CFP: SemStats 2013 @ ISWC 2013 --deadline 12 July

2013-06-20 Thread Ghislain Atemezing
[[Apologies for cross-posting]] = First International Workshop on Semantic Statistics (SemStats 2013) Full-Day Workshop in conjunction with ISWC 2013, the 12th International Semantic Web Conference 21-25 October 2013,

Re: RDF, Linked Data etc : please ping me when it's over ...

2013-06-20 Thread Courtney, Paul K.
+1 :~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~: Paul K. Courtney, MS Applications Specialist/Biomedical Informaticist Information Systems Dana-Farber Cancer Institute T: 617.582.7389 C: 603.727.8171 F: 617.632.4030 On 6/19/13 8:44 AM, Bernard Vatant

2nd CfP: ISWC workshop on Uncertainty Reasoning for the Semantic Web (URSW'13)

2013-06-20 Thread Nickles, Matthias
--- CALL FOR PAPERS 9th International Workshop on Uncertainty Reasoning for the Semantic Web http://c4i.gmu.edu/ursw/2013 In conjunction with the 12th International Semantic Web Conference (ISWC'13) Sydney, Australia October 21-22, 2013

Linked Prolog

2013-06-20 Thread William Waites
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 01:28:54 +, エリクソン トーレ t-eriks...@so.taisho.co.jp said: ex:distance ex:earth ex:moon 381550 25150 u:km. (Ab)using RDF I was able to (barely) document my semantics directly in turtle. Where is the semantics and syntax of your example described? Your

A practical way forward for Linked Data

2013-06-20 Thread Richard Light
On 19/06/2013 15:19, Dominic Oldman wrote: When Hugh talks about sharing a particular view I also think about the need to share particular objectives, and a particular vision, and match this with a practical way forward. When Hugh talks about widening of issues I think about how we are ever

Re: Proof: Linked Data does not require RDF

2013-06-20 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 6/19/13 6:44 PM, Damian Steer wrote: On 19 Jun 2013, at 23:25, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: To be more precise, Uh-huh. relative to basic Linked Data, inference and reasoning are distinguishing RDF features. s/RDF/Semantic web/ and you might well be right. If not,

Re: 返: Proof: Linked Data does not require RDF

2013-06-20 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 6/19/13 9:03 PM, エリクソン トーレ wrote: 差出人: Kingsley Idehen [mailto:kide...@openlinksw.com] 送信日時: 2013年6月20日 6:37 On 6/19/13 3:41 PM, David Booth wrote: On 06/19/2013 02:29 AM, エリクソン トーレ wrote: My point was that even if the data producer doesn't know anything about RDF, when applying the meme he

Re: Proof: Linked Data does not require RDF

2013-06-20 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 6/19/13 10:47 PM, Young,Jeff (OR) wrote: My impression is that Kingsley is arguing that triples is triples. Concrete syntax is irrelevant, even if those triples are barely recognizable by naive agents. If that's what he's saying, I would agree. Converting barely recognizable triples into a

Biomedical Question Answering Workshop CfP

2013-06-20 Thread Axel Ngonga
Apologies for multiple postings. === BioASQ Workshop Website: http://www.bioasq.org/news/bioasq-workshop Project URL: http://www.bioasq.org/ Post-conference workshop after CLEF 2013, September 27, Valencia, Spain

Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Courtney, Paul K.
To be honest, this entire thread has reminded me of the lengthy threads on the ontolog listserv that finally caused me to unsubscribe. I could not characterize those threads as discussions because so many of the participants were actually talking past each other and were making assertions based

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 20 June 2013 15:37, Courtney, Paul K. paul_court...@dfci.harvard.eduwrote: To be honest, this entire thread has reminded me of the lengthy threads on the ontolog listserv that finally caused me to unsubscribe. I could not characterize those threads as discussions because so many of the

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 6/20/13 9:37 AM, Courtney, Paul K. wrote: Seems the same was happening here. I gather that Kingsley was attempting to ensure that we don’t forget that the roots of RDF and triples goes way back to early work on E-R diagrams. Yes. My fundamental point is that RDF has generated bad-will

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Luca Matteis
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Melvin Carvalho melvincarva...@gmail.comwrote: Restate/reflect ideas that in other posts that are troubling/puzzling and ask for confirmation or clarification. I am simply confused with the idea brought forward by Kingsley that RDF is *not* part of the

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 6/20/13 11:45 AM, Luca Matteis wrote: On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Melvin Carvalho melvincarva...@gmail.com mailto:melvincarva...@gmail.com wrote: # Restate/reflect ideas that in other posts that are troubling/puzzling and ask for confirmation or clarification. I am simply

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Luca Matteis
Kingsley, nothing you just said in reply to my statement has to do with the *definition* of Linked Data, which is what I was discussing. It's not really productive to quote people's statements, and answer with something entirely unrelated. I understand what RDF is and what it allows you to do

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Stephane Fellah
Hi, I agree with Luca's viewpoint. The W3C standard RDF model (a.k.a triple model) is one of most fundamental piece of the technology stack defining Linked Data (along with URIs and HTTP). I think it is important to make understand the community that Linked Data can be serialized into different

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Giovanni Tummarello
My 2c is .. i agree with kingsley diagram , linked data should be possible without RDF (no matter serialization) :) however this is different from previous definitions i think its a step forward.. but it is different from previously. Do we want to call it Linked Data 2.0? under this definition

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Pat Hayes
On Jun 20, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Giovanni Tummarello wrote: My 2c is .. i agree with kingsley diagram , linked data should be possible without RDF (no matter serialization) :) however this is different from previous definitions i think its a step forward.. but it is different from

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Giovanni Tummarello
Not implying that, i'd hope RDF can represent all really but RDF would not be needed for linked data while an RDF description even alone lonely on the web could be called Linked Data (if it uses URIs) GIo On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Pat Hayes pha...@ihmc.us wrote: On Jun 20, 2013, at

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 6/20/13 12:50 PM, Stephane Fellah wrote: Hi, I agree with Luca's viewpoint. The W3C standard RDF model (a.k.a triple model) is one of most fundamental piece of the technology stack defining Linked Data (along with URIs and HTTP). I am not disputing that point. Here's what in dispute,

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 6/20/13 12:54 PM, Giovanni Tummarello wrote: My 2c is .. i agree with kingsley diagram , linked data should be possible without RDF (no matter serialization) :) however this is different from previous definitions i think its a step forward.. but it is different from previously. Do we want

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 6/20/13 12:49 PM, Luca Matteis wrote: Kingsley, nothing you just said in reply to my statement has to do with the *definition* of Linked Data, which is what I was discussing. It's not really productive to quote people's statements, and answer with something entirely unrelated. I

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Pat Hayes
Kingsley, long story short, what you mean when you say linked data is not exactly what most other people mean when they say those words. Your understanding of what they mean is much wider and more all-encompassing than the common meaning. Personally, I see what you are getting at and (I think)

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Ted Thibodeau Jr
On Jun 20, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Luca Matteis wrote: On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Melvin Carvalho melvincarva...@gmail.com wrote: • Restate/reflect ideas that in other posts that are troubling/puzzling and ask for confirmation or clarification. I am simply confused with the idea

[ANN] Public release of Glimmer RDF search engine and demo

2013-06-20 Thread Peter Mika
(apologies for cross-posting) All, The Semantic Search research group at Yahoo! Labs is pleased to announce the open-source code release and public demo of Glimmer, a search engine for RDF data. Glimmer, the search engine [1] provides support for offline distributed indexing of RDF data using

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 6/20/13 1:05 PM, Pat Hayes wrote: On Jun 20, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Giovanni Tummarello wrote: My 2c is .. i agree with kingsley diagram , linked data should be possible without RDF (no matter serialization) :) however this is different from previous definitions i think its a step forward..

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Stephane Fellah
Kingsley, On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.comwrote: On 6/20/13 12:50 PM, Stephane Fellah wrote: Hi, I agree with Luca's viewpoint. The W3C standard RDF model (a.k.a triple model) is one of most fundamental piece of the technology stack defining

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread David Booth
On 06/20/2013 12:54 PM, Giovanni Tummarello wrote: My 2c is .. i agree with kingsley diagram , linked data should be possible without RDF (no matter serialization) :) however this is different from previous definitions Remember: if the data is not standards-based interpretable as RDF (though

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread David Booth
On 06/20/2013 12:50 PM, Stephane Fellah wrote: Hi, I agree with Luca's viewpoint. The W3C standard RDF model (a.k.a triple model) is one of most fundamental piece of the technology stack defining Linked Data (along with URIs and HTTP). I think it is important to make understand the community

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 6/20/13 1:46 PM, Pat Hayes wrote: Kingsley, long story short, what you mean when you say linked data is not exactly what most other people mean when they say those words. Your understanding of what they mean is much wider and more all-encompassing than the common meaning. Personally, I see

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Jürgen Jakobitsch SWC
On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 14:09 -0400, Ted Thibodeau Jr wrote: On Jun 20, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Luca Matteis wrote: On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Melvin Carvalho melvincarva...@gmail.com wrote: • Restate/reflect ideas that in other posts that are troubling/puzzling and ask for

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 20 June 2013 19:46, Pat Hayes pha...@ihmc.us wrote: Kingsley, long story short, what you mean when you say linked data is not exactly what most other people mean when they say those words. Your understanding of what they mean is much wider and more all-encompassing than the common meaning.

CFP (II): 6th International Workshop on Semantic Sensor Networks (SSN 2013). Submission is July 12.

2013-06-20 Thread Oscar Corcho
Apologies for cross-postings. *** ** Call For Papers 6th International Workshop on Semantic Sensor Networks in conjunction with the 12th International

Re: Linked Data discussions require better communication

2013-06-20 Thread David Booth
On 06/20/2013 04:46 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: It's taken 5 years+ to simplify things down to the Linked Data meme (The semantic web done right) and is starting to gain some traction. [ . . . ] The beauty of of LD is that it's simple and can be understood by a wide range or people (especially

linking data using a different conceptual framework Was does linked data need RDF?

2013-06-20 Thread ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program
When we define data in terms of source, intellectual properties attached, usage licenses and some additional we may be able to define isomorphic or homomorphic definitions similar to Linked Data with RDF as key instrument. Increasingly data is ported over mobile and wireless networks which