Re: Shadow DOM and Fallback contents for images

2013-10-17 Thread Hayato Ito
I am aware that there are issues related to selections regarding Shadow DOM both in the spec and the implementation. But I don't have a clear answer to resolve that and couldn't satisfy users. This is one of the toughest issues, I think. Some of us have already started to tackle this issue. We had

Re: Shadow DOM and Fallback contents for images

2013-10-17 Thread Hajime Morrita
B looks fine. We don't have to rush into the API addition though. The API is just a shortcut of a tree traversal and easy to polyfill. It won't too late to design this after hearing some concrete usecases. Also, we need to extend this rough idea to take reprojection ( and ) into account. I hope pr

Re: Shadow DOM and Fallback contents for images

2013-10-17 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Oct 17, 2013 6:48 PM, "Hajime Morrita" wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:56 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 1:55 AM, Hajime Morrita wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: >> >> >> >> On Oct 16, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Hajime

Re: Shadow DOM and Fallback contents for images

2013-10-17 Thread Hajime Morrita
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:56 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 1:55 AM, Hajime Morrita > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > >> > >> On Oct 16, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Hajime Morrita wrote: > >> > >> D. "H[ello Shado]w World" - selection spa

Re: Shadow DOM and Fallback contents for images

2013-10-17 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Travis Leithead wrote: > From: Jonas Sicking [mailto:jo...@sicking.cc] > >> Though I'd also be interested to hear how other implementations feel about >> the Gecko solution of allowing selection to be comprised of multiple DOM >> Ranges. > > Seems totally reason

RE: Shadow DOM and Fallback contents for images

2013-10-17 Thread Travis Leithead
From: Jonas Sicking [mailto:jo...@sicking.cc] > Though I'd also be interested to hear how other implementations feel about > the Gecko solution of allowing selection to be comprised of multiple DOM > Ranges. Seems totally reasonable; only problem is that pretty much all content on the web ass

Re: Shadow DOM and Fallback contents for images

2013-10-17 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 1:55 AM, Hajime Morrita wrote: > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: >> >> On Oct 16, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Hajime Morrita wrote: >> >> D. "H[ello Shado]w World" - selection spans outside to inside. >> >> >> Suppose we allowed this selection. Then how d

Re: Shadow DOM and Fallback contents for images

2013-10-17 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Hajime Morrita wrote: > This is not allowed: > > D. "H[ello Shado]w World" - selection spans outside to inside. This is not acceptable to me. Users should not be affected by the fact that a piece of UI is implemented using shadow DOM rather than using just "normal

Reminder: RfC: LCWD of File API; deadline October 24

2013-10-17 Thread Arthur Barstow
Original Message Subject:RfC: LCWD of File API; deadline October 24 Resent-Date:Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:54:21 + Resent-From: Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:39:55 -0400 From: ext Arthur Barstow Reply-To: public-webapps To: public-webapps [ Bcc public

Re: [clipboard] Add RTF to the "mandatory data types" list?

2013-10-17 Thread James Greene
Oh, and I should also mention that the Flash Player clipboard (which we are trying to kill) supports plain text, HTML, and RTF, as well as custom "application-defined" data types. http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FlashPlatform/reference/actionscript/3/flash/desktop/Clipboard.html On Oct 17, 2013 5:44 A

[clipboard] Add RTF to the "mandatory data types" list?

2013-10-17 Thread James Greene
Would it be possible to add RTF (MIME type of "application/rtf") [1] to the "mandatory data types" [2] list? While it is a proprietary file format held by Microsoft, it also has public specs [3][4] and is designed for cross-platform interchange of text and graphics. More importantly, I speculate

Re: Shadow DOM and Fallback contents for images

2013-10-17 Thread Hajime Morrita
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > On Oct 16, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Hajime Morrita wrote: > > D. "H[ello Shado]w World" - selection spans outside to inside. > > > Suppose we allowed this selection. Then how does one go about pasting this > content elsewhere? > > Most likely, what

Re: Shadow DOM and Fallback contents for images

2013-10-17 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Oct 16, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Hajime Morrita wrote: > D. "H[ello Shado]w World" - selection spans outside to inside. Suppose we allowed this selection. Then how does one go about pasting this content elsewhere? Most likely, whatever other content editable area, mail client, or some random app (