https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16833
Summary: consider always exposing a length property for
objects with indexed properties
Product: WebAppsWG
Version: unspecified
Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
No, I hadn't. Let me digest this thread. Much of what I'm implicitly
asking has already been discussed. I'll repost if I have anything to
add here. Apologies for the noise.
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:
Have you looked
at
Yes. I think this issue is a distraction.
Using the script tag for encoding opaque text contents is a hack, but
it works as well as it can. AFAIC, The main drawback is that the
contents cannot contain the string /script. This will be the case
for any new element we came up with for this
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 06:46, Brian Kardell bkard...@gmail.com wrote:
I know of many, many templating systems and I have simply never (aside
from MDV) seen it in exactly this light (that is templates actually
embedded in others), regardless of whether those are for within the
browser for
Placing contents as CDATA is an option. I personally think the template/
tag as proposed is adhoc to somebody's notion of how templates should work.
To avoid this I think they should be simpler. I am not seeing the added
advantage of having the client parse the contents upon encountering it:
there
On 04/24/2012 05:57 PM, Yuval Sadan wrote:
Placing contents as CDATA is an option. I personally think the
template/ tag as proposed is adhoc to somebody's notion of how
templates should work. To avoid this I think they should be simpler. I
am not seeing the added advantage of having the
Hmm. I have to say that I disagree that your example below shows a
template within a template. That is IMO 1 template wherein there is
iteration syntax.
But to further my point: Where does the demarcation of template stop and
template syntax begin in your example? Or are you saying that the
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Erik Arvidsson a...@chromium.org wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 06:46, Brian Kardell bkard...@gmail.com wrote:
I know of many, many templating systems and I have simply never (aside
from MDV) seen it in exactly this light (that is templates actually
embedded
I agree with these statements:
there is no use for the contents before it is used programmatically
it's never considered to be part of the document's semantic content
I'd like to add that the only use-case for a template/ tag (IMO) is to
deliver content to the UA safely preventing the DOM from
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Clint Hill clint.h...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm. I have to say that I disagree that your example below shows a
template within a template. That is IMO 1 template wherein there is
iteration syntax.
The iteration syntax is basically an element - the example that Arv
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:11 AM, James Graham jgra...@opera.com wrote:
On 04/24/2012 05:57 PM, Yuval Sadan wrote:
Placing contents as CDATA is an option. I personally think the template/
tag as proposed is adhoc to somebody's notion of how templates should work.
To avoid this I think they
Any way you slice it, common templating scenarios will create problems if
you don't hook it up to a proper parser at some point.
This is a great point: What parser? If you're implying the HTML Parser,
then I think we're talking about a Templating syntax and not just a
template/ tag. To which I
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16840
Summary: i vear shiad but lagbar mypassword
Product: WebAppsWG
Version: unspecified
Platform: Other
URL: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#top
OS/Version: other
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16840
Olli Pettay olli.pet...@gmail.com changed:
What|Removed |Added
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Brian Kardell bkard...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Clint Hill clint.h...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm. I have to say that I disagree that your example below shows a
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Brian Kardell bkard...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Clint Hill clint.h...@gmail.com
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Brian Kardell bkard...@gmail.com wrote:
All that said, maybe with some time and experience I could learn to
love it as DOM too... I'm really not trying to be the only one arguing
endlessly about it, so unless someone backs me up on at least some
point here I
On 04/24/2012 09:43 PM, Travis Leithead wrote:
Based on my reading of DOM4, initEvent makes it possible to transform
a trusted event into a non-trusted event and dispatch it. Is that
intentional?
AFAIK, yes
It is only currently supported in Firefox and Opera. In
IE, Chrome and Safari, the
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Olli Pettay olli.pet...@helsinki.fiwrote:
Yes. It should be possible to re-dispatch events. But if a script
running on a web page dispatches event, the event must become
untrusted.
What's the point of isTrusted, anyway? You have to trust other scripts
Glenn, isTrusted is the indicator that helps the web developer distinguish
between an event fired by the UA, or one fired by JavaScript (e.g.,
dispatchEvent).
From: Glenn Maynard [mailto:gl...@zewt.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 12:38 PM
To: o...@pettay.fi
Cc: Travis Leithead;
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Travis Leithead
travis.leith...@microsoft.com wrote:
Glenn, isTrusted is the indicator that helps the web developer
distinguish between an event fired by the UA, or one fired by JavaScript
(e.g., dispatchEvent).
I know what it does; I'm asking what its
On 4/24/12 9:54 PM, Travis Leithead travis.leith...@microsoft.com
wrote:
Glenn, isTrusted is the indicator that helps the web developer
distinguish between an event fired by the UA, or one fired by JavaScript
(e.g., dispatchEvent).
From: Glenn Maynard [mailto:gl...@zewt.org]
What's the
On 4/24/12 10:00 PM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Travis Leithead
travis.leith...@microsoft.com wrote:
Glenn, isTrusted is the indicator that helps the web developer
distinguish between an event fired by the UA, or one fired by JavaScript
(e.g.,
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Tobie Langel to...@fb.com wrote:
Are you asking about the purpose of exposing the property or the purpose
of trusted events?
I'm asking about the property. The flag underneath it exists only to
implement the property.
The latter's obvious: prevent visited
(Sorry, forgot to merge drafts.)
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Tobie Langel to...@fb.com wrote:
See http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Events/#events-event-type-isTrusted
Please don't link people to TR specs; that text is almost a year out of
date, which invites pain and confusion. Always
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 22:00:24 +0200, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Travis Leithead
travis.leith...@microsoft.com wrote:
Glenn, isTrusted is the indicator that helps the web developer
distinguish between an event fired by the UA, or one fired by JavaScript
On 4/24/12 4:34 PM, Glenn Maynard wrote:
This is a common misconception of how events work. If you're a browser,
default events do not--except for one or two web-compat exceptions--look
like this:
browse_button.addEventListener(click, function(e) { if(e.isTrusted)
openFilePicker(); }, false);
On 4/24/12 11:04 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
On 4/24/12 5:02 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
Oh, and that's before we get into default actions implemented by
extensions.
And one more thing: extensions _definitely_ want to know whether events
are trusted or not. This doesn't necessitate
On 4/24/12 5:08 PM, Tobie Langel wrote:
On 4/24/12 11:04 PM, Boris Zbarskybzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
On 4/24/12 5:02 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
Oh, and that's before we get into default actions implemented by
extensions.
And one more thing: extensions _definitely_ want to know whether events
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 23:02:22 +0200, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
(DOM3's language
about default actions confuses this; I suggest reading DOM4's event
section to get a good picture of how this actually works.)
Or rather how the DOM4 editor is choosing to conceptualize it, which may
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:00, Scott González scott.gonza...@gmail.com wrote:
Are there other use cases that are trying to be solved with template?
3. Inert. You don't want to fetch resources at unresolved URLs.
img src=/images/${user}.png
4. Selectors should not match content of the template
On Apr 12, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Arun Ranganathan wrote:
I intend to add ArrayBufferView as a parameter to the Blob constructor .
Would it be possible also to allow passing an ArrayBuffer with an offset and
length as an additional alternative? This would eliminate the need to create a
view when
On Apr 24, 2012, at 3:53 PM, David Herman wrote:
On Apr 12, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Arun Ranganathan wrote:
I intend to add ArrayBufferView as a parameter to the Blob constructor .
Would it be possible also to allow passing an ArrayBuffer with an offset and
length as an additional alternative?
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16846
Summary: cześc to ja rodzyn i wydaje mi się ze jestem na dość
dobrej pozycji i w ogóle jestem super i jestem
zajebisty ale nie czaje o co chodzi ty wszystklim
ludzą skoro to
On 4/24/12 5:16 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 23:02:22 +0200, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
(DOM3's language
about default actions confuses this; I suggest reading DOM4's event
section to get a good picture of how this actually works.)
Or rather how the DOM4 editor
I filed https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16847 to track getting
DOM3 updated on this point.
Thanks for the info.
BTW: Olli, your email isn't recognized in the Bug DB's CC list. Is there one
that will work?
-Original Message-
From: Olli Pettay
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16846
Art Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com changed:
What|Removed |Added
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
On 04/25/2012 12:16 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 23:02:22 +0200, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
(DOM3's language
about default actions confuses this; I suggest reading DOM4's event
section to get a good picture of how this actually works.)
Or rather how the DOM4
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