Re: CfC: Is Web Workers Ready for CR? deadline Dec 14

2015-11-30 Thread Boris Zbarsky

On 11/30/15 8:31 AM, Xiaoqian Wu wrote:

The latest [TEST RESULTS] of Web Workers indicate that Dedicated Workers have 
been widely implemented by the major browser vendors.


Compatibly?  Last I checked, for example, Blink doesn't support 
Dedicated Workers inside workers, only inside Window.  I agree that 
there is some subset of dedicated worker support that is widely 
implemented; I'm just not sure what that subset is.


-Boris



Re: CfC: Is Web Workers Ready for CR? deadline Dec 14

2015-11-30 Thread Xiaoqian Wu

> On 30 Nov 2015, at 10:02 PM, Boris Zbarsky  wrote:
> 
> On 11/30/15 8:31 AM, Xiaoqian Wu wrote:
>> The latest [TEST RESULTS] of Web Workers indicate that Dedicated Workers 
>> have been widely implemented by the major browser vendors.
> 
> Compatibly?  Last I checked, for example, Blink doesn't support Dedicated 
> Workers inside workers, only inside Window.  I agree that there is some 
> subset of dedicated worker support that is widely implemented; I'm just not 
> sure what that subset is.

Right, nested workers are at-risk[1] as well as shared-workers.

--
xiaoqian

[1] 
https://w3c.github.io/test-results/workers/dedicated-less-than-2#test-file-15 

> 
> -Boris
> 



Re: CfC: Is Web Workers Ready for CR? deadline Dec 14

2015-11-30 Thread Ms2ger
On 11/30/2015 02:31 PM, Xiaoqian Wu wrote:
> This is a call for comments regarding the next step of Web Workers.
> 
> The latest [TEST RESULTS] of Web Workers indicate that Dedicated
> Workers have been widely implemented by the major browser vendors.
> 
> [Diff] between the latest W3C WD and the WHATWG living standard
> suggests substantial changes about the WorkerLocation interface, and
> the test results of the [WorkerLocationTestCases] show that these
> changes have been adapted by more than two major browsers.
> 
> As for Shared workers, [TEST RESULTS] suggest that this feature is
> still poorly supported. Right now both Apple and Microsoft don’t
> intend to implement it, Chrome supports only a small part of it.
> There were issues raised about [Removing-Sharedworkers] on GitHub,
> one suggestion was to pull it out into a separate working note,
> whereas others thought it’s too early to do so.
> 
> Hence our questions to the group: Is the group still interested in
> moving Workers forward? Is it the right time to publish Workers as a
> CR? Should SharedWorkers be removed from this spec?
> 
> Please provide your thoughts on these questions by Dec 14 2015. If
> there’s no interest from the members to continue the work of
> WebWorkers in W3C, we will probably stop publishing new versions of
> this spec.
> 

Let's publish it as a REC; that no longer needs interop anyway (see:
DOM4 is a REC).

HTH
Ms2ger



CfC: Is Web Workers Ready for CR? deadline Dec 14

2015-11-30 Thread Xiaoqian Wu
This is a call for comments regarding the next step of Web Workers.

The latest [TEST RESULTS] of Web Workers indicate that Dedicated Workers have 
been widely implemented by the major browser vendors.

[Diff] between the latest W3C WD and the WHATWG living standard suggests 
substantial changes about the WorkerLocation interface, and the test results of 
the [WorkerLocationTestCases] show that these changes have been adapted by more 
than two major browsers.

As for Shared workers, [TEST RESULTS] suggest that this feature is still poorly 
supported. Right now both Apple and Microsoft don’t intend to implement it, 
Chrome supports only a small part of it. There were issues raised about 
[Removing-Sharedworkers] on GitHub, one suggestion was to pull it out into a 
separate working note, whereas others thought it’s too early to do so.

Hence our questions to the group: Is the group still interested in moving 
Workers forward? Is it the right time to publish Workers as a CR? Should 
SharedWorkers be removed from this spec?

Please provide your thoughts on these questions by Dec 14 2015. If there’s no 
interest from the members to continue the work of WebWorkers in W3C, we will 
probably stop publishing new versions of this spec.

Thanks.

-xiaoqian

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[TEST RESULTS]:
dedicatedworkers-all: https://w3c.github.io/test-results/workers/dedicated-all
dedicatedworkers-less-than-2: 
https://w3c.github.io/test-results/workers/dedicated-less-than-2
dedicatedworkers-complete-fails: 
https://w3c.github.io/test-results/workers/dedicated-complete-fails
workers-all: https://w3c.github.io/test-results/workers/all
workers-less-than-2: https://w3c.github.io/test-results/workers/less-than-2
workers-complete-fails: 
https://w3c.github.io/test-results/workers/complete-fails

[Diff]: 
https://www.diffchecker.com/5zbz229w

[WorkerLocationTestCases]: 
http://w3c.github.io/test-results/workers/all.html#test-file-9

[Removing-sharedworkers]: 
https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/315
https://github.com/w3c/workers/issues/2