[Bug 13083] New: postMessage should have an optional parameter for a synchronous request. Cross-domain AJAX calls are enough of a problem that it merits a supported way of fixing it, and this could

2011-06-29 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13083 Summary: postMessage should have an optional parameter for a synchronous request. Cross-domain AJAX calls are enough of a problem that it merits a supported way of fixing it,

W3C Community Groups and Business Groups [Was: Re: Proposal: Navigation of JSON documents with html-renderer-script link relation]

2011-06-29 Thread Arthur Barstow
Kris, Sean - in case you were including the W3C re appropriate next step to advance this proposal, please note the W3C's new Community Groups and Business Groups proposal has now advanced to the Beta stage: W3C Community Groups and Business Groups http://www.w3.org/2010/12/community/ Beta

Re: [Widgets] Mozilla open apps

2011-06-29 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:17:38 +0200, Scott Wilson scott.bradley.wil...@gmail.com wrote: I think Bruce Lawson was dropping a big hint the other day to look again at the questions Mike posed a long while ago! I know there was discussion at the time, but I think both initiatives have moved on

Re: [Widgets] Mozilla open apps

2011-06-29 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:17:38 +0200, Scott Wilson scott.bradley.wil...@gmail.com wrote: I think Bruce Lawson was dropping a big hint the other day to look again at the questions Mike posed a long while ago! I know

Re: Mutation events replacement

2011-06-29 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: This new proposal solves both these by making all the modifications first, then firing all the events. Hence the implementation can separate implementing the mutating function from the code that sends out notifications.

Re: [widgets] Plan to publish Proposed Recommendations for PC, Interface and DigSig specs

2011-06-29 Thread Arthur Barstow
Widget'eers, To help me track the status of the widget specs that are nearing Proposed Recommendation (PR), I created the following document using the PR transition request template: http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/WidgetsPR This data indicates only the PC spec is currently ready for

[widgets] Plan to get Widget Updates LC ready?

2011-06-29 Thread Arthur Barstow
Richard, Marcos - what is the plan to get Widget Updates spec LC ready (see [1] for LC requirements)? http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-updates/ All - if you have any implementation data for this spec, please let us know. -Thanks, AB [1]

[widgets] What is the status and plan for Widget URI spec?

2011-06-29 Thread Arthur Barstow
Robin - what is the status and plan for the Widget URI spec? http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-uri/ All - if you have any implementation data for this spec, please let us know. -Thanks, AB

Re: [XHR2] Blobs, names and FormData

2011-06-29 Thread Alfonso Martínez de Lizarrondo
I didn't notice this thread and I filed [1] in webkit due to this behavior. Providing an automatic filename it's better than sending an empty one, but it fails to address interaction with existing systems (some might refuse the upload if it doesn't look like a correct file type, at the very least

Re: [XHR2] Blobs, names and FormData

2011-06-29 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011, Alfonso Martínez de Lizarrondo aml...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't notice this thread and I filed [1] in webkit due to this behavior. Providing an automatic filename it's better than sending an empty one, but it fails to address interaction with existing systems (some

Re: [XHR2] Blobs, names and FormData

2011-06-29 Thread Alfonso Martínez de Lizarrondo
2011/6/29 Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc On Wednesday, June 29, 2011, Alfonso Martínez de Lizarrondo aml...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't notice this thread and I filed [1] in webkit due to this behavior. Providing an automatic filename it's better than sending an empty one, but it fails to

Re: Indicating certificate order in XML Dig Sig

2011-06-29 Thread Frederick.Hirsch
Marcos It also occurred to me that we should have a link to the Best Practices document from XML Signature, so people are aware of it. Thanks for the excellent suggestion. We will follow up on this in the XML Security WG. regards, Frederick Frederick Hirsch Nokia On Jun 28, 2011, at 6:16

Component Model: Landing Experimental Shadow DOM API in WebKit

2011-06-29 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Hi Folks! With use cases (http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Component_Model_Use_Cases) firmed up, and isolation (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011JanMar/0900.html), inheritance (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011JanMar/0941.html) out of the way, a component

Re: [XHR2] Blobs, names and FormData

2011-06-29 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:43:13 +0200, Alfonso Martínez de Lizarrondo aml...@gmail.com wrote: Providing an automatic filename it's better than sending an empty one, but it fails to address interaction with existing systems (some might refuse the upload if it doesn't look like a correct file

Re: [XHR2] Blobs, names and FormData

2011-06-29 Thread Alfonso Martínez de Lizarrondo
2011/6/29 Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:43:13 +0200, Alfonso Martínez de Lizarrondo aml...@gmail.com wrote: Providing an automatic filename it's better than sending an empty one, but it fails to address interaction with existing systems (some might refuse the

Re: [XHR2] Blobs, names and FormData

2011-06-29 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 18:21:39 +0200, Alfonso Martínez de Lizarrondo aml...@gmail.com wrote: If a png screenshot (as provided by current Chrome in the paste event) is sent to the server and saved as blob.bin or blob.blob, I doubt that it will be sent back to the client with the correct mime

Re: [XHR2] Blobs, names and FormData

2011-06-29 Thread Alfonso Martínez de Lizarrondo
2011/6/29 Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 18:21:39 +0200, Alfonso Martínez de Lizarrondo aml...@gmail.com wrote: If a png screenshot (as provided by current Chrome in the paste event) is sent to the server and saved as blob.bin or blob.blob, I doubt that it will be

Re: Component Model: Landing Experimental Shadow DOM API in WebKit

2011-06-29 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 6/29/11 12:08 PM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote: 2) There is no separation between internal (http://dev.w3.org/2006/xbl2/#xblimplementation) and external objects, since we decided to push isolation into its own spec. I still think this is a mistake that will come back and bite as as we try to bolt

Re: [XHR2] Blobs, names and FormData

2011-06-29 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 18:34:58 +0200, Alfonso Martínez de Lizarrondo aml...@gmail.com wrote: My first simple approach was: formdata.append(elementName, blob, picture.png); Jonas has suggested instead blobbuilder.getFile(picture.png) I don't mind one way or another, or something else you think

Re: Component Model: Landing Experimental Shadow DOM API in WebKit

2011-06-29 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 6/29/11 12:08 PM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote: 2) There is no separation between internal (http://dev.w3.org/2006/xbl2/#xblimplementation) and external objects, since we decided to push isolation into its own spec. I still

Re: Component Model: Landing Experimental Shadow DOM API in WebKit

2011-06-29 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 6/29/11 12:59 PM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote: It will just return null when the membrane is in place. OK. And the encapsulation will prevent other ways of getting at the shadow tree? Ah yes -- I didn't know how to express this in IDL. The Node comes to Document by way of TreeScope.

Re: Component Model: Landing Experimental Shadow DOM API in WebKit

2011-06-29 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 6/29/11 12:59 PM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote: It will just return null when the membrane is in place. OK.  And the encapsulation will prevent other ways of getting at the shadow tree? Yes! element.shadow is the only way

Re: Component Model: Landing Experimental Shadow DOM API in WebKit

2011-06-29 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
+cam, in case his mail filters are haters. :DG On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@chromium.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 6/29/11 12:59 PM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote: It will just return null when the membrane is in

Re: [XHR2] Blobs, names and FormData

2011-06-29 Thread Jonas Sicking
2011/6/29 Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com: On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 18:34:58 +0200, Alfonso Martínez de Lizarrondo aml...@gmail.com wrote: My first simple approach was: formdata.append(elementName, blob, picture.png); Jonas has suggested instead blobbuilder.getFile(picture.png) I don't

Re: Component Model: Landing Experimental Shadow DOM API in WebKit

2011-06-29 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:17:01 +0200, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@chromium.org wrote: The former: http://codesearch.google.com/codesearch#OAMlx_jo-ck/src/third_party/WebKit/Source/WebCore/dom/Document.hl=208 How can Document inherit from TreeScope if it already inherits from Node? -- Anne van

Re: Component Model: Landing Experimental Shadow DOM API in WebKit

2011-06-29 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:17:01 +0200, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@chromium.org wrote: The former: http://codesearch.google.com/codesearch#OAMlx_jo-ck/src/third_party/WebKit/Source/WebCore/dom/Document.hl=208 How can

Re: Mutation events replacement

2011-06-29 Thread Rafael Weinstein
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: This new proposal solves both these by making all the modifications first, then firing all the events. Hence the implementation can separate

Re: Component Model: Landing Experimental Shadow DOM API in WebKit

2011-06-29 Thread Cameron McCormack
Anne van Kesteren: How can Document inherit from TreeScope if it already inherits from Node? Dimitri Glazkov: TreeScope is a Node. That doesn’t work now that Web IDL allows only single inheritance. Here is how I would write the IDL, if I understand what you want correctly: // augment

Re: Mutation events replacement

2011-06-29 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: This new proposal solves both these by making all the modifications first, then firing all the events. Hence the implementation can separate

Re: Mutation events replacement

2011-06-29 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: Jokes aside. I think the way to do this is that the spec should introduce the concept of a compound mutating function. Functions like insertBefore, removeChild and the innerHTML setter should claim to be such functions.

[Bug 8241] Named properties on window

2011-06-29 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8241 Cameron McCormack c...@mcc.id.au changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED

Component Models and Encapsulation (was Re: Component Model: Landing Experimental Shadow DOM API in WebKit)

2011-06-29 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
I am not a fan of this API because I don't think it provides sufficient encapsulation. The words encapsulation and isolation have been used in different ways in this discussion, so I will start with an outline of different possible senses of encapsulation that could apply here. == Different