Re: [XHR] Redirects

2010-09-15 Thread Julian Reschke
On 14.09.2010 18:52, Darin Fisher wrote: ... That's a good point. Note, resolving the Location header is only one of the issues. Another is knowing what HTTP method to use in response to a redirect. ... Always the same as for the original request, except for 303 :-).

Re: [XHR] Redirects

2010-09-15 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 9/15/10 12:13 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: On 14.09.2010 18:52, Darin Fisher wrote: ... That's a good point. Note, resolving the Location header is only one of the issues. Another is knowing what HTTP method to use in response to a redirect. ... Always the same as for the original request,

Re: [XHR] Redirects

2010-09-15 Thread Julian Reschke
On 15.09.2010 09:58, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 9/15/10 12:13 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: On 14.09.2010 18:52, Darin Fisher wrote: ... That's a good point. Note, resolving the Location header is only one of the issues. Another is knowing what HTTP method to use in response to a redirect. ...

Re: [XHR] Redirects

2010-09-15 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 9/15/10 1:10 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: Yes. However, I was only 50% joking. Are we sure that XHR should behave the same? Why should it behave differently from every single other HTTP request the browser makes? That seems like adding complexity for the sake of complexity... -Boris

Re: [XHR] Redirects

2010-09-15 Thread Julian Reschke
On 15.09.2010 10:16, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 9/15/10 1:10 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: Yes. However, I was only 50% joking. Are we sure that XHR should behave the same? Why should it behave differently from every single other HTTP request the browser makes? That seems like adding complexity for

Re: [XHR] Redirects

2010-09-15 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 9/15/10 1:37 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: What browsers do today is a bug per spec. Well, yes, but they implemented it that way as a specific workaround for broken servers, no? Use cases for XHR are not identical to surfing web pages. There are protocols/implementations that expect method

Re: [XHR] Redirects

2010-09-15 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 9/15/10 2:40 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: Well, yes, but they implemented it that way as a specific workaround for broken servers, no? I'm not sure about that. Hmm, fair. I just looked up the history of this code in Gecko, and the best I can give you is

Re: [XHR] Redirects

2010-09-15 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 9/15/10 2:47 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: So it's possible that the original behavior was just an oversight that then got copied. Someone with access to a browser version control system from before 1998 would need to look to make sure... It's also possible that no UA implementor was willing to

Re: [XHR] Redirects

2010-09-15 Thread Julian Reschke
On 15.09.2010 11:56, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 9/15/10 2:47 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: So it's possible that the original behavior was just an oversight that then got copied. Someone with access to a browser version control system from before 1998 would need to look to make sure... It's also

[widgets] Next call is September 23

2010-09-15 Thread Arthur Barstow
There will be no widget call on September 16; the next call is September 23. All of the open Issues and Actions for widgets are available at the following http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/products/8 The higher priority Actions/ToDos are: = Packaging and Configuration spec: need

[widgets] Widgets - WARP, Widgets Updates and Digital Signatures

2010-09-15 Thread Arthur Barstow
FYI, Nathan and others discussed Nathan's e-mail on the device-apis list: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Sep/0034.html On 9/3/10 1:52 PM, ext Nathan wrote: Hi All, Simply wondering why WARP, Widgets Updates and Digital Signatures aren't used to deploy js

[IndexedDB] IDBCursor.update for cursors returned from IDBIndex.openCursor

2010-09-15 Thread Jeremy Orlow
I think it's clear what IDBCursor does when created from IDBObjectStore.openCursor or IDBIndex.openObjectCursor: it modifies the objectStore's value and updates all indexes (or does nothing and returns an error if all of that can't be done while satisfying the constraints). But what about

ISSUE-123 (feature strings): Rationale for feature strings [DOM3 Events]

2010-09-15 Thread Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker
ISSUE-123 (feature strings): Rationale for feature strings [DOM3 Events] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/123 Raised by: Doug Schepers On product: DOM3 Events Simon Pieters http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2010JulSep/0125.html: [[ What's the use case for extended feature

ISSUE-124 (reword examples): Remove RFC2119 keywords from examples [DOM3 Events]

2010-09-15 Thread Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker
ISSUE-124 (reword examples): Remove RFC2119 keywords from examples [DOM3 Events] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/124 Raised by: Doug Schepers On product: DOM3 Events Simon Pieters http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2010JulSep/0125.html: [[ RFC2119 keywords in examples is

ISSUE-125 (DOM Views): Consider dropping DOM Views reference for HTML5 defaultView [DOM3 Events]

2010-09-15 Thread Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker
ISSUE-125 (DOM Views): Consider dropping DOM Views reference for HTML5 defaultView [DOM3 Events] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/125 Raised by: Doug Schepers On product: DOM3 Events Simon Pieters http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2010JulSep/0125.html: [[ { The

ISSUE-126 (isTrusted): Consider changing 'trusted' to 'isTrusted' [DOM3 Events]

2010-09-15 Thread Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker
ISSUE-126 (isTrusted): Consider changing 'trusted' to 'isTrusted' [DOM3 Events] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/126 Raised by: Doug Schepers On product: DOM3 Events Simon Pieters http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2010JulSep/0125.html: [[ Gecko has a property called

ISSUE-127 (cancelBubble / srcElement): Consider adding cancelBubble and srcElement [DOM3 Events]

2010-09-15 Thread Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker
ISSUE-127 (cancelBubble / srcElement): Consider adding cancelBubble and srcElement [DOM3 Events] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/127 Raised by: Doug Schepers On product: DOM3 Events Simon Pieters http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2010JulSep/0125.html: [[ Looking at [6],

ISSUE-128 (preventDefault): Define preventDefault to account for pre-propagation default actions [DOM3 Events]

2010-09-15 Thread Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker
ISSUE-128 (preventDefault): Define preventDefault to account for pre-propagation default actions [DOM3 Events] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/128 Raised by: Doug Schepers On product: DOM3 Events Simon Pieters http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2010JulSep/0125.html: [[

ISSUE-129 (event constructors): Revist event constructors [DOM3 Events]

2010-09-15 Thread Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker
ISSUE-129 (event constructors): Revist event constructors [DOM3 Events] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/129 Raised by: Doug Schepers On product: DOM3 Events Simon Pieters http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2010JulSep/0125.html: [[ An idea for creating events is to support

ISSUE-130 (Web IDL): Consider using Web IDL for the IDL fragments [DOM3 Events]

2010-09-15 Thread Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker
ISSUE-130 (Web IDL): Consider using Web IDL for the IDL fragments [DOM3 Events] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/130 Raised by: Doug Schepers On product: DOM3 Events Simon Pieters http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2010JulSep/0125.html: [[ I think this specification should

ISSUE-131 (defaultView load ): Define load event to fire on defaultView [DOM3 Events]

2010-09-15 Thread Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker
ISSUE-131 (defaultView load ): Define load event to fire on defaultView [DOM3 Events] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/131 Raised by: Doug Schepers On product: DOM3 Events Simon Pieters http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2010JulSep/0125.html: [[ { Note: for legacy

ISSUE-132 (event.returnValue): Consider adding event.returnValue [DOM3 Events]

2010-09-15 Thread Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker
ISSUE-132 (event.returnValue): Consider adding event.returnValue [DOM3 Events] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/132 Raised by: Doug Schepers On product: DOM3 Events Hallvord R. M. Steen http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2010JulSep/0142.html: [[ IE lets you prevent the

DOM3 Events Comments

2010-09-15 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Folks- I appreciate all the comments on DOM3 Events so far. I'm filing each of them in Tracker, though it may take me a few days to file a bug; however, I am reading all of them, and will get around to filing them all. Currently, the WebApps Tracker sends the emails for each filed issue

Re: ISSUE-126 (isTrusted): Consider changing 'trusted' to 'isTrusted' [DOM3 Events]

2010-09-15 Thread Olli Pettay
On 09/15/2010 08:55 PM, Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker wrote: ISSUE-126 (isTrusted): Consider changing 'trusted' to 'isTrusted' [DOM3 Events] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/126 Raised by: Doug Schepers On product: DOM3 Events Simon

Re: ArrayBuffer and ByteArray questions

2010-09-15 Thread Arun Ranganathan
On 9/7/10 10:08 PM, Darin Fisher wrote: On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Kenneth Russell k...@google.com mailto:k...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Nathan nat...@webr3.org mailto:nat...@webr3.org wrote: Jian Li wrote: Hi, Several specs, like