Re: [webvr] Re: [gamepad] Missing VRPose for tracked controllers

[Kearwood "Kip" Gilbert]

Brandon Jones (Google) has made some experimental WebVR Chromium builds that 
include support for the HTC Vive VR motion controls.  We would like to propose 
this as a standard and update to the GamePad API.

Brandon has started a thread on w3.org  that gives some 
background:

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2016AprJun/0052.html 


The WebVR API 1.0 has already extended the GamePad API by adding a “displayID” 
attribute:

https://mozvr.com/webvr-spec/#interface-gamepad 


The proposal is to take this further and expose an optional “pose” attribute, 
which would return the same attributes within the VRPose:

https://mozvr.com/webvr-spec/#interface-vrpose 


Cheers,
 - Kearwood “Kip” Gilbert
   Platform Engineer, Mozilla VR Team

> On May 24, 2016, at 12:22 AM, Sven Neuhaus  wrote:
> 
> Hello Florian,
> 
> Thanks for pointing out the WebVR spec draft.
> 
> The WebVR draft dated April 1st contains a Gamepad interface expansion
> (§2.11), however it only extends it by a DisplayId.
> It should also add a VRPose for tracked controllers.
> 
> I think adding a VRPose could have benefits for non-VR applications as
> well (think about the Nintendo Wii controllers!), however. So my
> suggestion to add it to the Gamepad API still stands.
> 
> Regards,
> -Sven Neuhaus
> 
> Am 23.05.2016 um 15:52 schrieb Florian Bösch:
>> The WebVR API models HMD pose and will model the gesture controllers.
>> https://mozvr.com/webvr-spec/
>> 
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Sven Neuhaus > > wrote:
> 
>>I read the gamepad API description at
>>https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Gamepad
>> 
>>I think the gamepad API should support a VRpose for gamepad controllers
>>like the ones included with the HTC Vive and the upcoming Oculus Touch
>>controllers.
>> 
>>I suggest that you add a getPose() method that returns a VRPose object
>>for controllers that support tracking.
>> 
>>The "orientation" property of the VRPose object could also be useful for
>>some gamepads that include IMUs for orientation tracking.
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Re: [webvr] Re: [gamepad] Missing VRPose for tracked controllers

[Florian Bösch]

You should discuss this on the WebVR ML as well, it's the main
communication channel for that, and since it has impact on their spec it
should be coordinated.

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Sven Neuhaus  wrote:

> Hello Florian,
>
> Thanks for pointing out the WebVR spec draft.
>
> The WebVR draft dated April 1st contains a Gamepad interface expansion
> (§2.11), however it only extends it by a DisplayId.
> It should also add a VRPose for tracked controllers.
>
> I think adding a VRPose could have benefits for non-VR applications as
> well (think about the Nintendo Wii controllers!), however. So my
> suggestion to add it to the Gamepad API still stands.
>
> Regards,
> -Sven Neuhaus
>
> Am 23.05.2016 um 15:52 schrieb Florian Bösch:
> > The WebVR API models HMD pose and will model the gesture controllers.
> > https://mozvr.com/webvr-spec/
> >
> > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Sven Neuhaus  > > wrote:
>
> > I read the gamepad API description at
> > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Gamepad
> >
> > I think the gamepad API should support a VRpose for gamepad
> controllers
> > like the ones included with the HTC Vive and the upcoming Oculus
> Touch
> > controllers.
> >
> > I suggest that you add a getPose() method that returns a VRPose
> object
> > for controllers that support tracking.
> >
> > The "orientation" property of the VRPose object could also be useful
> for
> > some gamepads that include IMUs for orientation tracking.
>
>

[webvr] Re: [gamepad] Missing VRPose for tracked controllers

[Sven Neuhaus]

Hello Florian,

Thanks for pointing out the WebVR spec draft.

The WebVR draft dated April 1st contains a Gamepad interface expansion
(§2.11), however it only extends it by a DisplayId.
It should also add a VRPose for tracked controllers.

I think adding a VRPose could have benefits for non-VR applications as
well (think about the Nintendo Wii controllers!), however. So my
suggestion to add it to the Gamepad API still stands.

Regards,
-Sven Neuhaus

Am 23.05.2016 um 15:52 schrieb Florian Bösch:
> The WebVR API models HMD pose and will model the gesture controllers.
> https://mozvr.com/webvr-spec/
> 
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Sven Neuhaus  > wrote:

> I read the gamepad API description at
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Gamepad
> 
> I think the gamepad API should support a VRpose for gamepad controllers
> like the ones included with the HTC Vive and the upcoming Oculus Touch
> controllers.
> 
> I suggest that you add a getPose() method that returns a VRPose object
> for controllers that support tracking.
> 
> The "orientation" property of the VRPose object could also be useful for
> some gamepads that include IMUs for orientation tracking.