Re: Web Storage Scope and Charter (was: CfC: FPWD of Server-Sent Events, Web Sockets API, Web Storage, and Web Workers; deadline April 10)

2009-04-24 Thread Nikunj Mehta
On Apr 23, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Doug Schepers wrote: Hi, Folks- I discussed this a bit with Nikunj offline, in the context of the charter wording. He and I both agreed that the scope of the charter was too narrow (that was my fault; I changed the wording to reflect the abstract of the

Re: Web Storage Scope and Charter (was: CfC: FPWD of Server-Sent Events, Web Sockets API, Web Storage, and Web Workers; deadline April 10)

2009-04-24 Thread Nikunj Mehta
On Apr 23, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Doug Schepers wrote: Jonas and others seem to support broadening the scope, and I've also been reading various posts in the blogosphere that also question whether SQL is the right choice (I see a lot of support for

Web Storage Scope and Charter (was: CfC: FPWD of Server-Sent Events, Web Sockets API, Web Storage, and Web Workers; deadline April 10)

2009-04-23 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Folks- I discussed this a bit with Nikunj offline, in the context of the charter wording. He and I both agreed that the scope of the charter was too narrow (that was my fault; I changed the wording to reflect the abstract of the current Web Storage spec, and I probably shouldn't have),

Re: Web Storage Scope and Charter (was: CfC: FPWD of Server-Sent Events, Web Sockets API, Web Storage, and Web Workers; deadline April 10)

2009-04-23 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Doug Schepers wrote: Jonas and others seem to support broadening the scope, and I've also been reading various posts in the blogosphere that also question whether SQL is the right choice (I see a lot of support for JSON-based approaches). At the very least, I think

Re: Web Storage Scope and Charter (was: CfC: FPWD of Server-Sent Events, Web Sockets API, Web Storage, and Web Workers; deadline April 10)

2009-04-23 Thread Jonas Sicking
Sounds good to me. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Doug Schepers schep...@w3.org wrote: Hi, Folks- I discussed this a bit with Nikunj offline, in the context of the charter wording.  He and I both agreed that the scope of the charter was too narrow (that was my fault; I changed the wording

Re: CfC: FPWD of Server-Sent Events, Web Sockets API, Web Storage, and Web Workers; deadline April 10

2009-04-22 Thread Nikunj Mehta
You pretty much answered all my questions. Thanks. I would be support the charter be modified with the original text about storage APIs [[ Offline APIs and Structured Storage for enabling local access to Web application resources when not connected to a network ]] Nikunj On Apr 21, 2009,

Re: CfC: FPWD of Server-Sent Events, Web Sockets API, Web Storage, and Web Workers; deadline April 10

2009-04-21 Thread Jonas Sicking
Hmm.. I tend to agree. Using an SQL database is only one possible solution that we should be examining. I would rather say that we should provide storage for structured data inside the UA. I'm not a fan of calling out neither SQL or name-value pair storage. At the same time I'm not sure that I

Re: CfC: FPWD of Server-Sent Events, Web Sockets API, Web Storage, and Web Workers; deadline April 10

2009-04-21 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Nikunj- Nikunj Mehta wrote (on 4/21/09 5:44 PM): Apparently the new charter [1] that forces everyone to re-join the WG also lists among its deliverables as WebStorage with the explanation that WebStorage is two APIs for client-side data storage in Web applications: a name-value pair

Re: CfC: FPWD of Server-Sent Events, Web Sockets API, Web Storage, and Web Workers; deadline April 10

2009-04-10 Thread Nikunj Mehta
Oracle does not support the substance of the current Web Storage draft [1][2][3]. This is a path-breaking change to the Web applications platform and rushing such a major change without substantive consideration of alternatives is not in its own best interest. Oracle does not see it fit to

Re: CfC: FPWD of Server-Sent Events, Web Sockets API, Web Storage, and Web Workers; deadline April 10

2009-04-10 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Nikunj, On Apr 10, 2009, at 10:42 AM, ext Nikunj Mehta wrote: Oracle does not support the substance of the current Web Storage draft [1][2][3]. This is a path-breaking change to the Web applications platform and rushing such a major change without substantive consideration of alternatives

Re: CfC: FPWD of Server-Sent Events, Web Sockets API, Web Storage, and Web Workers; deadline April 10

2009-04-10 Thread Nikunj Mehta
Hi Art, Oracle conditionally supports the publishing this draft as FPWD provided that the abstract is worded appropriately. The reason to clarify the abstract is so that the WG doesn't build an implicit expectation that it will /only/ produce a SQL-based API in Web Storage. Here's what

Re: CfC: FPWD of Server-Sent Events, Web Sockets API, Web Storage, and Web Workers; deadline April 10

2009-04-10 Thread Nikunj Mehta
Just a clarification about the charter... On Apr 10, 2009, at 9:50 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: Regarding a WG Note, that doesn't seem appropriate in this case since the WG's plan of record (Charter) is to create a Recommendation for this spec. The charter [1] includes Offline APIs and

Re: CfC: FPWD of Server-Sent Events, Web Sockets API, Web Storage, and Web Workers; deadline April 10

2009-04-10 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Nikunj Mehta wrote: Here's what Oracle would like to see in the abstract: This specification defines two APIs for persistent data storage in Web clients: one for accessing key-value pair data and another for accessing structured data. Done. -- Ian Hickson

CfC: FPWD of Server-Sent Events, Web Sockets API, Web Storage, and Web Workers; deadline April 10

2009-04-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish the First Public Working Draft of the specs below. As with all of our CfCs, positive response is preferred and encouraged and silence will be assumed to be assent. The deadline for comments is April 10. -Regards, Art Barstow Begin forwarded

Re: CfC: FPWD of Server-Sent Events, Web Sockets API, Web Storage, and Web Workers; deadline April 10

2009-04-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
Nokia supports the publication of these FPWDs. -Regards, Art Barstow On Apr 2, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Barstow Art (Nokia-CIC/Boston) wrote: This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish the First Public Working Draft of the specs below. As with all of our CfCs, positive response is preferred and