Re: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-14 Thread Gregg Reynolds
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:20 PM, David Booth da...@dbooth.org wrote: Original Message Subject: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*! Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:19:27 -0400 From: David Booth da...@dbooth.org To: community, Linked public-lod@w3.org

Re: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-14 Thread Bernard Vatant
...@mobileink.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:20 PM, David Booth da...@dbooth.org wrote: Original Message Subject: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*! Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:19:27 -0400 From: David Booth da...@dbooth.org To: community, Linked public-lod@w3.org

Re: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-14 Thread Sarven Capadisli
On 06/13/2013 07:19 PM, David Booth wrote: [Sidebar: A term of art is A word or phrase that has special meaning in a particular context. (The Free Dictionary)] A heated debate has been raging about the accepted meaning of the term Linked Data in the context of the Semantic Web community --

Re: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-14 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 6/14/13 12:53 AM, David Booth wrote: ot RDF) is going to accomplish. I have to object to that statement, because the phrase 'other Linked Data technologies (that are not RDF)' already implies that Linked Data is *not* necessarily based on RDF, whereas that is the question that this

Re: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-14 Thread Ted Thibodeau Jr
David -- Without getting deeply into the current discussion... On Jun 14, 2013, at 12:53 AM, David Booth wrote: another case in point: I have multiple times seen the assertion that TimBL's original Linked Data document did not mention RDF, in spite of the fact that anyone who takes the time

Re: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-14 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 6/14/13 10:21 AM, Ted Thibodeau Jr wrote: David -- Without getting deeply into the current discussion... On Jun 14, 2013, at 12:53 AM, David Booth wrote: another case in point: I have multiple times seen the assertion that TimBL's original Linked Data document did not mention RDF, in

Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-13 Thread David Booth
[Sidebar: A term of art is A word or phrase that has special meaning in a particular context. (The Free Dictionary)] A heated debate has been raging about the accepted meaning of the term Linked Data in the context of the Semantic Web community -- whether or not this term implies the use of RDF.

Re: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-13 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 6/13/13 1:19 PM, David Booth wrote: [Sidebar: A term of art is A word or phrase that has special meaning in a particular context. (The Free Dictionary)] A heated debate has been raging about the accepted meaning of the term Linked Data in the context of the Semantic Web community -- whether

Re: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-13 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 13 June 2013 19:19, David Booth da...@dbooth.org wrote: [Sidebar: A term of art is A word or phrase that has special meaning in a particular context. (The Free Dictionary)] A heated debate has been raging about the accepted meaning of the term Linked Data in the context of the Semantic

Re: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-13 Thread Dave Longley
On 06/13/2013 01:20 PM, David Booth wrote: Original Message Subject: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*! Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:19:27 -0400 From: David Booth da...@dbooth.org To: community, Linked public-lod@w3.org The poll asks: In normal usage within

Re: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-13 Thread Nathan
David Booth wrote: A heated debate has been raging about the accepted meaning of the term Linked Data in the context of the Semantic Web community -- whether or not this term implies the use of RDF. Pointless, or are you going to do trademark the term and sue anybody who uses it to refer to

Re: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-13 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 6/13/13 3:19 PM, Luca Matteis wrote: On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com mailto:kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: If you want to resolve this matter, construct a poll where the question reflect the audience that has the problem. Why don't you tell

Re: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-13 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 13 June 2013 21:04, Norman Gray nor...@astro.gla.ac.uk wrote: Greetings. On 2013 Jun 13, at 19:36, Nathan nat...@webr3.org wrote: [reordered] So RDF may spring to mind when you say Linked Data, given it's so prevalent, but Linked Data refers to a set of things, RDF is just one of

Re: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-13 Thread Luca Matteis
Again, not sure what the big deal is. It's like asking: Does the term Web imply the use of CSS? Sure it does. It's an important part of the Web as it allows people to style their documents. So is RDF to Linked Data, as it allows people to represent data and make links to third-party data. On

Re: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-13 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 6/13/13 3:34 PM, Luca Matteis wrote: Again, not sure what the big deal is. It's like asking: Does the term Web imply the use of CSS? It doesn't. HTML, maybe-ish. Sure it does. It's an important part of the Web as it allows people to style their documents. See my comments above. The

Re: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-13 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 13 June 2013 21:34, Luca Matteis lmatt...@gmail.com wrote: Again, not sure what the big deal is. It's like asking: Does the term Web imply the use of CSS? Sure it does. It's an important part of the Web as it allows people to style their documents. So is RDF to Linked Data, as it allows

Re: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-13 Thread Manu Sporny
bcc: RDF WG *JSON-LD Chair hat on* David Booth wrote: In normal usage within the Semantic Web community, does the term Linked Data imply the use of RDF? David, I really wish you would have passed this poll by both the JSON-LD group and the RDF WG before sending it out so that we could have

Re: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-13 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 13 June 2013 21:38, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 6/13/13 3:34 PM, Luca Matteis wrote: Again, not sure what the big deal is. It's like asking: Does the term Web imply the use of CSS? It doesn't. HTML, maybe-ish. Sure it does. It's an important part of the Web as

Re: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-13 Thread David Booth
On 06/13/2013 03:28 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: I would *suggest* something that goes something like this: Does the term Linked Data imply the use of RDF? You need to specify the context or community in which the term is used. Otherwise the answers would meaningless. A term of art *always*

Re: Ending the Linked Data debate -- PLEASE VOTE *NOW*!

2013-06-13 Thread David Booth
Hi Manu, On 06/13/2013 03:50 PM, Manu Sporny wrote: bcc: RDF WG *JSON-LD Chair hat on* David Booth wrote: In normal usage within the Semantic Web community, does the term Linked Data imply the use of RDF? David, I really wish you would have passed this poll by both the JSON-LD group and