Re: PUBLINK Linked Data Consultancy

2010-10-07 Thread Dave Reynolds
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 01:38 +0200, Sören Auer wrote: On 07.10.2010 1:13, Georgi Kobilarov wrote: So, now the EU also takes that burden off the small linked data consultancies and businesses. Not at all! PUBLINK is not aimed at organizations which already precisely know what they want

Re: PUBLINK Linked Data Consultancy

2010-10-07 Thread Sören Auer
On 07.10.2010 9:57, Dave Reynolds wrote: Insofar PUBLINK rather clears the way for commercial linked data service providers. But is not working with any breadth of such providers. I share Georgi's reservations, seems like an odd direction for EU framework projects to take. Its not really a

Re: PUBLINK Linked Data Consultancy

2010-10-07 Thread Hugh Glaser
Clearly this is an exciting thing to be doing, but I couldn't let Sören's comments go :-) On 07/10/2010 08:57, Dave Reynolds dave.e.reyno...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 01:38 +0200, Sören Auer wrote: On 07.10.2010 1:13, Georgi Kobilarov wrote: So, now the EU also takes that burden

RE: PUBLINK Linked Data Consultancy

2010-10-07 Thread Michael Schneider
Sören Auer wrote: PS: Please also keep in mind that PUBLINK is very limited (max. 3-5 data owning organizations) and ca. 10 man days of support for each. I think those numbers are the really important bits. I have seen EU projects where there were plans to perform really huge field studies. I

Re: PUBLINK Linked Data Consultancy

2010-10-07 Thread Michael Smethurst
On 07/10/2010 11:58, Hugh Glaser h...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote: Clearly this is an exciting thing to be doing, but I couldn't let Sören's comments go :-) On 07/10/2010 08:57, Dave Reynolds dave.e.reyno...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 01:38 +0200, Sören Auer wrote: On 07.10.2010

Re: PUBLINK Linked Data Consultancy

2010-10-07 Thread Ian Davis
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Michael Schneider schn...@fzi.de wrote: Sören Auer wrote: PS: Please also keep in mind that PUBLINK is very limited (max. 3-5 data owning organizations) and ca. 10 man days of support for each. I think those numbers are the really important bits. I have seen EU

Call for Chapters: Linking Government Data

2010-10-07 Thread David Wood
Hi all, Please find below a Call for Chapters for a new contributed book to be entitled Linking_Government_Data. Please distribute this information as widely as possible to help us collect useful success stories, techniques and benefits to using Linked Data in governments. Thanks in advance.

RE: PUBLINK Linked Data Consultancy

2010-10-07 Thread Georgi Kobilarov
So, now the EU also takes that burden off the small linked data consultancies and businesses. Not at all! PUBLINK is not aimed at organizations which already precisely know what they want and are willing to pay for it. Oh yes, clients who precisely know what they want. Of course, how

RE: PUBLINK Linked Data Consultancy

2010-10-07 Thread Georgi Kobilarov
Hi Michael, Insofar PUBLINK rather clears the way for commercial linked data service providers. By doing what? Which bits does publink do and which bits are left to the commercial sector? From the lines above it aims to help people in organizations who want to persuade their decision

Re: PUBLINK Linked Data Consultancy

2010-10-07 Thread John Domingue
Sören, before you get too depressed with all this negativity . I'd just like to say that I for one think that this is a *great* idea and a very good use of EU project resources. Getting out there and helping to kick start more institutions to LoD is definitely the way to go with your

Re: overstock.com adds GoodRelations in RDFa to 900,000 item pages

2010-10-07 Thread Thomas Steiner
Hi Martin, We have discussed this off-list before, but maybe others would like to chime in... I don't think it is sad; because using invisible div / span elements nicely decouple the organization of the visual content from the embedded data. Martin, you never fail to hash-mark your

Reminder: Call for Use Cases: Library Linked Data

2010-10-07 Thread Antoine Isaac
[apologies for cross-posting] W3C Library Linked Data Incubator Group - http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/ Call for Use Cases: Library Linked Data Are you currently using linked data technology [1] for library-related data, or considering doing it in the near future? If so, please tell us

Re: overstock.com adds GoodRelations in RDFa to 900,000 item pages

2010-10-07 Thread Paul Houle
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Martin Hepp martin.h...@ebusiness-unibw.org wrote: It is too expensive to expect data owners to lift their existing data to academic expectations. You must empower them to preserve as much data semantics and data structure as they can provide ad hoc. Lifting

Re: Call for Chapters: Linking Government Data

2010-10-07 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 10/7/10 10:02 AM, David Wood wrote: Hi all, Please find below a Call for Chapters for a new contributed book to be entitled Linking_Government_Data. Please distribute this information as widely as possible to help us collect useful success stories, techniques and benefits to using

Re: Call for Chapters: Linking Government Data

2010-10-07 Thread John Erickson
Will all due respect, as with any monograph this is a call to *contribute*; the benefits if accepted are being part of an important work. Recipients are free to not submit! On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 10/7/10 10:02 AM, David Wood wrote: Hi

Re: overstock.com adds GoodRelations in RDFa to 900,000 item pages

2010-10-07 Thread Paul Houle
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Martin Hepp martin.h...@ebusiness-unibw.org wrote: I've got mixed feelings about snippets vs fully embeded RDFa. For the most part I think systems that use snippets will be more maintainable, but I've seen cases where fully embedded RDFa fits very well into a

Re: Call for Chapters: Linking Government Data

2010-10-07 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 10/7/10 11:42 AM, John Erickson wrote: Will all due respect, as with any monograph this is a call to *contribute*; the benefits if accepted are being part of an important work. Recipients are free to not submit! John, My question still stands? Who benefits from the sale of the book? No

Re: overstock.com adds GoodRelations in RDFa to 900,000 item pages

2010-10-07 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 10/7/10 11:14 AM, Paul Houle wrote: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Martin Hepp martin.h...@ebusiness-unibw.org mailto:martin.h...@ebusiness-unibw.org wrote: It is too expensive to expect data owners to lift their existing data to academic expectations. You must empower them to

Re: overstock.com adds GoodRelations in RDFa to 900,000 item pages

2010-10-07 Thread Roberto Mirizzi
Il 07/10/2010 18:27, Kingsley Idehen ha scritto: For instance, you could clearly see http://ookaboo.com/o/pictures/topic/28999/Beijing as a signifier for a city. Some people would make the assertion that dbpedia:Beijing owl:sameAs ookaboo:topic/28999/Beijing. and that's not entirely stupid.

Re: overstock.com adds GoodRelations in RDFa to 900,000 item pages

2010-10-07 Thread Michael F Uschold
These things that bug you do so with good reason. I often call it semantic infidelity. For an in depth discussion of a closely related issue see: Overloading OWL sameAshttp://ontologydesignpatterns.org/wiki/Community:Overloading_OWL_sameAsA summary is given below. Michael *Issue: *owl:sameAs

SPARQL 1.1 query question

2010-10-07 Thread Michael Ransom
Hello All, I have a question about SPARQL 1.1 queries. If have the following triples: :LeagueA abc:hasMembers :Alice, :Bob, :Carol . :LeagueB abc:hasMembers :Dante, :Edward. If I want the following table of results: ?league ?membercount LeagueA 3 LeagueB 2

Re: overstock.com adds GoodRelations in RDFa to 900,000 item pages

2010-10-07 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 10/7/10 12:51 PM, Roberto Mirizzi wrote: Il 07/10/2010 18:27, Kingsley Idehen ha scritto: For instance, you could clearly see http://ookaboo.com/o/pictures/topic/28999/Beijing as a signifier for a city. Some people would make the assertion that dbpedia:Beijing owl:sameAs

Re: overstock.com adds GoodRelations in RDFa to 900,000 item pages

2010-10-07 Thread Roberto Mirizzi
Il 07/10/2010 19:37, Kingsley Idehen ha scritto: We recently discussed about similar issues, anyway it's still quite obsure for me why this: dbpedia:Beijing owl:sameAs ookaboo:topic/28999/Beijing . Where did that come from? Did you make that claim or did something else? We discussed

Re: Call for Chapters: Linking Government Data

2010-10-07 Thread Bernadette Hyland
Hi Kingsley, I hope the following context answers your question since I'm familiar with the details ... In the spirit of transparency, we are looking for ways to raise the profile of successful projects in order to increase credibility of the SemWeb/LD community. A book like this doesn't

Re: overstock.com adds GoodRelations in RDFa to 900,000 item pages

2010-10-07 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 10/7/10 1:50 PM, Roberto Mirizzi wrote: Il 07/10/2010 19:37, Kingsley Idehen ha scritto: We recently discussed about similar issues, anyway it's still quite obsure for me why this: dbpedia:Beijing owl:sameAs ookaboo:topic/28999/Beijing . Where did that come from? Did you make that

Re: Call for Chapters: Linking Government Data

2010-10-07 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 10/7/10 1:53 PM, Bernadette Hyland wrote: Hi Kingsley, I hope the following context answers your question since I'm familiar with the details ... Bernadette, In the spirit of transparency, we are looking for ways to raise the profile of successful projects in order to increase

Re: overstock.com adds GoodRelations in RDFa to 900,000 item pages

2010-10-07 Thread Martin Hepp
Hi Paul: On 07.10.2010, at 17:56, Paul Houle wrote: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Martin Hepp martin.h...@ebusiness-unibw.org wrote: I've got mixed feelings about snippets vs fully embeded RDFa. For the most part I think systems that use snippets will be more maintainable, but

Re: overstock.com adds GoodRelations in RDFa to 900,000 item pages

2010-10-07 Thread Martin Hepp
On 07.10.2010, at 17:14, Paul Houle wrote: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Martin Hepp martin.h...@ebusiness-unibw.org wrote: From a commercial viewpoint, imperfect data is an opportunity. If I didn't have other projects ahead of it in the queue, I'd seriously be thinking

Re: overstock.com adds GoodRelations in RDFa to 900,000 item pages

2010-10-07 Thread Martin Hepp
Hi Tom, taking our thread to the public is definitely good. My point is that, yes, it is tempting to tweak your invisible data to polish your ranking. Example: In HTML, you say the price is 100 USD, in RDFa you say it was 50 USD. However, it is - from a computational perspective - very,

Best Way to Extend the Geo Vocabulary to include an error or extent radius in meters

2010-10-07 Thread Peter DeVries
Hi LOD'ers, There was some discussion about ways to record species observations using the geo vocabulary at a recent biodiversity informatics meeting. Some see the advantages of using the geo standard, but we really need to have a way to incorporate and error or extent in meters. What would be

Re: Best Way to Extend the Geo Vocabulary to include an error or extent radius in meters

2010-10-07 Thread Bernard Vatant
Hi Peter Something like the example below, but I suspect that this might not make it a real geo:Point? barely. The old maths teacher in me frowns at points having a radius :) geo:Point geo:lat55.701/geo:lat geo:long12.552/geo:long dwc:radius10/dwc:radius /geo:Point

GoodRelations Service Update 2010-09-16

2010-10-07 Thread Martin Hepp
Dear all: After thorough testing, we have just deployed a service update of the GoodRelations vocabulary at http://purl.org/goodrelations/v1 It is 99.99% backwards compatible with all existing data and applications. Please refresh your cashes!

Re: Best Way to Extend the Geo Vocabulary to include an error or extent radius in meters

2010-10-07 Thread Peter DeVries
Thanks Bernard, I will try that! :-) - Pete On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Bernard Vatant bernard.vat...@mondeca.comwrote: Hi Peter Something like the example below, but I suspect that this might not make it a real geo:Point? barely. The old maths teacher in me frowns at points having