Re: SVG as Widget Icon (was: Request for Comments: Last Call WD of Widgets 1.0: Packaging & Configuration spec; deadline 31 Jan 2009)

2009-01-29 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Doug, On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Doug Schepers wrote: > Hi, Folks- > > Boris Zbarsky wrote (on 1/23/09 9:25 AM): >> Things will get even worse once SVG Tiny 1.2 is a REC, since at that >> point I fully expect pretty much all SVG engines supporting SVG Tiny to >> implement that specificat

Re: SVG as Widget Icon (was: Request for Comments: Last Call WD of Widgets 1.0: Packaging & Configuration spec; deadline 31 Jan 2009)

2009-01-29 Thread Arve Bersvendsen
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:59:53 +0100, Doug Schepers wrote: On another topic, I would like to use Widgets with pure SVG content, rather than including HTML... I didn't see a clear way to do this, nor was it explicitly disallowed. I'll review the spec more to see if there are problems in this reg

Re: Request for Comments: Last Call WD of Widgets 1.0: Packaging & Configuration spec; deadline 31 Jan 2009

2009-01-28 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Marcos Caceres wrote: >> On 1/23/09 2:25 PM, "Boris Zbarsky" wrote: >> > >> >"There may be implementation-specific limits on the range of >> > integers allowed, and behavior outside such limits is undefined." >> >

Re: Request for Comments: Last Call WD of Widgets 1.0: Packaging & Configuration spec; deadline 31 Jan 2009

2009-01-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Marcos Caceres wrote: > On 1/23/09 2:25 PM, "Boris Zbarsky" wrote: > > > >"There may be implementation-specific limits on the range of > > integers allowed, and behavior outside such limits is undefined." > > You should probably tell the HTML5 guys about this too, a

Re: Request for Comments: Last Call WD of Widgets 1.0: Packaging & Configuration spec; deadline 31 Jan 2009

2009-01-28 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > Marcos Caceres wrote: >> My gut feeling is that we run with this known issue; We have a warning >> in the spec that authors should avoid using file names outside the >> ASCII range. > > I can live with that, as long as the issue has been con

Re: Request for Comments: Last Call WD of Widgets 1.0: Packaging & Configuration spec; deadline 31 Jan 2009

2009-01-28 Thread Boris Zbarsky
Marcos Caceres wrote: Ok, as I know little of SVG, I've asked Doug Scheppers to help me That sounds like an excellent plan. Thank you! It is, but this affects more than just Zip. See also [3] with the problems Limewire had in respect to normalization of Unicode on MacOs X. Note that this

SVG as Widget Icon (was: Request for Comments: Last Call WD of Widgets 1.0: Packaging & Configuration spec; deadline 31 Jan 2009)

2009-01-28 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Folks- Boris Zbarsky wrote (on 1/23/09 9:25 AM): > Marcos Caceres wrote: >>> That really depends on what the goal is. What _is_ the goal? >> >> The goals are as follows: >> 1. Widget engines optionally support SVG Tiny for the icon format >> (though they can have the capability to render f

Re: Request for Comments: Last Call WD of Widgets 1.0: Packaging & Configuration spec; deadline 31 Jan 2009

2009-01-28 Thread Marcos Caceres
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > Marcos Caceres wrote: >> >> Ok, that sounds like a completely reasonable proposal. And you are right, >> I >> had thought about this in totally the wrong way. I did as you suggested: >> * widget engines may now support SVG 1.1. >> * author

Re: Request for Comments: Last Call WD of Widgets 1.0: Packaging & Configuration spec; deadline 31 Jan 2009

2009-01-28 Thread Boris Zbarsky
Boris Zbarsky wrote: Sort of. We use JAR, not ZIP. Any JAR file is a ZIP file, but not vice versa. In particular, the JAR spec [1] defines that all non-ASCII bytes are UTF-8. That [1] is http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/guide/jar/jar.html -Boris

Re: Request for Comments: Last Call WD of Widgets 1.0: Packaging & Configuration spec; deadline 31 Jan 2009

2009-01-28 Thread Boris Zbarsky
Marcos Caceres wrote: Ok, that sounds like a completely reasonable proposal. And you are right, I had thought about this in totally the wrong way. I did as you suggested: * widget engines may now support SVG 1.1. * authors, however, should try to conform to SVG Tiny 1.2. * conformance chec

Re: Request for Comments: Last Call WD of Widgets 1.0: Packaging & Configuration spec; deadline 31 Jan 2009

2009-01-28 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Boris, On 1/23/09 2:25 PM, "Boris Zbarsky" wrote: > Marcos Caceres wrote: >> Ok. I'll need to run this by the working group as I had something like >> this in very early drafts of the spec and received criticism for being >> overly prescriptive (It could have been that I wrote the text >> inc

Re: Request for Comments: Last Call WD of Widgets 1.0: Packaging & Configuration spec; deadline 31 Jan 2009

2009-01-23 Thread Boris Zbarsky
Marcos Caceres wrote: Ok. I'll need to run this by the working group as I had something like this in very early drafts of the spec and received criticism for being overly prescriptive (It could have been that I wrote the text incorrectly). Can you please suggest some text that we could use?

Re: Request for Comments: Last Call WD of Widgets 1.0: Packaging & Configuration spec; deadline 31 Jan 2009

2009-01-22 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Boris, On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > Marcos Caceres wrote: >> >> Ok, I've removed it. This may cause implementations to override files >> on systems that don't support case insensitive file names. This should >> not be a real problem, as most file system won't let yo

Re: Request for Comments: Last Call WD of Widgets 1.0: Packaging & Configuration spec; deadline 31 Jan 2009

2009-01-22 Thread Boris Zbarsky
Marcos Caceres wrote: Ok, I've removed it. This may cause implementations to override files on systems that don't support case insensitive file names. This should not be a real problem, as most file system won't let you create files with the same name but different cases. And, on Windows at leas

Re: Request for Comments: Last Call WD of Widgets 1.0: Packaging & Configuration spec; deadline 31 Jan 2009

2009-01-22 Thread Marcos Caceres
Hi Boris, On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > > A few comments: > > 1) In section 7.3, boolean attributes are defined to use case-insensitive > matching. Why is that? There doesn't seem to be a definition of > case-insensitive here, which worries me, since case-folding is a

Re: Request for Comments: Last Call WD of Widgets 1.0: Packaging & Configuration spec; deadline 31 Jan 2009

2009-01-09 Thread Boris Zbarsky
A few comments: 1) In section 7.3, boolean attributes are defined to use case-insensitive matching. Why is that? There doesn't seem to be a definition of case-insensitive here, which worries me, since case-folding is always tricky business (see below). I would suggest requiring a case-se

Request for Comments: Last Call WD of Widgets 1.0: Packaging & Configuration spec; deadline 31 Jan 2009

2009-01-09 Thread Arthur Barstow
Bcc: public-i18n-c...@w3.org, public-b...@w3.org, wai-xt...@w3.org, public-m...@w3.org Reply-to: public-webapps@w3.org (archived at [1]) The Web Applications WG [2] explicitly seeks comments from the I18N, Mobile Web BP, Mobile Web Test Suites and WAI P&F Working Groups regarding the 22 D