> play the whole thing to find out! > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:06:39 -0400, > >>> John André Lium-Netland wrote: > > Hi, > > I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak > meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, > I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for > these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your > startup drive. > > Hi, > > Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are > touched. So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak > values. So, if you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB > LUFS or -16 dB RMS, or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold > to the value you aim for and raise the volume until you hear the > threshold is touched by the music. For some music genres, it might also > be a good idea to make sure the dynamic range of your song, that is the > difference between the loudest and the most silent parts of your song, > is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check this by setting the > threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as the highest > loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If the > threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by > using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. > > I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to > simplify this, since you then can have separate presets for different > meter types and different situations. but you might of course create > such presets yourself in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. > > If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different > parts in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you > hear the threshold value is touched by the music. > > If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the > threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. > > The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set > a freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the > music is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set > the freq to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is > touched at a certain value, you know that this is the volume
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Hi John, What about putting a limiter on the master buss and setting the output ceiling to what ever you want? Waves l1 or l2 or l3 is accessible to do this. :) Would that work for your need? Thanks Chuck "God does not play dice with the universe" "Albert Einstein’ On Oct 28, 2018, at 12:27 PM, John Covici wrote: > I am very surprised there is not a plug in which will do this. By the > way, I did look aat the gain plugin and pushed the analyze button, but > nothing happened -- am I doing something wrong? > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 10:59:42 -0400, > Steve Sparrow wrote: >> >> Hi John. If you want to find the highest peak in a file without having to >> play through the file I don’t believe it’s doable easily in Protools. As >> Slau said there are work arounds that will assist you to do it. But what you >> need is a find largest peak option. This actual feature is available in >> programs like sound forge, But i’ve only found it in the windows version. >> Although i’ve not updated to the latest version of sound forge on the mac >> side, so it might be there now.I use this feature quite a bit especially in >> radio production. How it works is you go to the find largest peak from the >> menu, hit enter and it takes you to the largest peak in the file, and you >> can edit it from that point. Very useful. how ever i’ve not been able to >> achieve this in protools without playing the track, and looking at the >> highest peak on the metre read out. >> A sighted person could probably achieve this easily in Protools, i’d >> imagine, as they could see exactly where the highest peaks are in the time >> line. quickly. >> I don’t think the accessible peak metre will make it much quicker in this >> respect, as it works off the level metres, it couldn’t give you any audible >> indication what the highest peak was unless you are playing the track. How >> ever i’m happy to be corrected here if there are other ways to achieve this. >> >> Steve >> >>> On 27 Oct 2018, at 12:13 am, John Covici wrote: >>> >>> Now if only there were a way to find the maximum volume in a file, >>> maybe n hour or two, that would be very nice. And I don't want to >>> play the whole thing to find out! >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:06:39 -0400, >>> John André Lium-Netland wrote: Hi, I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your startup drive. Hi, Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB RMS, or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you aim for and raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by the music. For some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make sure the dynamic range of your song, that is the difference between the loudest and the most silent parts of your song, is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as the highest loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If the threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types and different situations. but you might of course create such presets yourself in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different parts in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you hear the threshold value is touched by the music. If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the music is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set the freq to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched at a certain value, you know that this is the volume between 1000 and 1500 Hz. By moving the freq value up and down, and change the threshold until it is touched by the music, you’ll get a picture of how loud the music is in different freq ranges for this song. Does this make sense? ;) Best, John André
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
I am very surprised there is not a plug in which will do this. By the way, I did look aat the gain plugin and pushed the analyze button, but nothing happened -- am I doing something wrong? On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 10:59:42 -0400, Steve Sparrow wrote: > > Hi John. If you want to find the highest peak in a file without having to > play through the file I don’t believe it’s doable easily in Protools. As Slau > said there are work arounds that will assist you to do it. But what you need > is a find largest peak option. This actual feature is available in programs > like sound forge, But i’ve only found it in the windows version. Although > i’ve not updated to the latest version of sound forge on the mac side, so it > might be there now.I use this feature quite a bit especially in radio > production. How it works is you go to the find largest peak from the menu, > hit enter and it takes you to the largest peak in the file, and you can edit > it from that point. Very useful. how ever i’ve not been able to achieve this > in protools without playing the track, and looking at the highest peak on the > metre read out. > A sighted person could probably achieve this easily in Protools, i’d imagine, > as they could see exactly where the highest peaks are in the time line. > quickly. > I don’t think the accessible peak metre will make it much quicker in this > respect, as it works off the level metres, it couldn’t give you any audible > indication what the highest peak was unless you are playing the track. How > ever i’m happy to be corrected here if there are other ways to achieve this. > > Steve > > > On 27 Oct 2018, at 12:13 am, John Covici wrote: > > > > Now if only there were a way to find the maximum volume in a file, > > maybe n hour or two, that would be very nice. And I don't want to > > play the whole thing to find out! > > > > > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:06:39 -0400, > > John André Lium-Netland wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak > >> meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, > >> I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for > >> these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your > >> startup drive. > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. > >> So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if > >> you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB > >> RMS, or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you > >> aim for and raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by > >> the music. For some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make > >> sure the dynamic range of your song, that is the difference between the > >> loudest and the most silent parts of your song, is not more than for > >> example 8 dB. You can check this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB > >> lower than what you aim for as the highest loudness, and then play the > >> most silent parts of your song. If the threshold is not touched here, you > >> might consider fixing that issue by using automation or compression to > >> even out the dynamics in the song. > >> > >> I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify > >> this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types > >> and different situations. but you might of course create such presets > >> yourself in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. > >> > >> If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different > >> parts in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you > >> hear the threshold value is touched by the music. > >> > >> If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the > >> threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. > >> > >> The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a > >> freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the > >> music is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set > >> the freq to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched > >> at a certain value, you know that this is the volume between 1000 and 1500 > >> Hz. By moving the freq value up and down, and change the threshold until > >> it is touched by the music, you’ll get a picture of how loud the music is > >> in different freq ranges for this song. > >> > >> Does this make sense? ;) > >> > >> Best, > >> John André > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:37, John André Lium-Netland > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Some great news today: > >> Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, > >> TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an > >> accessible meter that will work for
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Hi John. If you want to find the highest peak in a file without having to play through the file I don’t believe it’s doable easily in Protools. As Slau said there are work arounds that will assist you to do it. But what you need is a find largest peak option. This actual feature is available in programs like sound forge, But i’ve only found it in the windows version. Although i’ve not updated to the latest version of sound forge on the mac side, so it might be there now.I use this feature quite a bit especially in radio production. How it works is you go to the find largest peak from the menu, hit enter and it takes you to the largest peak in the file, and you can edit it from that point. Very useful. how ever i’ve not been able to achieve this in protools without playing the track, and looking at the highest peak on the metre read out. A sighted person could probably achieve this easily in Protools, i’d imagine, as they could see exactly where the highest peaks are in the time line. quickly. I don’t think the accessible peak metre will make it much quicker in this respect, as it works off the level metres, it couldn’t give you any audible indication what the highest peak was unless you are playing the track. How ever i’m happy to be corrected here if there are other ways to achieve this. Steve > On 27 Oct 2018, at 12:13 am, John Covici wrote: > > Now if only there were a way to find the maximum volume in a file, > maybe n hour or two, that would be very nice. And I don't want to > play the whole thing to find out! > > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:06:39 -0400, > John André Lium-Netland wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak >> meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, >> I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for >> these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your >> startup drive. >> >> Hi, >> >> Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. >> So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if >> you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB RMS, >> or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you aim for >> and raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by the music. >> For some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make sure the dynamic >> range of your song, that is the difference between the loudest and the most >> silent parts of your song, is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check >> this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as >> the highest loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If >> the threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by >> using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. >> >> I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify >> this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types and >> different situations. but you might of course create such presets yourself >> in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. >> >> If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different parts >> in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you hear the >> threshold value is touched by the music. >> >> If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the >> threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. >> >> The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a >> freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the music >> is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set the freq >> to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched at a >> certain value, you know that this is the volume between 1000 and 1500 Hz. By >> moving the freq value up and down, and change the threshold until it is >> touched by the music, you’ll get a picture of how loud the music is in >> different freq ranges for this song. >> >> Does this make sense? ;) >> >> Best, >> John André >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:37, John André Lium-Netland >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Some great news today: >> Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, >> TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible >> meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 >> if you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro >> Tools/VoiceOver/Mac and other DAWs and platforms. >> >> Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed >> AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will >> work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. >> >> They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Given that you already know a couple of passages in the file where you assume the highest peak is, playing them and adjusting the AccessiblePeakMeter2 in the peak mode until you find the position where the threshold is only touched once, will give you the highest peak position as well, but it’s of course not a very fast procedure. But doable….. I assume that using a fast forward with audio will not be sufficient, since the audio might not be at the correct level, and you will possibly loose the exact position you are looking for…, but it might give you an idea…. Haven’t tried it myself, though…. ;) On 26 Oct 2018, at 18:04, John Covici wrote: Thanks for your response. But that still does not tell me where it is in the file which I would really like to know. On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:23:37 -0400, John André Lium-Netland wrote: > > I see your point…. Not sure if there is such a tool available, but for > shorter audio, I would reset the peak meter for the master inside of PT and > play the whole file. If the meter is set correctly in the preferences, it > will show the highest level obtained when finished. > > On 26 Oct 2018, at 16:13, John Covici wrote: > > Now if only there were a way to find the maximum volume in a file, > maybe n hour or two, that would be very nice. And I don't want to > play the whole thing to find out! > > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:06:39 -0400, > John André Lium-Netland wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak >> meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, >> I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for >> these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your >> startup drive. >> >> Hi, >> >> Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. >> So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if >> you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB RMS, >> or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you aim for >> and raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by the music. >> For some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make sure the dynamic >> range of your song, that is the difference between the loudest and the most >> silent parts of your song, is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check >> this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as >> the highest loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If >> the threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by >> using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. >> >> I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify >> this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types and >> different situations. but you might of course create such presets yourself >> in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. >> >> If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different parts >> in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you hear the >> threshold value is touched by the music. >> >> If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the >> threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. >> >> The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a >> freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the music >> is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set the freq >> to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched at a >> certain value, you know that this is the volume between 1000 and 1500 Hz. By >> moving the freq value up and down, and change the threshold until it is >> touched by the music, you’ll get a picture of how loud the music is in >> different freq ranges for this song. >> >> Does this make sense? ;) >> >> Best, >> John André >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:37, John André Lium-Netland >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Some great news today: >> Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, >> TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible >> meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 >> if you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro >> Tools/VoiceOver/Mac and other DAWs and platforms. >> >> Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed >> AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will >> work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. >> >> They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. >> >> I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my >> request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other accessible >> meters that does all this. The
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
As a workaround, you can use the Strip Silence dialog to set a threshold and temporarily strip away everything except for whatever crosses above the threshold and simply use the tab key to move to and play only the loudest sections of the file and look at the peak meter. If, say, you know that the average level hovers around -12 dB, setting a threshold for -5 dB would surely capture a handful of peaks. the lower the threshold, the more you'll have to tab through so it's a little guessing game but it does get the job done if that's what you need to do. > On Oct 26, 2018, at 12:04 PM, John Covici wrote: > > Thanks for your response. > > But that still does not tell me where it is in the file which I would > really like to know. > > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:23:37 -0400, > John André Lium-Netland wrote: >> >> I see your point…. Not sure if there is such a tool available, but for >> shorter audio, I would reset the peak meter for the master inside of PT and >> play the whole file. If the meter is set correctly in the preferences, it >> will show the highest level obtained when finished. >> >> On 26 Oct 2018, at 16:13, John Covici wrote: >> >> Now if only there were a way to find the maximum volume in a file, >> maybe n hour or two, that would be very nice. And I don't want to >> play the whole thing to find out! >> >> >> On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:06:39 -0400, >> John André Lium-Netland wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak >>> meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, >>> I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for >>> these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your >>> startup drive. >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. >>> So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if >>> you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB RMS, >>> or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you aim >>> for and raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by the >>> music. For some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make sure the >>> dynamic range of your song, that is the difference between the loudest and >>> the most silent parts of your song, is not more than for example 8 dB. You >>> can check this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you >>> aim for as the highest loudness, and then play the most silent parts of >>> your song. If the threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing >>> that issue by using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in >>> the song. >>> >>> I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify >>> this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types >>> and different situations. but you might of course create such presets >>> yourself in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. >>> >>> If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different >>> parts in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you hear >>> the threshold value is touched by the music. >>> >>> If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the >>> threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. >>> >>> The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a >>> freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the music >>> is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set the freq >>> to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched at a >>> certain value, you know that this is the volume between 1000 and 1500 Hz. >>> By moving the freq value up and down, and change the threshold until it is >>> touched by the music, you’ll get a picture of how loud the music is in >>> different freq ranges for this song. >>> >>> Does this make sense? ;) >>> >>> Best, >>> John André >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:37, John André Lium-Netland >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Some great news today: >>> Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, >>> TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible >>> meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 >>> if you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro >>> Tools/VoiceOver/Mac and other DAWs and platforms. >>> >>> Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed >>> AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will >>> work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. >>> >>> They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. >>> >>> I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my >>> request for some accessible meters.
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Sorry, I said Normalize but I meant the Gain plug-in, under the Audio Suite menu. > On Oct 26, 2018, at 12:06 PM, John Covici wrote: > > If its the plugin which comes with pt, I don't see an annalyze > button. What am I missing here? > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 11:20:40 -0400, > Slau Halatyn wrote: >> >> You can use the Normalize plug-in, press the Analyze button and read the >> result with VOCR. >>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 10:13 AM, John Covici wrote: >>> >>> Now if only there were a way to find the maximum volume in a file, >>> maybe n hour or two, that would be very nice. And I don't want to >>> play the whole thing to find out! >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:06:39 -0400, >>> John André Lium-Netland wrote: Hi, I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your startup drive. Hi, Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB RMS, or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you aim for and raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by the music. For some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make sure the dynamic range of your song, that is the difference between the loudest and the most silent parts of your song, is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as the highest loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If the threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types and different situations. but you might of course create such presets yourself in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different parts in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you hear the threshold value is touched by the music. If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the music is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set the freq to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched at a certain value, you know that this is the volume between 1000 and 1500 Hz. By moving the freq value up and down, and change the threshold until it is touched by the music, you’ll get a picture of how loud the music is in different freq ranges for this song. Does this make sense? ;) Best, John André On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:37, John André Lium-Netland wrote: Hi, Some great news today: Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 if you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac and other DAWs and platforms. Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other accessible meters that does all this. The products can be downloaded free of charge from TBProAudio here: https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/download.html Look for the AccessiblePeakMeter2, and the accessible spectrum analyser. The products are calibrated for 0 dB FS, so no further calibration is needed. I’m working on a set of presets that will speed up the setup of different meters for different situations. I’ll share them when I have done some testing. Hope this will help others as well! Best,
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
If its the plugin which comes with pt, I don't see an annalyze button. What am I missing here? On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 11:20:40 -0400, Slau Halatyn wrote: > > You can use the Normalize plug-in, press the Analyze button and read the > result with VOCR. > > On Oct 26, 2018, at 10:13 AM, John Covici wrote: > > > > Now if only there were a way to find the maximum volume in a file, > > maybe n hour or two, that would be very nice. And I don't want to > > play the whole thing to find out! > > > > > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:06:39 -0400, > > John André Lium-Netland wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak > >> meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, > >> I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for > >> these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your > >> startup drive. > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. > >> So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if > >> you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB > >> RMS, or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you > >> aim for and raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by > >> the music. For some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make > >> sure the dynamic range of your song, that is the difference between the > >> loudest and the most silent parts of your song, is not more than for > >> example 8 dB. You can check this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB > >> lower than what you aim for as the highest loudness, and then play the > >> most silent parts of your song. If the threshold is not touched here, you > >> might consider fixing that issue by using automation or compression to > >> even out the dynamics in the song. > >> > >> I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify > >> this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types > >> and different situations. but you might of course create such presets > >> yourself in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. > >> > >> If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different > >> parts in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you > >> hear the threshold value is touched by the music. > >> > >> If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the > >> threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. > >> > >> The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a > >> freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the > >> music is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set > >> the freq to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched > >> at a certain value, you know that this is the volume between 1000 and 1500 > >> Hz. By moving the freq value up and down, and change the threshold until > >> it is touched by the music, you’ll get a picture of how loud the music is > >> in different freq ranges for this song. > >> > >> Does this make sense? ;) > >> > >> Best, > >> John André > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:37, John André Lium-Netland > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Some great news today: > >> Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, > >> TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an > >> accessible meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for > >> K12/K14/K20 if you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro > >> Tools/VoiceOver/Mac and other DAWs and platforms. > >> > >> Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed > >> AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will > >> work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. > >> > >> They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. > >> > >> I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my > >> request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other > >> accessible meters that does all this. The products can be downloaded free > >> of charge from TBProAudio here: > >> > >> https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/download.html > >> > >> Look for the AccessiblePeakMeter2, and the accessible spectrum analyser. > >> The products are calibrated for 0 dB FS, so no further calibration is > >> needed. I’m working on a set of presets that will speed up the setup of > >> different meters for different situations. I’ll share them when I have > >> done some testing. > >> > >> Hope this will help others as well! > >> > >> Best, > >> John André > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Pro Tools Accessibility"
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Thanks for your response. But that still does not tell me where it is in the file which I would really like to know. On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:23:37 -0400, John André Lium-Netland wrote: > > I see your point…. Not sure if there is such a tool available, but for > shorter audio, I would reset the peak meter for the master inside of PT and > play the whole file. If the meter is set correctly in the preferences, it > will show the highest level obtained when finished. > > On 26 Oct 2018, at 16:13, John Covici wrote: > > Now if only there were a way to find the maximum volume in a file, > maybe n hour or two, that would be very nice. And I don't want to > play the whole thing to find out! > > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:06:39 -0400, > John André Lium-Netland wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak > > meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, > > I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for > > these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your > > startup drive. > > > > Hi, > > > > Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. > > So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if > > you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB RMS, > > or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you aim > > for and raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by the > > music. For some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make sure the > > dynamic range of your song, that is the difference between the loudest and > > the most silent parts of your song, is not more than for example 8 dB. You > > can check this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you > > aim for as the highest loudness, and then play the most silent parts of > > your song. If the threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing > > that issue by using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in > > the song. > > > > I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify > > this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types > > and different situations. but you might of course create such presets > > yourself in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. > > > > If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different > > parts in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you hear > > the threshold value is touched by the music. > > > > If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the > > threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. > > > > The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a > > freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the music > > is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set the freq > > to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched at a > > certain value, you know that this is the volume between 1000 and 1500 Hz. > > By moving the freq value up and down, and change the threshold until it is > > touched by the music, you’ll get a picture of how loud the music is in > > different freq ranges for this song. > > > > Does this make sense? ;) > > > > Best, > > John André > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:37, John André Lium-Netland > > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Some great news today: > > Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, > > TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible > > meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 > > if you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro > > Tools/VoiceOver/Mac and other DAWs and platforms. > > > > Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed > > AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will > > work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. > > > > They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. > > > > I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my > > request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other accessible > > meters that does all this. The products can be downloaded free of charge > > from TBProAudio here: > > > > https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/download.html > > > > Look for the AccessiblePeakMeter2, and the accessible spectrum analyser. > > The products are calibrated for 0 dB FS, so no further calibration is > > needed. I’m working on a set of presets that will speed up the setup of > > different meters for different situations. I’ll share them when I have done > > some testing. > > > > Hope this will help others as well! > > > > Best, > > John André > > > > > > > > -- > > You
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
You can use the Normalize plug-in, press the Analyze button and read the result with VOCR. > On Oct 26, 2018, at 10:13 AM, John Covici wrote: > > Now if only there were a way to find the maximum volume in a file, > maybe n hour or two, that would be very nice. And I don't want to > play the whole thing to find out! > > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:06:39 -0400, > John André Lium-Netland wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak >> meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, >> I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for >> these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your >> startup drive. >> >> Hi, >> >> Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. >> So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if >> you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB RMS, >> or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you aim for >> and raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by the music. >> For some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make sure the dynamic >> range of your song, that is the difference between the loudest and the most >> silent parts of your song, is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check >> this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as >> the highest loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If >> the threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by >> using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. >> >> I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify >> this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types and >> different situations. but you might of course create such presets yourself >> in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. >> >> If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different parts >> in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you hear the >> threshold value is touched by the music. >> >> If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the >> threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. >> >> The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a >> freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the music >> is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set the freq >> to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched at a >> certain value, you know that this is the volume between 1000 and 1500 Hz. By >> moving the freq value up and down, and change the threshold until it is >> touched by the music, you’ll get a picture of how loud the music is in >> different freq ranges for this song. >> >> Does this make sense? ;) >> >> Best, >> John André >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:37, John André Lium-Netland >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Some great news today: >> Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, >> TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible >> meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 >> if you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro >> Tools/VoiceOver/Mac and other DAWs and platforms. >> >> Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed >> AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will >> work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. >> >> They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. >> >> I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my >> request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other accessible >> meters that does all this. The products can be downloaded free of charge >> from TBProAudio here: >> >> https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/download.html >> >> Look for the AccessiblePeakMeter2, and the accessible spectrum analyser. The >> products are calibrated for 0 dB FS, so no further calibration is needed. >> I’m working on a set of presets that will speed up the setup of different >> meters for different situations. I’ll share them when I have done some >> testing. >> >> Hope this will help others as well! >> >> Best, >> John André >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Hi, I'm also testing this great tools in other DAW and their very handy indeed. Thanks to the developers and John for sharing it with us. I'm still getting use to this technique of course. Allow me to point this out: I don’t have SoundForge install in my MacPro but on a Windows system, within SoundForge Tools Statistics when copy to clipboard offers the following as the example below: Cursor position (Time) 00:00:02,373 Sample value at cursor (dB) -17,951 Minimum sample position (Time) 00:00:11,942 Minimum sample value (dB) -0,901 Maximum sample position (Time) 00:00:08,476 Maximum sample value (dB)-0,175 RMS level (dB) -19,963 Average value (dB) -95,530 Zero crossings (Hz) 1.589,88 The End. If I remember well Audacity offers a handy Statistics chart as well. It would be great if Pro Tools offer this kind of accessible inscribe Statistics. I believe Logic Pro X don’t offer that also. Who knows if one day Peak 2 offer a copy or export Statistics to a text document! Grin. Regards, Rui Vilarinho - Original Message - From: "John André Lium-Netland" To: Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 3:23 PM Subject: Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge I see your point…. Not sure if there is such a tool available, but for shorter audio, I would reset the peak meter for the master inside of PT and play the whole file. If the meter is set correctly in the preferences, it will show the highest level obtained when finished. On 26 Oct 2018, at 16:13, John Covici wrote: Now if only there were a way to find the maximum volume in a file, maybe n hour or two, that would be very nice. And I don't want to play the whole thing to find out! On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:06:39 -0400, John André Lium-Netland wrote: Hi, I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your startup drive. Hi, Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB RMS, or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you aim for and raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by the music. For some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make sure the dynamic range of your song, that is the difference between the loudest and the most silent parts of your song, is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as the highest loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If the threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types and different situations. but you might of course create such presets yourself in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different parts in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you hear the threshold value is touched by the music. If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the music is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set the freq to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched at a certain value, you know that this is the volume between 1000 and 1500 Hz. By moving the freq value up and down, and change the threshold until it is touched by the music, you’ll get a picture of how loud the music is in different freq ranges for this song. Does this make sense? ;) Best, John André On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:37, John André Lium-Netland wrote: Hi, Some great news today: Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 if you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac and other DAWs and platforms. Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. They are also working on a possible idea for
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
I see your point…. Not sure if there is such a tool available, but for shorter audio, I would reset the peak meter for the master inside of PT and play the whole file. If the meter is set correctly in the preferences, it will show the highest level obtained when finished. On 26 Oct 2018, at 16:13, John Covici wrote: Now if only there were a way to find the maximum volume in a file, maybe n hour or two, that would be very nice. And I don't want to play the whole thing to find out! On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:06:39 -0400, John André Lium-Netland wrote: > > Hi, > > I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak > meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, I’ll > paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for these > plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your startup > drive. > > Hi, > > Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. So > that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if you > aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB RMS, or > -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you aim for and > raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by the music. For > some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make sure the dynamic > range of your song, that is the difference between the loudest and the most > silent parts of your song, is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check > this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as > the highest loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If > the threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by > using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. > > I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify > this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types and > different situations. but you might of course create such presets yourself in > Logic Pro or Pro Tools. > > If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different parts > in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you hear the > threshold value is touched by the music. > > If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the > threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. > > The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a > freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the music > is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set the freq > to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched at a certain > value, you know that this is the volume between 1000 and 1500 Hz. By moving > the freq value up and down, and change the threshold until it is touched by > the music, you’ll get a picture of how loud the music is in different freq > ranges for this song. > > Does this make sense? ;) > > Best, > John André > > > > > > > > > > > > On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:37, John André Lium-Netland > wrote: > > Hi, > > Some great news today: > Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, > TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible > meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 if > you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac > and other DAWs and platforms. > > Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed > AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will > work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. > > They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. > > I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my > request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other accessible > meters that does all this. The products can be downloaded free of charge from > TBProAudio here: > > https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/download.html > > Look for the AccessiblePeakMeter2, and the accessible spectrum analyser. The > products are calibrated for 0 dB FS, so no further calibration is needed. I’m > working on a set of presets that will speed up the setup of different meters > for different situations. I’ll share them when I have done some testing. > > Hope this will help others as well! > > Best, > John André > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Now if only there were a way to find the maximum volume in a file, maybe n hour or two, that would be very nice. And I don't want to play the whole thing to find out! On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 10:06:39 -0400, John André Lium-Netland wrote: > > Hi, > > I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak > meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, I’ll > paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for these > plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your startup > drive. > > Hi, > > Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. So > that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if you > aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB RMS, or > -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you aim for and > raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by the music. For > some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make sure the dynamic > range of your song, that is the difference between the loudest and the most > silent parts of your song, is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check > this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as > the highest loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If > the threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by > using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. > > I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify > this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types and > different situations. but you might of course create such presets yourself in > Logic Pro or Pro Tools. > > If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different parts > in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you hear the > threshold value is touched by the music. > > If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the > threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. > > The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a > freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the music > is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set the freq > to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched at a certain > value, you know that this is the volume between 1000 and 1500 Hz. By moving > the freq value up and down, and change the threshold until it is touched by > the music, you’ll get a picture of how loud the music is in different freq > ranges for this song. > > Does this make sense? ;) > > Best, > John André > > > > > > > > > > > > On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:37, John André Lium-Netland > wrote: > > Hi, > > Some great news today: > Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, > TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible > meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 if > you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac > and other DAWs and platforms. > > Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed > AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will > work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. > > They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. > > I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my > request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other accessible > meters that does all this. The products can be downloaded free of charge from > TBProAudio here: > > https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/download.html > > Look for the AccessiblePeakMeter2, and the accessible spectrum analyser. The > products are calibrated for 0 dB FS, so no further calibration is needed. I’m > working on a set of presets that will speed up the setup of different meters > for different situations. I’ll share them when I have done some testing. > > Hope this will help others as well! > > Best, > John André > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Hi, I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your startup drive. Hi, Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB RMS, or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you aim for and raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by the music. For some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make sure the dynamic range of your song, that is the difference between the loudest and the most silent parts of your song, is not more than for example 8 dB. You can check this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you aim for as the highest loudness, and then play the most silent parts of your song. If the threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing that issue by using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in the song. I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types and different situations. but you might of course create such presets yourself in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different parts in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you hear the threshold value is touched by the music. If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the music is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set the freq to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched at a certain value, you know that this is the volume between 1000 and 1500 Hz. By moving the freq value up and down, and change the threshold until it is touched by the music, you’ll get a picture of how loud the music is in different freq ranges for this song. Does this make sense? ;) Best, John André On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:37, John André Lium-Netland wrote: Hi, Some great news today: Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 if you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac and other DAWs and platforms. Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other accessible meters that does all this. The products can be downloaded free of charge from TBProAudio here: https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/download.html Look for the AccessiblePeakMeter2, and the accessible spectrum analyser. The products are calibrated for 0 dB FS, so no further calibration is needed. I’m working on a set of presets that will speed up the setup of different meters for different situations. I’ll share them when I have done some testing. Hope this will help others as well! Best, John André -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Hi, The new AccessiblePeakMeter2 is far better than the previous version, it’s built on the code from Queen Mary University, but now with the support for RMS, LUFS, VU and peak meter in one app. The new AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser is now compatible with Pro Tools, so should install as expected. By setting up presets for these plugins, one will have a great tool for many different tasks. I’ll share my own presets next week. Best, John André On 26 Oct 2018, at 13:34, Steve Sparrow wrote: I think this is the accessible peak metre I downloaded a year or so back. I assume they’ve probably updated it. I think at that time I couldn’t get the spectrum analyser to install or work or something like that. But i’m really interested to try it again, as it could come in very handy. I can see a good place for the accessible peak metre, But not really used it much. Steve > On 25 Oct 2018, at 6:29 pm, Rui Vilarinho wrote: > > Fantastic stuff. Thanks a bunch. > - Original Message - From: "John André Lium-Netland" > > To: "PT access group" > Cc: "TBProAudio" > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 1:37 PM > Subject: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible > spectrum analyser is here are of charge > > > Hi, > > Some great news today: > Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, > TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible > meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 if > you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac > and other DAWs and platforms. > > Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed > AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will > work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. > > They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. > > I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my > request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other accessible > meters that does all this. The products can be downloaded free of charge from > TBProAudio here: > > https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/download.html > > Look for the AccessiblePeakMeter2, and the accessible spectrum analyser. The > products are calibrated for 0 dB FS, so no further calibration is needed. I’m > working on a set of presets that will speed up the setup of different meters > for different situations. I’ll share them when I have done some testing. > > Hope this will help others as well! > > Best, > John André > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
I think this is the accessible peak metre I downloaded a year or so back. I assume they’ve probably updated it. I think at that time I couldn’t get the spectrum analyser to install or work or something like that. But i’m really interested to try it again, as it could come in very handy. I can see a good place for the accessible peak metre, But not really used it much. Steve > On 25 Oct 2018, at 6:29 pm, Rui Vilarinho wrote: > > Fantastic stuff. Thanks a bunch. > - Original Message - From: "John André Lium-Netland" > > To: "PT access group" > Cc: "TBProAudio" > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 1:37 PM > Subject: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible > spectrum analyser is here are of charge > > > Hi, > > Some great news today: > Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, > TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible > meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 if > you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac > and other DAWs and platforms. > > Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed > AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will > work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. > > They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. > > I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my > request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other accessible > meters that does all this. The products can be downloaded free of charge from > TBProAudio here: > > https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/download.html > > Look for the AccessiblePeakMeter2, and the accessible spectrum analyser. The > products are calibrated for 0 dB FS, so no further calibration is needed. I’m > working on a set of presets that will speed up the setup of different meters > for different situations. I’ll share them when I have done some testing. > > Hope this will help others as well! > > Best, > John André > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Fantastic stuff. Thanks a bunch. - Original Message - From: "John André Lium-Netland" To: "PT access group" Cc: "TBProAudio" Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 1:37 PM Subject: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge Hi, Some great news today: Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 if you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac and other DAWs and platforms. Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other accessible meters that does all this. The products can be downloaded free of charge from TBProAudio here: https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/download.html Look for the AccessiblePeakMeter2, and the accessible spectrum analyser. The products are calibrated for 0 dB FS, so no further calibration is needed. I’m working on a set of presets that will speed up the setup of different meters for different situations. I’ll share them when I have done some testing. Hope this will help others as well! Best, John André -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Hi Stefan, There are 2 tables on the page, you’ll find the AccessiblePeakMeter2 and the AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser as the two last products in the first table. If you use the item chooser and write “accessible”, you should get them listed. Best, John André On 24 Oct 2018, at 21:51, 'Stefan Albertshauser' via Pro Tools Accessibility wrote: Hi, Great, but I don’t find the accessible peak meter 2 download, even when I do a voiceover screen search. Thanks Stefan > Am 24.10.2018 um 14:37 schrieb John André Lium-Netland > : > > Hi, > > Some great news today: > Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, > TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible > meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 if > you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac > and other DAWs and platforms. > > Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed > AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will > work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. > > They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. > > I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my > request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other accessible > meters that does all this. The products can be downloaded free of charge from > TBProAudio here: > > https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/download.html > > Look for the AccessiblePeakMeter2, and the accessible spectrum analyser. The > products are calibrated for 0 dB FS, so no further calibration is needed. I’m > working on a set of presets that will speed up the setup of different meters > for different situations. I’ll share them when I have done some testing. > > Hope this will help others as well! > > Best, > John André > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Hi, Great, but I don’t find the accessible peak meter 2 download, even when I do a voiceover screen search. Thanks Stefan > Am 24.10.2018 um 14:37 schrieb John André Lium-Netland > : > > Hi, > > Some great news today: > Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, > TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible > meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 if > you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac > and other DAWs and platforms. > > Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed > AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will > work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. > > They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. > > I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my > request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other accessible > meters that does all this. The products can be downloaded free of charge from > TBProAudio here: > > https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/download.html > > Look for the AccessiblePeakMeter2, and the accessible spectrum analyser. The > products are calibrated for 0 dB FS, so no further calibration is needed. I’m > working on a set of presets that will speed up the setup of different meters > for different situations. I’ll share them when I have done some testing. > > Hope this will help others as well! > > Best, > John André > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Finally; An accessible RMS/LUFS/VU/peak meter and accessible spectrum analyser is here are of charge
Hi John. Thanks for this great news about metering software finally being accessible with voiceover!!! I will be forwarding this to my boss and other people at the postproduction company I work for. We use metering software all the time to analyze and set levels for programs, but some of our plug-ins however have not always been accessible. I hope this will make things much easier for blind engineers to accomplish this independently. I will check out the website. Thanks for the info! Katie Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 24, 2018, at 5:37 AM, John André Lium-Netland > wrote: > > Hi, > > Some great news today: > Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, > TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible > meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 if > you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac > and other DAWs and platforms. > > Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed > AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will > work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. > > They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. > > I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my > request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other accessible > meters that does all this. The products can be downloaded free of charge from > TBProAudio here: > > https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/download.html > > Look for the AccessiblePeakMeter2, and the accessible spectrum analyser. The > products are calibrated for 0 dB FS, so no further calibration is needed. I’m > working on a set of presets that will speed up the setup of different meters > for different situations. I’ll share them when I have done some testing. > > Hope this will help others as well! > > Best, > John André > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
