Re: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-04-01 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
To close the loop, I renamed the spec to "HTML Imports", which is now at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webcomponents/raw-file/tip/spec/imports/index.html. P.S. Not an April Fool's joke. :DG<

Re: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-28 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Eric Bidelman wrote: > +1 on "HTML Imports" - I am okay with this. Despite it sounding like a front for a shady criminal organization. I can't complain. I mean, look at "Shadow DOM". :DG<

Re: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-28 Thread Eric Bidelman
+1 on "HTML Imports" - On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Brian Kardell wrote: > > On Mar 28, 2013 11:45 AM, "Dimitri Glazkov" wrote: > > > > So. : > > > > rel type: "import" > > > > spec name: > > > > 1) "HTML Imports" > > 2) "Web Imports" > > > > :DG< > > > > Makes sense to me! >

Re: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-28 Thread Brian Kardell
On Mar 28, 2013 11:45 AM, "Dimitri Glazkov" wrote: > > So. : > > rel type: "import" > > spec name: > > 1) "HTML Imports" > 2) "Web Imports" > > :DG< > Makes sense to me!

Re: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-28 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
So. : rel type: "import" spec name: 1) "HTML Imports" 2) "Web Imports" :DG<

Re: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-27 Thread Dominic Cooney
"import" sounds good. Dominic On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Steve Orvell wrote: > Err, yeah, thanks for pointing that out. > > I also like "import" or "imports." > > This makes sense given that the rel attribute is described as defining the > relationship between the resource being loaded a

Re: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-27 Thread Eric Bidelman
My association for HTML links is . Seems too confusing. FWIW, I conducted a small survey to see what the broader community's mental model of this is: https://plus.google.com/u/0/118075919496626375791/posts/3GYkmd4UqLC. Got about 42 responses; the top 3 being: 1. Web Import - 14 votes 2. Web Pack

Re: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-27 Thread Steve Orvell
Err, yeah, thanks for pointing that out. I also like "import" or "imports." This makes sense given that the rel attribute is described as defining the relationship between the resource being loaded and the document (likely outdated spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/links.html#adef-rel).

Re: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-27 Thread Brian Kardell
On Mar 27, 2013 2:27 PM, "Scott Miles" wrote: > > The problem I'm trying to get at, is that while a 'custom element' has a chance of meeting your 1-6 criterion, the thing on the other end of has no such qualifications. As designed, the target of this link is basically arbitrary HTML. > > This is

Re: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-27 Thread Angelina Fabbro
Changing my vote to 'web import'. I think that works just as well, if not better, than 'include'. On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Eric Bidelman wrote: > My association for HTML links is . Seems too confusing. > > FWIW, I conducted a small survey to see what the > broader community's mental mode

Re: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-27 Thread Steve Orvell
The word "component" will be used as a synonym for a custom element. Since this spec is designed to load various html resources that may include custom element definitions, attaching the word component to this spec is just confusing. We're loading html so rel="html" is most straightforward. The na

Re: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-27 Thread Scott Miles
The problem I'm trying to get at, is that while a 'custom element' has a chance of meeting your 1-6 criterion, the thing on the other end of has no such qualifications. As designed, the target of this link is basically arbitrary HTML. This is why I'm struggling with . Scott On Wed, Mar 27, 201

Re: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-27 Thread Angelina Fabbro
Just going to drop this in here for discussion. Let's try and get at what a just a component 'is': A gold-standard component: 1. Should do one thing well 2. Should contain all the necessary code to do that one thing (HTML, JS, CSS) 3. Should be modular (and thus reusable) 4. Should be encapsulate

Re: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-26 Thread Scott Miles
Forgive me if I'm perseverating, but do you imagine 'component' that is included to be generic HTML content, and maybe some scripts or some custom elements? I'm curious what is it you envision when you say 'component', to test my previous assertion about this word. Scott On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at

Re: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-26 Thread Angelina Fabbro
'Component Include' 'Component Include' describes what the markup is doing, and I like that a lot. The syntax is similar to including a stylesheet or a script and so this name should be evocative enough for even a novice to understand what is implied by it. - Angelina On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:1

Re: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-26 Thread Scott Miles
Fwiw, my main concern is that for my team and for lots of other people I communicate with, 'component' is basically synonymous with 'custom element'. In that context, 'component' referring to chunk-of-web-resources-loaded-via-link is problematic, even if it's not wrong, per se. We never complained

Re: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-26 Thread Ryan Seddon
I like the idea of "package" seems all encompassing which captures the requirements nicely. That or perhaps "resource", but then resource seems singular. Or perhaps "component-package" so it is obvious that it's tied to web components? -Ryan On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:03 AM, Dimitri Glazkov wrot

Re: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-26 Thread Ladislav Thon
> should be called something more specific, having to do > with enabling modularity and facilitating component dependency > management that it actually does. > Component import or include. Or even component link, using not only link type, but also the word "link" itself :-) LT

Re: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-26 Thread Brian Kardell
On Mar 25, 2013 3:03 PM, "Dimitri Glazkov" wrote: > > Hello folks! > > It seems that we've had a bit of informal feedback on the "Web > Components" as the name for the spec (cc'd some > of the "feedbackers"). > > So... these malcontents are suggesting that "Web Components" is more a > of a genera

RE: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-26 Thread Goyal, Neel
Kardell; Steve Orvell; seddon.r...@gmail.com; ladi...@gmail.com; Dominic Cooney Subject: [webcomponents]: Naming the Baby Hello folks! It seems that we've had a bit of informal feedback on the "Web Components" as the name for the spec (cc'd some of the "feedbackers&qu

[webcomponents]: Naming the Baby

2013-03-25 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Hello folks! It seems that we've had a bit of informal feedback on the "Web Components" as the name for the spec (cc'd some of the "feedbackers"). So... these malcontents are suggesting that "Web Components" is more a of a general name for all the cool things we're inventing, and should be call