Re: [Publicpolicy] Trump
I'm with Gerv on this. *I* endorse the idea, but the WMF should absolutely take no stance on the politics of any nation-state other than on specific topics. If Trump says something stupid about one of our policy areas we should criticise him for it; if he says something sensible about one of them, we should welcome it. But the WMF totally shouldn't intervene in political campaigns in the more sense, even if the IRS code didn't forbid it. On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 at 15:50 Veni Markovski wrote: > No. > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 09:40 James Salsman wrote: > > Should the Foundation endorse this effort? > > > http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/meet-the-hamilton-electors-hoping-for-an-electoral-college-revolt/508433/ > > ___ > Publicpolicy mailing list > Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy > > ___ > Publicpolicy mailing list > Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy > ___ Publicpolicy mailing list Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy
Re: [Publicpolicy] Trump
No. On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 09:40 James Salsman wrote: > Should the Foundation endorse this effort? > > > http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/meet-the-hamilton-electors-hoping-for-an-electoral-college-revolt/508433/ > > ___ > Publicpolicy mailing list > Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy > ___ Publicpolicy mailing list Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy
Re: [Publicpolicy] Trump
So, basically, do something that directly violates federal law? "Under the Internal Revenue Code, all section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office. Contributions to political campaign funds or public statements of position (verbal or written) made on behalf of the organization in favor of or in opposition to any candidate for public office clearly violate the prohibition against political campaign activity." [1] No, we shouldn't do that. Regards, Kirill [1] https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/the-restriction-of-political-campaign-intervention-by-section-501-c-3-tax-exempt-organizations On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 5:33 AM, James Salsman wrote: > Should the Foundation endorse this effort? > > http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/meet- > the-hamilton-electors-hoping-for-an-electoral-college-revolt/508433/ > > ___ > Publicpolicy mailing list > Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy > ___ Publicpolicy mailing list Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy
Re: [Publicpolicy] Trump
On 22/11/16 10:33, James Salsman wrote: > Should the Foundation endorse this effort? > > http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/meet-the-hamilton-electors-hoping-for-an-electoral-college-revolt/508433/ Er, what? In what universe would it be a good idea for the Wikimedia Foundation to get involved in American electoral politics in any way, let alone that way? Gerv ___ Publicpolicy mailing list Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy
Re: [Publicpolicy] Trump
Should the Foundation endorse this effort? http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/meet-the-hamilton-electors-hoping-for-an-electoral-college-revolt/508433/ ___ Publicpolicy mailing list Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy
Re: [Publicpolicy] Trump
I speak only as a resident of Northern California, and a student of American politics. Regardless of the concern, I suggest urgency. Trump will be quite favorable to corporate interests broadly, and unless a given issue can wait 2-4 years, the window for modest liberal consideration closes upon his inauguration. We tend to respond quickly to charismatic leaders in this country. However, if you want to reach Mr. Trump, I suppose talking to libertarian or paleoconservative influencers might be useful. On Friday, November 11, 2016, wrote: > Send Publicpolicy mailing list submissions to > publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > publicpolicy-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > publicpolicy-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Publicpolicy digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: Trump (Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov) >2. Updating the Public Policy Portal: request forfeedback. > (Jan Gerlach) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 15:16:51 +0100 > From: Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov > > To: Publicpolicy Group for Wikimedia > > > Subject: Re: [Publicpolicy] Trump > Message-ID: > efy8gsg09h+ao6v8g...@mail.gmail.com > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi John, > > I have been trying to wrap my head around this as well. From a European > perspective I expect the US trade policy to drastically change, so that's > one thing. TTIP seems highly unlikely now. > > Weren't the republicans somewhat moreopen to copyright changes in general? > Anyhow, I am in DC for OpenCon and would be greet to perhaps meet-up and > discuss. John & Julia from WMDE are also in town and I know other > Wikimedians will also be coming. > > Cheers, > Dimi > > 2016-11-10 0:19 GMT+01:00 John Sadowski >: > > > Hi all, > > > > I'd like to start a discussion—what implications does Trump's election > > combined with Republican dominance in Congress have for the movement's > > public policy efforts? > > > > It would seem that, at the very least, net neutrality, intermediary > > safe-harbor, and perhaps the 2018 copyright expiration are at risk. I > > figure a proactive approach would be best—we should move fast to reach > out > > to Congresspeople to make the effects of such legislation known to them > > before it gets introduced. > > > > At Wikimedia DC we've visited Congressional staff in the past, and we > > could certainly do it again. What else can we do? What current WMF > policy > > activities or connections can we extend? What are EFF and the policy > arms > > of Google, Facebook, etc. thinking about right now? > > > > Thanks. > > John > > > > ___ > > Publicpolicy mailing list > > Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy > > > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/publicpolicy/ > attachments/20161110/331dfa95/attachment-0001.html> > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 14:26:52 -0800 > From: Jan Gerlach > > To: Publicpolicy Group for Wikimedia > > > Subject: [Publicpolicy] Updating the Public Policy Portal: request for > feedback. > Message-ID: > l...@mail.gmail.com > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Dear all > > Our Public Policy site <https://policy.wikimedia.org/> is now a little > more > than one year old, so we are getting ready to update the text. Over on Meta > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Public_policy/Update> you can find these > draft changes. > > We invite you to give us your input and feedback about these changes on > the corresponding discussion page > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Public_policy>. We will post the new > changes on the site on November 28. We will of course continue to > periodically update this text on a regular basis, so you are welcome to > continue to provide suggestions. > > If you have additional related resources, such as your ch
Re: [Publicpolicy] Trump
Hi John, I have been trying to wrap my head around this as well. From a European perspective I expect the US trade policy to drastically change, so that's one thing. TTIP seems highly unlikely now. Weren't the republicans somewhat moreopen to copyright changes in general? Anyhow, I am in DC for OpenCon and would be greet to perhaps meet-up and discuss. John & Julia from WMDE are also in town and I know other Wikimedians will also be coming. Cheers, Dimi 2016-11-10 0:19 GMT+01:00 John Sadowski : > Hi all, > > I'd like to start a discussion—what implications does Trump's election > combined with Republican dominance in Congress have for the movement's > public policy efforts? > > It would seem that, at the very least, net neutrality, intermediary > safe-harbor, and perhaps the 2018 copyright expiration are at risk. I > figure a proactive approach would be best—we should move fast to reach out > to Congresspeople to make the effects of such legislation known to them > before it gets introduced. > > At Wikimedia DC we've visited Congressional staff in the past, and we > could certainly do it again. What else can we do? What current WMF policy > activities or connections can we extend? What are EFF and the policy arms > of Google, Facebook, etc. thinking about right now? > > Thanks. > John > > ___ > Publicpolicy mailing list > Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy > > ___ Publicpolicy mailing list Publicpolicy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy
