Re: TPAC agenda - APIs
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:45:17 +0100, SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW) bs3...@att.com wrote: Hi Charles, I have an agenda item for the AOB section or wherever it can fit. I will be spending most of the time with DAP and part with Webapps (Widgets), but will try to balance the agendas to be in the APIs meeting as much as possible. The basic question I have is what is the relationship of the following specs to the HTML5 package (being normatively referenced by HTML5). Is it expected that they will reach LCWD stage along with HTML5? ... Thisis effectively in a future plans session (the final session of the meeting). But it is expected that most of them will reach last call quite soon - for a couple of them the editor already thinks they are ready (but we will put it to the group first...). - Cross-Origin Resource Sharing (CORS) - Server-Sent Events - Web Sockets - Web Workers The database (or offline storeage or whatever you want to call it) specs will be discussed as a block in the existing agenda. These are not normatively referenced by HTML5: - Web Database - WebSimpleDB API There does not seem to be a lot of discussion on some of these specs, although there are periodic updates. Is there expected to be a period of more active group discussion prior to LCWD for those that have been moving along more quietly? Presumably. There will in any case be a call for consensus before that happens - which is a trigger to start discussion if you think it is warranted. (I can't force the group to discuss things - that's up to the individual members of the group). cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http://www.opera.com
Re: TPAC agenda - APIs
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:11:23 +0100, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Oct 27, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: there is a proposed timeline at http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/TPAC2009APIs#Agenda_Items ... I am extremely interested in the CORS discussion, and I feel I can provide helpful input in this discussion. But I have a prior commitment with the other HTML WG co-chairs from 11-12 on Tesday. I would appreciate if that topic could be swapped with another. The topics where I feel my contribution is less essential would be Progress Events, DOM3 Events, Views and XHR1, so if we can swap in either of those I would greatly appreciate it. OK, so I propose to swap the CORS discussion with the DOM 3 Events discussion, unless someone screams today... cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http://www.opera.com
Re: TPAC agenda - APIs
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote: Hi folks, there is a proposed timeline at http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/TPAC2009APIs#Agenda_Items Please have a look, and if you think your input is important for any session but you will be in a different session, or only participating remotely, please let us know ASAP so we can attempt to make necessary arrangements (dial-up might be hard, but we can move the sessions that are not joint sessions). Note that some sessions have fairly small things in them. It would be nice to have some more free time, although we will probably manage to soak it up with discussion of other issues. Regarding the joint session with DAP; The filesystem spec seems... how should I say this politely.. to be lacking details. In fact, I can't find a single thing it defines. Normatively or informatively. :) Is it expected to get some more meat on its bones before the meeting? I'll also note that it seems to be lacking any requirements regarding security. / Jonas
Re: TPAC agenda - APIs
On Oct 29, 2009, at 08:38 , Jonas Sicking wrote: Regarding the joint session with DAP; The filesystem spec seems... how should I say this politely.. to be lacking details. In fact, I can't find a single thing it defines. Normatively or informatively. :) Is it expected to get some more meat on its bones before the meeting? I'll also note that it seems to be lacking any requirements regarding security. Are you talking about DAP's FS API? Well yeah, we got started pretty recently. We have however had inputs on this topic from Nokia, BONDI, PhoneGap, and going back before inception Opera. The idea is that DAP would only do what's not already done by the File API (I don't know if there's a point in merging, or something like that — it might be worth discussing), and that the FS should work in a way that fits nicely with File. I think that's already good grounds for discussion. -- Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/
Re: TPAC agenda - APIs
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:43:15 +0100, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:11:23 +0100, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Oct 27, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: there is a proposed timeline at http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/TPAC2009APIs#Agenda_Items ... I am extremely interested in the CORS discussion, and I feel I can provide helpful input in this discussion. But I have a prior commitment with the other HTML WG co-chairs from 11-12 on Tesday. I would appreciate if that topic could be swapped with another. The topics where I feel my contribution is less essential would be Progress Events, DOM3 Events, Views and XHR1, so if we can swap in either of those I would greatly appreciate it. OK, so I propose to swap the CORS discussion with the DOM 3 Events discussion, unless someone screams today... Art did. Alternative, swap it with the databases and offline storage session. Preferences? cheers chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http://www.opera.com
CORS: Monday Nov 2 13:30-15:00? [Was: Re: TPAC agenda - APIs]
On Oct 29, 2009, at 8:19 AM, ext Charles McCathieNevile wrote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:43:15 +0100, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:11:23 +0100, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Oct 27, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: there is a proposed timeline at http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/TPAC2009APIs#Agenda_Items ... I am extremely interested in the CORS discussion, and I feel I can provide helpful input in this discussion. But I have a prior commitment with the other HTML WG co-chairs from 11-12 on Tesday. I would appreciate if that topic could be swapped with another. The topics where I feel my contribution is less essential would be Progress Events, DOM3 Events, Views and XHR1, so if we can swap in either of those I would greatly appreciate it. OK, so I propose to swap the CORS discussion with the DOM 3 Events discussion, unless someone screams today... Art did. Alternative, swap it with the databases and offline storage session. Preferences? I can rearrange the Widgets agenda [1] such that I can attend a CORS discussion on Monday November 2 from 13:30-15:00. So yes, please speak up by the end of today. -Regards, Art Barstow [1] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/TPAC2009Widgets
Re: TPAC agenda - APIs
On Oct 27, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: Hi folks, there is a proposed timeline at http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/TPAC2009APIs#Agenda_Items Please have a look, and if you think your input is important for any session but you will be in a different session, or only participating remotely, please let us know ASAP so we can attempt to make necessary arrangements (dial-up might be hard, but we can move the sessions that are not joint sessions). Note that some sessions have fairly small things in them. It would be nice to have some more free time, although we will probably manage to soak it up with discussion of other issues. I am extremely interested in the CORS discussion, and I feel I can provide helpful input in this discussion. But I have a prior commitment with the other HTML WG co-chairs from 11-12 on Tesday. I would appreciate if that topic could be swapped with another. The topics where I feel my contribution is less essential would be Progress Events, DOM3 Events, Views and XHR1, so if we can swap in either of those I would greatly appreciate it. Regards, Maciej
TPAC agenda - APIs
Hi folks, there is a proposed timeline at http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/TPAC2009APIs#Agenda_Items Please have a look, and if you think your input is important for any session but you will be in a different session, or only participating remotely, please let us know ASAP so we can attempt to make necessary arrangements (dial-up might be hard, but we can move the sessions that are not joint sessions). Note that some sessions have fairly small things in them. It would be nice to have some more free time, although we will probably manage to soak it up with discussion of other issues. cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http://www.opera.com
RE: TPAC agenda - APIs
Hi Charles, I have an agenda item for the AOB section or wherever it can fit. I will be spending most of the time with DAP and part with Webapps (Widgets), but will try to balance the agendas to be in the APIs meeting as much as possible. The basic question I have is what is the relationship of the following specs to the HTML5 package (being normatively referenced by HTML5). Is it expected that they will reach LCWD stage along with HTML5? - Cross-Origin Resource Sharing (CORS) - Server-Sent Events - Web Sockets - Web Workers These are not normatively referenced by HTML5: - Web Database - WebSimpleDB API There does not seem to be a lot of discussion on some of these specs, although there are periodic updates. Is there expected to be a period of more active group discussion prior to LCWD for those that have been moving along more quietly? I have some specific questions on the specs, that I will send in separate emails. It would be helpful to be able to discuss some of these points in a F2F setting, at least any significant ones that can't be resolved by email in advance. Best regards, Bryan Sullivan | ATT -Original Message- From: public-webapps-requ...@w3.org [mailto:public-webapps-requ...@w3.org] On Behalf Of Charles McCathieNevile Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:09 AM To: WebApps WG Subject: TPAC agenda - APIs Hi folks, there is a proposed timeline at http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/TPAC2009APIs#Agenda_Items Please have a look, and if you think your input is important for any session but you will be in a different session, or only participating remotely, please let us know ASAP so we can attempt to make necessary arrangements (dial-up might be hard, but we can move the sessions that are not joint sessions). Note that some sessions have fairly small things in them. It would be nice to have some more free time, although we will probably manage to soak it up with discussion of other issues. cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http://www.opera.com
