Re: [cabfpub] DNSSEC validation for CAA record lookup failure

2017-09-14 Thread Geoff Keating via Public
> On 14 Sep 2017, at 12:11 pm, Wayne Thayer via Public > wrote: > > Thanks Geoff. To be clear, does your proposed language require > ‘authentication of an NSEC RRset that proves that no DS RRset is present for > this zone’ in order to meet the new condition of the last item, or can an > una

Re: [cabfpub] DNSSEC validation for CAA record lookup failure

2017-09-14 Thread Geoff Keating via Public
> On Sep 14, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Peter Bowen wrote: > > >> On Sep 14, 2017, at 10:02 AM, Geoff Keating via Public >> wrote: >> >> At the moment the BRs say: >> >> CAs are permitted to treat a record lookup failure as permission to issue if: >> >> the failure is outside the CA's infrastructu

Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 214: CAA Discovery CNAME Errata

2017-09-14 Thread philliph--- via Public
I had thought I had covered this with deft choice of the normative language in the errata. Seems not. We can allow following the errata as soon as the ballot takes effect. How long before phasing out? 3 months? > On Sep 14, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Tim Hollebeek via Public > wrote: > > To allow f

Re: [cabfpub] DNSSEC validation for CAA record lookup failure

2017-09-14 Thread Peter Bowen via Public
> On Sep 14, 2017, at 10:02 AM, Geoff Keating via Public > wrote: > > At the moment the BRs say: > > CAs are permitted to treat a record lookup failure as permission to issue if: > > the failure is outside the CA's infrastructure; > > the lookup has been retried at least once; and > > the d

Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 214: CAA Discovery CNAME Errata

2017-09-14 Thread Tim Hollebeek via Public
To allow for a reasonable transition, shouldn’t the ballot allow RFC 6844 either with or without the errata, and have a sunset date for the non-errata version? -Tim From: Public [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Hoffman-Andrews via Public Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 20

Re: [cabfpub] Voting has started on Ballot 190

2017-09-14 Thread Frank Corday via Public
Trustwave votes YES to Ballot 190 From: Public [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Kirk Hall via Public Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 6:01 AM To: CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List mailto:public@cabforum.org>> Subject: [EXTERNAL][cabfpub] Two amendments to Ballot 190 The p

Re: [cabfpub] DNSSEC validation for CAA record lookup failure

2017-09-14 Thread Wayne Thayer via Public
Thanks Geoff. To be clear, does your proposed language require ‘authentication of an NSEC RRset that proves that no DS RRset is present for this zone’ in order to meet the new condition of the last item, or can an unauthenticated query that returns no DS record be used to meet this condition? If

[cabfpub] DNSSEC validation for CAA record lookup failure

2017-09-14 Thread Geoff Keating via Public
At the moment the BRs say: CAs are permitted to treat a record lookup failure as permission to issue if: the failure is outside the CA's infrastructure; the lookup has been retried at least once; and the domain's zone does not have a DNSSEC validation chain to the ICANN root. I suggest replac

Re: [cabfpub] Voting has started on Ballot 190

2017-09-14 Thread Neil Dunbar via Public
TrustCor votes YES on Ballot 190. Neil > On 12 Sep 2017, at 23:23, Kirk Hall via Public wrote: > > Voting has started on Ballot 190 as proposed on Sept 5 (see bottom of this > message, and attachments), as amended by my email from Sept. 11 (see > immediately below). Voting runs through Sept.

[cabfpub] Policy Review WG proposal for clarifying the term "CA"

2017-09-14 Thread Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Public
All, The Policy Review Working Group has been reviewing the use of the term "Certification Authority" in the BRs and is now considering adopting a use of the term "Trust Service Provider", which is included in ISO 21188 (referenced by WebTrust for CAs) and ETSI definitions.  In general, the t

Re: [cabfpub] Voting has started on Ballot 190

2017-09-14 Thread Gervase Markham via Public
On 12/09/17 23:23, Kirk Hall via Public wrote: > Voting has started on Ballot 190 as proposed on Sept 5 (see bottom of > this message, and attachments), as amended by my email from Sept. 11 > (see immediately below).  Voting runs through Sept. 19 at 18:00 UTC. Mozilla votes YES. Gerv ___

[cabfpub] Obtaining an EV cert for phishing

2017-09-14 Thread Gervase Markham via Public
As noted in the Paypal/Let's Encrypt meeting yesterday, James Burton has published a blog post claiming that it's not difficult to get a fraudulent EV certificate: https://0.me.uk/ev-phishing/ Now, they didn't actually get a fraudulent one, and it did take them a few days and a reasonable amount o

Re: [cabfpub] Voting has started on Ballot 190

2017-09-14 Thread Doug Beattie via Public
GlobalSign votes Yes on Ballot 190. From: Public [mailto:public-boun...@cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Kirk Hall via Public Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 6:23 PM To: CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List Subject: [cabfpub] Voting has started on Ballot 190 Voting has started on Ballot 190 as