, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Keean Schupke ke...@fry-it.com wrote:
I think a static declaration is better for security, so if a permission
is not there I don't think it should be allowed to request it later. Of
course how this is presented to the user
own set of
permission flags updated by the callback. I am not sure that's easier than
just chaining an anonymous function... But I guess that's a programming
style issue.
Cheers,
Keean.
On 2 Feb 2013 10:47, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com wrote:
And you can have the *the* callback (singular
You suggest a bulk up front permission dialog doesn't work, whereas pinging
the user at random intervals with a popup does?
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com wrote:
I would propose
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Charles McCathie Nevile
cha...@yandex-team.ru wrote:
That kind of bulk approach does not work. Users don't understand
what's going on.
That's what research shows. To be fair, we've generally presented the
options in ways that are over-technical.
This
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.comwrote:
Web Security Experience, Indicators and Trust: Scope and Use Cases
http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/**NOTE-wsc-usecases-20080306/http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-wsc-usecases-20080306/
Yeah, has anybody actually even read
on).
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.comwrote:
Web Security Experience, Indicators and Trust: Scope and Use Cases
http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/**NOTE-wsc-usecases-20080306/http://www.w3.org
cha...@yandex-team.ru wrote:
**
On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 12:59:35 +0100, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.comwrote:
Web Security Experience, Indicators and Trust: Scope and Use Cases
http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-wsc
More precedent
http://kb.mit.edu/confluence/download/attachments/151094600/android-install.jpg
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com wrote:
The idea is to allow vendors to improve their UX (if they're so inclined)
by allowing developers (if they're so inclined) to use
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Charles McCathie Nevile
cha...@yandex-team.ru wrote:
**
Right now vendors look at a page and can often heurisitically generate a
permission request that is either consolidated, or depends on actual usage.
A heuristic is fine but, it only goes so far. First of
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Adrienne Porter Felt adriennef...@gmail.com
wrote:
My user research on Android found that people have a hard time connecting
upfront permission requests to the application feature that needs the
permission. This meant that people have no real basis by which to
permission to to either? I think not. Do we
want to make him find that out after he's been entering our UI-flow and
been pressing buttons 5 minutes later? I think not.)
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Charles McCathie Nevile
cha...@yandex-team.ru wrote:
**
On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 15:16:04 +0100, Florian
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Travis Leithead
travis.leith...@microsoft.com wrote:
A key capability doesn't sound right. Are we querying for a key's
locale name? e.g., queryKeyLocaleName(code)?
Well, the keys locales primary symbol for that keyboard key if the key is
printable. There's
Sounds fine to me, any objections to add it to the Event Level 4 spec?
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Hallvord Reiar Michaelsen Steen
hallv...@opera.com wrote:
What/where would be a good place to put the API for say
queryKeyCap(code) ?
Given that the implementation will have a
There is a problem confronting applications desiring to use a variety of
APIs such as pointerlock, fullscreen, WebRTC, local storage and so on.
The problem is that each instance of attempting to use such an API leads to
a new Allow ... popup the user has to click away.
By some discussion on the
with A) not doing accessible, localized, user friendly things
or B) doing more user unfriendly things like popping allow ... dialogs
all over. I have forked issue B in its own thread, hopefully so that
neither A or B will be necessary.
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com
I have written a blog post at length about this issue here:
http://codeflow.org/entries/2013/jan/30/keyboard-events-in-javascript-are-broken/
In short the problem is the following:
- RIAs (shortcut systems) and Games (shortcut systems and action systems)
need to be able to identify each key
)
Editor's Draft at:
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/d4e/raw-file/tip/source_respec.htm
I believe that it addresses all of your concerns but I'm interested in any
comments that you might have.
Thanks,
-Gary
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:05 AM, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com wrote:
I have written a blog post
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Wez w...@chromium.org wrote:
Would a French user expect such a dialog to say Now press
Ctrl+Shift+/+, though?
I think that users expect shortcut mappers to show them the unmodified
primary symbol of the key. For instance for a swiss guy the shortcut
,
unmodified) and then translate that to a localized display. A lot of
shortcuts will make sense regardless of locality, but it's important for a
user to figure out which shortcuts don't work for them by looking at the
shortcut display.
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Florian Bösch pya
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Gary Kacmarcik (Кошмарчик)
gary...@chromium.org wrote:
Yes, trying to match the current (virtual) keycap was not a direct goal,
but adding the 'code' attribute makes it possible (when combined with the
current layout) to calculate a keycap value.
I think that
What/where would be a good place to put the API for say queryKeyCap(code) ?
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Gary Kacmarcik (Кошмарчик)
gary...@chromium.org wrote:
Yes, trying to match the current (virtual) keycap
Less steps and it's now async as well.
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com wrote:
Whatever the eventual solution to this problem, it should be the user of
the API driving the decision how to get the data.
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Kyle Huey m
I can't guess how important the whole attribution thing is. I can however
say that having a public repository on github makes it easier for
drive-by contributors to contribute something. The traditional process
captures almost none of these contributions. I can also tell that I (and
probably most
I think it's a good idea. The WebGL specification/tests moved to github
which made contributing patches (as pull requests) a lot easier.
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Odin Hørthe Omdal odi...@opera.comwrote:
Hi!
We just had a small discussion on webapps-testsuite [1] about the
Perhaps we should think of a better scheme to export data than toFoo().
Maybe toData('url'), toData('arraybuffer') toData('blob') or perhaps
toData(URL), toData(ArrayBuffer) or toData(Blob). I tend to think that if
you're starting to write toA, toB, toC, toX methods on an object, you've
not
, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps we should think of a better scheme to export data than toFoo().
Maybe toData('url'), toData('arraybuffer') toData('blob') or perhaps
toData(URL), toData(ArrayBuffer) or toData(Blob). I tend to think that if
you're starting to write toA, toB, toC
Having a texture in WebGL and wanting to encode it into a typed array as
PNG, I have found that the only way to do it is the following convoluted
method.
1) Create canvas, set to desired size
2) Create 2D context
3) Create imageData object
4) Create a WebGL framebuffer object
5) Attach texture as
14, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com wrote:
Having a texture in WebGL and wanting to encode it into a typed array as
PNG, I have found that the only way to do it is the following convoluted
method
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote:
You want toBlob, not toDataURL.
So how would I stick a blob into an arraybuffer?
I'm currently working on an Application that requires to save and open
files from a users computer with a selection dialog.
Opening files works fine by creating an input type=file upon user
interaction, listening to the change event, triggering a click and
grabbing the file.
Saving files does
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote:
Note that for saving dynamically-generated content to disk, you probably
want FileSaver rather than @download. With @download you have to put the
whole file in a data: URL, which doesn't scale to larger files--you
wouldn't
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
This, I agree is a problem.
The semantic used by countless applications and which is an extremely well
established UX pattern is:
- First Save - Open Save As dialog
- Subsequent Save - overwrite previous location
- Any Save
I should note that I do have an application in the oven that could serve as
a usecase study for non fullscreen pointerlock UX/issues (it uses
pointerlock in different portions of its functionality to improve
usability).
It's currently not ready for release, but upon request I can arrange for a
The pointerlock API is currently prefixed with vendor prefixes. This is
fine in principle since it is an experimental API that lacks consistency
and consensus and that's what vendor prefixes are for.
A vendor prefix should serve to inform a developer that he's using
non-standard functionality
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
That's fixed as of 3 days ago in Firefox nightlies, for what it's worth.
That's good to hear that more of this becomes shimable.
Events already allocate a new object or ten, for what it's worth.
-
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote:
And given this difference in UA behavior, it seems useful to let web
developers feature-detect the difference in behavior somehow.
It would be useful to be able to detect it. But it's in no way cruical, we
can just do
Motivation: Web Applications enter the arena of interactive content
creation/consumption (games, productivity software, etc.). A good PRNG
would be desirable in many situations.
Web Applications that desire to use random numbers have a 4 problems with
the existing Math.random function.
1) The
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:
Did you discuss this with TC39?
I did not, sorry if this is the wrong place for it.
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:24 PM, frederick.hir...@nokia.com wrote:
The W3C Web Cryptography working group [1] has a draft that seems to
include a method to generate cryptographically random values [2].
It does include a random number generator. However it does not include
seeding and
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 5:20 PM, David Bruant bruan...@gmail.com wrote:
That'd be a nonsense to add seeding in my opinion. If you want security,
you don't want to take the risk of people seeding and loose all security
property. If it's for debugging purposes, the seeding should be part of a
I'll see that I can come up with a test suite that verifies statistical and
runtime behavior of an array of algorithms implemented in JS, it'll
probably take a while.
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 6:02 PM, David Bruant bruan...@gmail.com wrote:
Le 16/11/2012 17:35, Florian Bösch a écrit :
On Fri
I'd like to propose as a constructive strategy not to flame/offend
everybody right off the bat. I'm sure there's reasons, I'd like to hear
them, too.
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Todd Blanchard toddvblanch...@gmail.comwrote:
It has been two years since the following little note was attached
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Charles McCathie Nevile
cha...@yandex-team.ru wrote:
The Webapps group will continue to try and reach industry agreement on
ways to handle data storage for offline applications. Help is appreciated.
Trying to help is generally appreciated too.
A slight
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Todd Blanchard toddvblanch...@gmail.comwrote:
Wondering what is wrong with the blob type in SQLite?
A couple of things
1) Array buffers can't be passed to websql
2) websql is subject to the hard quota (5mb) and I'm talking about
gigabytes of data
3)
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Kyle Huey m...@kylehuey.com wrote:
Er, IndexedDB should handle ArrayBuffers just fine. If you're seeing
problems with that that's an implementation bug, not a case that the spec
failed to handle.
You're right it does, I just checked. Nevertheless there are
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Todd Blanchard toddvblanch...@gmail.comwrote:
Gigabytes of data? Why would one subject WebSQL to a hard quote of 5M and
think using gigabytes of user disk space in a different scenario is OK?
Something seems out of balance here. Why limit one but not the
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 7:42 PM, João Eiras jo...@opera.com wrote:
You're again confusing implementation details with the specification. User
agents are free to implement whatever quota management they want, as long
as it's transparent and respects the visible effects on the webpage side.
Similarly the vendors deciding not wanting to support WebSQL isn't a spec
issue and it should be filed in the bug tracker of your favorite vendor.
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:02 PM, João Eiras jo...@opera.com wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:50:20 +0100, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com
wrote
Care to paste that one? I'll test it in firefox.
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
On 11/12/12 8:17 AM, Florian Bösch wrote:
This testsite:
http://codeflow.org/issues/**indexeddb.htmlhttp://codeflow.org/issues/indexeddb.html
Putting 50mb takes between
In FF 16.0.2 on linux, 50mb put takes about 100ms and get takes about 500ms.
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
On 11/12/12 12:31 PM, Florian Bösch wrote:
Care to paste that one? I'll test it in firefox.
http://pastebin.mozilla.org/**1937689http
A-ha. Filled payload with random. Now it's FF 4.4s put, 5.5s get. In line
with chromes perf.
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
On 11/12/12 1:56 PM, Florian Bösch wrote:
In FF 16.0.2 on linux, 50mb put takes about 100ms and get takes about
500ms
The specification states that Prefetch requests must not include
cookies. which is not an effective measure to prevent user profiling.
For instance somebody could auto generate the prefetch.txt tailored to
the user to fetch URLs like to
FYI Flickr slideshows and Google street view are now fullscreen users.
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Chris Pearce cpea...@mozilla.com wrote:
On 16/10/12 18:48, Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
Many games could work with only non-alphanumeric keys or in some cases
only the mouse. As could
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote:
Based on all this, I continue to think that requesting keyboard access
should involve separate API, so that it can be feature-detected and given
different security treatment by vendors as desired. This is what Flash
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 4:50 AM, Carr, Wayne wayne.c...@intel.com wrote:
If touch events are restricted, how does the user pause the video?
If you do not disable click/touch on devices with an onscreen keyboard, how
do you defend against phishing?
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Feross Aboukhadijeh fer...@feross.orgwrote:
Apple has also indicated of not liking confirm prompts of any kind
whatsoever
To reiterate: for 90% (probably more) of fullscreen use cases, there would
be no confirmation prompt at all. Only when the developer
it going
full screen.
-Original Message-
From: Jonas Sicking [mailto:jo...@sicking.cc]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:44 AM
To: Carr, Wayne
Cc: Vincent Scheib; Maciej Stachowiak; public-webapps@w3.org; Chris
Pearce;
Florian Bösch; Anne van Kesteren
Subject: Re: Defenses against
, but touch events would be restricted.
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 4:01 AM, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com wrote:
There are two problems with your proposal:
1) Apple has indicated of not being comfortable with keyboard (and/or UI?)
events in fullscreen at all.
2) Apple has also indicated of not liking
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Vincent Scheib sch...@google.com wrote:
However, if other browsers only implement fullscreen without keyboard
support then clearly it would be best if developers could detect this when
composing their application interface, avoiding prompting users to enter
Ok, so here's my question. You have a webapp (that oh, happens to be a
game, or a slideshow app, or a video player with controls, etc.) which
needs keyboard/UI events access to work (come to think of it, can you
honestly think of any sort of usecase that does work entirely without user
.
Regards,
Maciej
On Oct 15, 2012, at 3:45 AM, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, so here's my question. You have a webapp (that oh, happens to be a
game, or a slideshow app, or a video player with controls, etc.) which
needs keyboard/UI events access to work (come to think of it, can you
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote:
I think the most effective defense against phishing via fullscreen is to
prevent keyboard access. The original design for requestFullscreen had an
optional argument for requesting keyboard access, which led to a warning
You're making fullscreen useless for games.
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote:
On Oct 13, 2012, at 4:58 AM, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote:
I think the most effective
WebGL FPSes with fullscreen support
- http://media.tojicode.com/q3bsp/
- https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/demos/detail/bananabread
- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6873971/data/cube2/index.html
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com wrote:
You're making fullscreen useless
There was a limited discussion on that a few days ago with the limited
consensus (?) being that requiring user-consent up front before switching
to fullscreen is desired, should be in the standard and isn't sacrificing
UX.
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Carr, Wayne wayne.c...@intel.com wrote:
Cheer up everyone, we've got somebody dedicated to writing fullscreen
exploits now :) http://feross.org/html5-fullscreen-api-attack/
Summary: Change blindness may make phishing attacks feasible (displaying a
mock browser/page in fullscreen)
Cause: Switch to fullscreen before user consent.
Fix:
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Charles McCathie Nevile
cha...@yandex-team.ru wrote:
On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 08:43:13 +0200, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com
wrote:
Cheer up everyone, we've got somebody dedicated to writing fullscreen
exploits now :)
http://feross.org/html5-**fullscreen-api
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com wrote:
TL;DR I don't think you lose anything of value if you move the
confirmation
to before the fullscreen change and you might just inadvertedly
I've been toying a bit with the current chrome implementation of gamepads,
and been trying to make sense of how it would work for firefox.
There's a few observations I'd like to share:
- Being able to enumerate devices is very convenient. I don't think
Firefoxes implementation went that way
I'd like to point out that vendors are using additional failure criteria to
determine if pointerlock succeeds that are not outlined in the
specification. Firefox uses the fullscreen change event to determine
failure and chrome requires the pointer lock request to fail if not
resulting from a user
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Olli Pettay olli.pet...@helsinki.fiwrote:
On 10/02/2012 11:55 PM, Florian Bösch wrote:
I'd like to point out that vendors are using additional failure criteria
to determine if pointerlock succeeds that are not outlined in the
specification. Firefox uses
without any user gesture if requested when in
fullscreen. Out of fullscreen a user gesture (click, key press) is
required. See
http://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/mouse-lock
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Olli
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Joran Greef jo...@ronomon.com wrote:
You are conflating web apps (trusted, installed) with web pages (single
link click).
You should clarify that when you say web-apps you mean the other kind.
No, WebSockets are not plain old TCP.
After handshake the pipe
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Michael[tm] Smith m...@w3.org wrote:
There is no conceivable conformance checker that's going to allow the use
of completely arbitrary tag names. It doesn't matter what formalism it
uses.
To allow custom tag names and still be able to check the conformance of
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Chaals McCathieNevile w...@chaals.comwrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:47:22 +0200, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Michael[tm] Smith m...@w3.org wrote:
There is no conceivable conformance checker that's going to allow
It's my understanding that if you want to define a strict parser using a
DTD that describes the markup, it's impossible to introduce arbitrary tage
names (as in there are not tag wildcards in a DTD). A document that used
arbitrary tags could not be validated.
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Dave
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 2:29 AM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote:
5ms is an *eternity* when you're aiming for 60 FPS, where you only have
16.6ms per frame to play with. That's 30% of your CPU budget just for
memory management. It doesn't matter if it's 5ms every 100 frames, since
it's the
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote:
I'll leave the translation of IM protocol to user facing use case as
homework for the reader. It is trivial. My intent is to show a use case
where one would use a persistent connection and a series of send/response
messages
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote:
The same reason that a remote blob would be useful with XHR.
Since you're steadfastly refusing to detail your use case, that'll just
mean none to me.
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote:
On a quick test, Firefox is firing mousemove events at 120Hz; this is
about the same magnitude of data. We don't currently have any
infrastructure for using ArrayBuffers for complex data, so it'd either need
to be something
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 11:07 AM, b...@pettay.fi b...@pettay.fi wrote:
The update rate depends on the device. Tablet updates reach way beyond
120HZ and even my 3D mouse clocks in at about 500 events/s. And a major
obstacle for a realtime input device is when the realtime app trying to
use it
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Olli Pettay olli.pet...@helsinki.fiwrote:
It doesn't matter if they're bugs (I often see them in conjunction to
array buffer allocation).
Of course it matters. APIs shouldn't be designed based on implementation
bugs
It doesn't because those bugs have not
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Olli Pettay olli.pet...@helsinki.fiwrote:
It doesn't matter if they're bugs (I often see them in conjunction to
array buffer allocation).
Of course it matters. APIs shouldn't be designed
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com wrote:
It's OK because the other half these projects owe it to array buffers to
make things run blazing fast, since the JIT in V8 enthusiastically
optimizes JS, the reduced pointer indirection speeds things up and the
better
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote:
Here's a rough sketch of an API that provides clean forwards-compatibility
for devices. I think this also avoids all of the issues I talked about
earlier: it gives a clean, easy to use event-based API that preserves
ordering
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Florian Bösch pya...@gmail.com wrote:
What happens if there is no supported profile?
Oh nm, then it's raw, stupid question.
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote:
I haven't tried to incorporate Florian's suggestion of using something
like ArrayBuffer. That could be supported later, eg. by providing a
readIntoBuffer(buffer) next to read(). That's too complex to try to tackle
all at
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com wrote:
Touch events v2 has some properties, such as pressure
Although lacking most other properties (Z, tilt, rotation etc.)
InkML covers the full serialization of captured data.
It looked fairly complete, though I was
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com wrote:
WebGL vectors map well to brush traces.
One would process a trace group into an int or float array then upload
that to webgl for rendering.
Or, one might use that array to render via Canvas 2d.
It's a little more
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com wrote:
As I understand it, the browsers have mature event queues; and
everything comes with a timestamp.
We've got requestAnimationFrame as our primary loop for processing the
queue.
To clear a queue (so to speak), I believe
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com wrote:
What kind of correlated events are you thinking of?
For instance most tablet drivers deliver X/Y events separately. If you
processed those individually, fast brushstrokes would become staircases. To
avoid that, developers
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 12:52 AM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote:
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Scott Graham scot...@chromium.org wrote:
- As you point out, the 360 controller is by far the most common PC
gamepad, and on its native platforms its standard API XInput is
exclusively
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote:
Further, a default behavior in the absence of such an injection might be
defined simply to read data from the WS and stuff into the blob.
Which kind of defeats the purpose because you wanted to read ranges, so not
a whole
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote:
I'm questioning defining a LazyBlob that is solely usable with XHR. It
would be better to have a more generic version IMO.
Websockets have no content semantics, therefore any lazy content
negotiating reader cannot deal with
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote:
Why restrict to XHR? How about WebSocket as data source?
Websockets support array buffers and therefore by extension any blob/file
object. However as a stream oriented API websockets have no content
aquisition, negotation,
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote:
No it hasn't. If you want a real world use case it is this: my
architectural constraints as an author for some particular usage requires
that I use WS rather than XHR. I wish to have support for the construct
being discussed
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote:
I am not proposing a particular browser supported semantic for a
specific implementation on the server. I have suggested, by way of
example, two particular patterns be supported independently of any such
implementation. I did
I'm interested in drawing tablets and I wonder how that might appear in
browsers.
Typically drawing tablets have these properties:
- PenID: The current pen ID being used
- Tool type: the classification of the pen
- Proximity: in range of the magnet-resonance sensors
- Distance: distance over the
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote:
So? Why should lazy blob be specific to HTTP specific semantics when an
arbitrary URL is not specific to HTTP?
Reading a resource at arbitrary locations requires two things:
1) That a resource is understood as a container of
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote:
All WS usage requires a particular (application specific) implementation
on the server, does it not? Notwithstanding that fact, such usage will fall
into certain messaging patterns. I happened to give an example of two
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