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No doubt those in the employ of big business would come out with a different
story.
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Here are a few useful links on MAI
This is the OECD's MAI site
http://www.oecd.org/daf/cmis/mai/maindex.htm
http://www.oecd.org/daf/cmis/mai/sgngo.htm
Joint NGOs statement.
http://www.canadians.org/ngostatement.html
David McMullen
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Melbourne, Australia
[AA]
Was there a special reason why you were using a US service provider?
[AL]
Common practice (many .au sites are actually hosted from US even if the
web space is sold by Australian resellers and the owner doesn't know)
- much cheaper there due to Telstra's crushing access charges and
"mass
Hi Neither People,
Regrettably, the future of your organization looks pretty bleak if my
experience is any guide.
Before the recent election I sent several e-mails to your mailing address
offering to help send a few more visitors to your website by featuring it in
an Aussie online magazine I
At 16:28 13/10/98 +1000, one xerro wrote:
If any new south welshmen/women would like to start a branch I am eager
to get one going. It is questionable as to how much I am capable of doing
as I live and at university in Armidale in the states north but in this
day and age I doubt this poses too
Albert wrote:
A fight to "smash the two party system" requires reasons for opposing
the two parties that can mobilize people to actually smash them. The
mere "desirability" of PR is not enough. In putting forward reasons we
have to express an "attitude" towards political issues, even if we don't
I understand that the Labor and Liberal Parties are ganging up for a
referendum to reduce the size of the NSW Upper House, presumably so that
two-party ("bipartisan") control is consolidated. (Shades of Tasmania?).
Tinkering with representative systems is perfectly acceptable if it
strengthens
Pauline Hanson is visiting a school. In one class, she asks the students if anyone can
give her an example of a "tragedy".
One little boy stands up and offers that "If my best friend who lives next door was
playing in the street when a car came along and killed him,that would be a tragedy."
Brian jenkins wrote:
David, please, no dummy-spitting yet! We just got started on this!
I haven't spat it yet Brian, but thought it fair to point out what will
happen if Albert's proposal to put One Nation last should ever become
Neither policy.
I resisted a lot of 'peer' pressure to join in
As may or may not be obvious the Neither web site both the technical
side and the content side are not being maintained as well as they
should be.
Some of this is lack of time and some of it a lack of knowledge. Because
of this it has been proposed that 2 groups be formed, one to deal with
This is the breeding groung for 'nutting' out
ideas and hopefully, soon, prepolling strongly debated issues.
Marco
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I agree, but the nature of the Australian electorates will hardly change,
even in the next millennium, if they continue to read corporate media
'news'papers and watch their propaganda on the Tunnel Vision.
-Original Message-
From: alister air [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Albert wrote:
It is logically possible for Neither to
become an organization which includes both One Nation supporters
and people "on the left" united solely by its core principles of
opposition to the ALP and Coalition two party state and its objective of
achieving PR. This thread is largely
At 18:52 23/10/98 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) Start a subject thread on "NSW" in this public-list
Ask, and it shall be done :-)
OK, for those interested/resident in NSW, may I suggest the following:
We try to look at local branches? Perhaps a Sydney one, or maybe an
inner-Sydney one,
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Proposed Structure of the New (improved?) Neither Web Site
(** as this is in plain text you may need to maximise the size of this
window to make sense of the tabbing i've used)
Basic Structure
Start Page (neither homepage)
links to:
Election '98--these first
The description of Neither! given on its website is:
Neither! is a broad coalition of people and groups fighting for
Proportional Representation in Australia. We seek to smash the two party
system.
Whilst I support smashing the two party system, I need convincing that
Proportional
The butt of the joke could equally be Little 'honest' flak-jak johnnie,
blubber-guts Beasley, or any of the other dead-heads the dead-heads elect
(or think they do).
Are you trying again to divert the topic to anything else but getting rid of
the dictatorship? Perhaps we can start some Jew or
I apologise for delaying my answer to the request on this list for more
information but have been checking back with the source. Here's the
available info:
The reduction in size of the NSW Upper House is at this stage no
more than a gleam in the eyes of Labor and Liberal who are
[G]
Please assign the candidates according to how you feel about them. Give
them a rating of 1 (or 0) if you dont like them to 10 to give full
support. [...]
How is this counted? All the numbers are added together for each party.
Preferencial voting would have to be scrapped in the senate
[AA]
Fair enough. I take your points, but respectfully disagree with all
except
the Queensland Liberals working with One Nation in a State govt
coalition
(and where the DLP etc came from). I don't really wish to argue it now,
if
that's OK, because we've got more important things to discuss (as
[KL]
By the way, the best way to reply to the *whole list* is to click on
your "RE: ALL" button. If you just click on "RE: MAIL" your reply will
go ONLY to the person who wrote the message that you are replying to.
[AL]
In light of recent experience (especially Omega ;-) I would like to add
the
Neither doesn't have a policy on what voting system it prefers. My
understanding is that neither at the minute opposes the two party system and
this is the only requirement for membership. I want a system that opens up
the political arena. When neither votes and adopts a system I can't see why
it
[AA]
At 23:19 26/10/98 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Seems to me a different question entirely. How about this?
"Neither rejects as criminal any attempt to coerce voters to vote in
support
of candidates who they choose to vote against, regardless of whether
such
criminal coercion is disguised
[DG]
Albert's reasoning (see his posting) makes a lot of sense. Why do half
a
job when there's a prospect of doing the whole job? I know the
Australian
Democrats have a policy favouring PR and another policy (buried in the
fine
print but not pressed by their parliamentary wing) favouring
[GD]
As for whether you should be 'democratic', I don't see why you'd want
to be. You are a very specificly targetted group, with relatively clear
goals (so long as you don't try to diversify into general political
issues, which would be a mistake.) Just do it. Anyone who doesn't
agree with your
On the subject of the paradoxes of various voting systems; chapter 12 (Is
Democracy Mathematically Unsound?) of Paul Hoffmans [anti-apostrophe] book:
Archimedes Revenge. ISBN 0 14 012506 X, is an excellent place to start.
There are many references to other publications for the serious
[BJ]
I'll be available to help in WA. Just now, I'm up to my ears in the MAI
campaign.
[AL]
Great! So far we've got potential organizers for WA, SA, Sydney and
Armidale.
[BJ]
In case you guys have not seen it, I'm attaching a sign-on letter which
is
self-explanatory.
Please endorse it
"Neither rejects as criminal any attempt to coerce voters to vote in
support
of candidates who they choose to vote against, regardless of whether
such
criminal coercion is disguised as requirements to not use repeated
preference
numbers or by other means."
The above has my vote.
-Original
Paul wrote:
"If we keep the exchange of ideas going, if we can focus on achievable
stuff which we enjoy doing and which satisfies the yen we all have in
the here and now to make as much trouble as possible for the reactionary
farts who run the system, then most of us will have a sufficient pay
[KL]
I think that now the election is over we need to open up a much wider
discussion on the role of Neither! Of course this should have happened
BEFORE the election . However it's no use regretting this. In
particular, I'd like to know whether people think that Neither should
see itself as
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