Re: (aside) MIME type
On 2012-02-21 21:32, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: * Mark Baker wrote: I wish they did, consistently. See RFC 4288 (just media type) and the registry itself (MIME media type) http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/index.html. Plus they're still routinely referred to as MIME types in many IETF contexts, including the ietf-types list! Changing the name on the IANA page is a matter of doing as asked in the footer, namely mailing the webmaster about it. I did that some time ago for some broken link I think, worked very nicely. In the meantime, the IANA page has been fixed. Best regards, Julian
Re: (aside) MIME type
On Saturday, February 18, 2012, 7:02:45 PM, Anne wrote: AvK On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:47:08 +0100, Paul Libbrecht p...@hoplahup.net AvK wrote: Well, I think it's the duty of the W3C to use the vocabulary of the people that define this kind of thing. AvK FWIW, the duty of the W3C is to bring the web to its full potential, not AvK quibble over terminology. So just call it 'Internet Media Type' like the IETF and IANA do, and quit quibbling. An informative aside (previously called MIME type) can be added for folks not up to speed. -- Chris Lilley Technical Director, Interaction Domain W3C Graphics Activity Lead, Fonts Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG Member, CSS, WebFonts, SVG Working Groups
Re: (aside) MIME type
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Chris Lilley ch...@w3.org wrote: So just call it 'Internet Media Type' like the IETF and IANA do, and quit quibbling. An informative aside (previously called MIME type) can be added for folks not up to speed. That would be incorrect. It's still called the MIME type; that's what people know it by, and everyone knows what it means. Ignore misguided attempts by standards bodies to impose changes on a well-established, widely understood term, and just call it what it's called. (If you think it's quibbling, that means you think it's a waste of time to worry about either way. You're asking for a bunch of changes to be made to specs to change terminology, so you do seem to care; so please don't say that other people are quibbling.) -- Glenn Maynard
Re: (aside) MIME type
* Mark Baker wrote: I wish they did, consistently. See RFC 4288 (just media type) and the registry itself (MIME media type) http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/index.html. Plus they're still routinely referred to as MIME types in many IETF contexts, including the ietf-types list! Changing the name on the IANA page is a matter of doing as asked in the footer, namely mailing the webmaster about it. I did that some time ago for some broken link I think, worked very nicely. -- Björn Höhrmann · mailto:bjo...@hoehrmann.de · http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de Am Badedeich 7 · Telefon: +49(0)160/4415681 · http://www.bjoernsworld.de 25899 Dagebüll · PGP Pub. KeyID: 0xA4357E78 · http://www.websitedev.de/
Re: (aside) MIME type
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.dewrote: The correct term IMHO is (Internet) Media Type, so disambiguation is possible. I don't believe it's helpful to maintain different sets of terminology. Use the official term, and when disambiguation is needed, it's trivial to do so. MIME type is what people in the real world call it. I don't believe it's useful to try to push terminology which is different from what things are actually known by, least of all when it leads to ambiguity. -- Glenn Maynard
Re: (aside) MIME type (was Re: Re: [Clipboard] checking if implementation allows reading/writing a given type to the OS clipboard)
WHEN I registered a media-type on the ietf list I have been quite much hit as the first comment one says media-type nowadays. And indeed MIME is meant for email originally. So I guess politically media-type is a requirement. Should I dig for a formal requirement? paul Le 18 févr. 2012 à 00:54, Hallvord Reiar Michaelsen Steen a écrit : Hallvord, it should be called media-types btw, or? IMHO the term MIME type is more widely used and also less ambiguous than media type, so I'd definitely prefer using the former if I can get away with it :) -- Hallvord R. M. Steen Core tester, Opera Software
Re: (aside) MIME type
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 10:15:28 +0100, Paul Libbrecht p...@hoplahup.net wrote: WHEN I registered a media-type on the ietf list I have been quite much hit as the first comment one says media-type nowadays. And indeed MIME is meant for email originally. So I guess politically media-type is a requirement. Should I dig for a formal requirement? HTML and other specifications use MIME type. Media type is ambiguous with CSS. -- Anne van Kesteren http://annevankesteren.nl/
Re: (aside) MIME type
WHEN I registered a media-type on the ietf list I have been quite much hit as the first comment one says media-type sorry for the capitalization nowadays. And indeed MIME is meant for email originally. So I guess politically media-type is a requirement. Should I dig for a formal requirement? HTML and other specifications use MIME type. Well, I think it's the duty of the W3C to use the vocabulary of the people that define this kind of thing. Do you have a pointer to a recommendation usage of mime-type? Media type is ambiguous with CSS. Why? paul
Re: (aside) MIME type
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:47:08 +0100, Paul Libbrecht p...@hoplahup.net wrote: WHEN I registered a media-type on the ietf list I have been quite much hit as the first comment one says media-type nowadays. Well, on one hand it's probably polite and correct to let the group that defines a piece of the puzzle decide a name. On the other hand, I find their wish to rebrand a long-established vocabulary and concept strange. I wonder if they ever considered that at some point, a word stops being a Technology as defined by a specific subset of people and becomes simply Language, defined by its users collectively. By now, MIME type is a part of our language.. Media type is ambiguous with CSS. Why? Just because CSS also defines and uses media type. Luckily, the human mind does some namespace processing which is subconscious and really efficient.. ;-) -- Hallvord R. M. Steen, Core Tester, Opera Software http://www.opera.com http://my.opera.com/hallvors/
Re: (aside) MIME type
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:47:08 +0100, Paul Libbrecht p...@hoplahup.net wrote: Well, I think it's the duty of the W3C to use the vocabulary of the people that define this kind of thing. FWIW, the duty of the W3C is to bring the web to its full potential, not quibble over terminology. -- Anne van Kesteren http://annevankesteren.nl/
