Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2013-02-07 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Thu, 2013-02-07 at 10:48 +0100, Mikel Astiz wrote: > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: > > After some discussion in IRC, it looks like something like this might be > > acceptable to everyone (well, the involved parties have been just Mikel, > > David and me): > > > > Keep por

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2013-02-07 Thread Mikel Astiz
Hi Tanu, On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: > On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 15:46 +0200, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: >> On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 10:43 +0100, David Henningsson wrote: >> > On 02/04/2013 09:59 AM, Mikel Astiz wrote: >> > > We decided Immediately before 3.0 that some Bluetooth ports

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2013-02-06 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 15:46 +0200, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: > On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 10:43 +0100, David Henningsson wrote: > > On 02/04/2013 09:59 AM, Mikel Astiz wrote: > > > We decided Immediately before 3.0 that some Bluetooth ports should be > > > merged (commit 40329acc1a28145643e49207e9d65cd05bbda

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2013-02-06 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Wed, 2013-02-06 at 14:57 +0100, Mikel Astiz wrote: > Hi Tanu, > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-02-05 at 08:44 +0100, David Henningsson wrote: > >> On 02/04/2013 05:06 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: > >> > If the phone uses PulseAudio path configuration files

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2013-02-06 Thread David Henningsson
On 02/06/2013 12:48 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: On Tue, 2013-02-05 at 08:44 +0100, David Henningsson wrote: On 02/04/2013 05:06 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: If the phone uses PulseAudio path configuration files for the ALSA configuration, the Bluetooth port could be flagged with a property. If the pho

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2013-02-06 Thread Mikel Astiz
Hi Tanu, On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: > On Tue, 2013-02-05 at 08:44 +0100, David Henningsson wrote: >> On 02/04/2013 05:06 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: >> > If the phone uses PulseAudio path configuration files for the ALSA >> > configuration, the Bluetooth port could be flag

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2013-02-06 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Tue, 2013-02-05 at 08:44 +0100, David Henningsson wrote: > On 02/04/2013 05:06 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: > > If the phone uses PulseAudio path configuration files for the ALSA > > configuration, the Bluetooth port could be flagged with a property. If > > the phone uses UCM, I think the UCM config

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2013-02-05 Thread Mikel Astiz
Hi David, On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:44 AM, David Henningsson wrote: > On 02/04/2013 05:06 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: >> >> On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 16:30 +0100, David Henningsson wrote: >>> >>> On 02/04/2013 04:07 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 15:50 +0100, David Henningsson w

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2013-02-05 Thread David Henningsson
On 02/04/2013 05:06 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 16:30 +0100, David Henningsson wrote: On 02/04/2013 04:07 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 15:50 +0100, David Henningsson wrote: If A2DP and HSP audio go through different sound cards, we have no possibility to me

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2013-02-04 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 16:30 +0100, David Henningsson wrote: > On 02/04/2013 04:07 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: > > On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 15:50 +0100, David Henningsson wrote: > >> If A2DP and HSP audio go through different sound cards, we have no > >> possibility to merge them right now. > >> > >> Not

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2013-02-04 Thread David Henningsson
On 02/04/2013 04:07 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 15:50 +0100, David Henningsson wrote: On 02/04/2013 03:44 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: I don't think merging ports with sinks/sources is the most relevant question here. The question is how to simultaneously present a Bluetooth head

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2013-02-04 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 15:50 +0100, David Henningsson wrote: > On 02/04/2013 03:44 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: > >>> I don't think merging ports with sinks/sources is the most relevant > >>> question here. The question is how to simultaneously present a Bluetooth > >>> headset as a single routing endpo

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2013-02-04 Thread David Henningsson
On 02/04/2013 03:44 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 15:05 +0100, David Henningsson wrote: On 02/04/2013 02:46 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 10:43 +0100, David Henningsson wrote: So; if port are merged with sinks/sources, I assume you would like this merged objec

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2013-02-04 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 15:05 +0100, David Henningsson wrote: > On 02/04/2013 02:46 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: > > On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 10:43 +0100, David Henningsson wrote: > >> So; if port are merged with sinks/sources, I assume you would like this > >> merged object to be once per stream (i e diffe

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2013-02-04 Thread David Henningsson
On 02/04/2013 02:46 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 10:43 +0100, David Henningsson wrote: On 02/04/2013 09:59 AM, Mikel Astiz wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: Yes, I've held the opinion for quite some time now that sinks/sources should be merged with

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2013-02-04 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 10:43 +0100, David Henningsson wrote: > On 02/04/2013 09:59 AM, Mikel Astiz wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: > >> Yes, I've held the opinion for quite some time now that sinks/sources > >> should be merged with ports. It's a big change and does

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2013-02-04 Thread David Henningsson
On 02/04/2013 09:59 AM, Mikel Astiz wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: Yes, I've held the opinion for quite some time now that sinks/sources should be merged with ports. It's a big change and doesn't bring any new features in itself, so I don't consider it as a high-pr

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2013-02-04 Thread Mikel Astiz
Hi, On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 16:42 +0200, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: >> On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 16:25 +0200, Luiz Augusto von Dentz wrote: >> > Hi David, >> > >> > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:14 PM, David Henningsson >> > wrote: >> > > On 11/27/2012 02

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2012-12-06 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 09:31 +0100, Mikel Astiz wrote: > >>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: > >>> > I've changed my mind about the last point. Ports are not really that > close to the ideal "routing endpoint" concept. For example, on cellular > phones, pulseaud

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2012-12-05 Thread Mikel Astiz
Hi Tanu, On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:42 PM, David Henningsson wrote: > On 12/04/2012 05:07 AM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: >> >> On Sun, 2012-12-02 at 22:33 +0200, Janos Kovacs wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: >>> I've changed my mind about the last poi

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2012-12-04 Thread David Henningsson
On 12/04/2012 05:07 AM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: On Sun, 2012-12-02 at 22:33 +0200, Janos Kovacs wrote: Hi, On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: I've changed my mind about the last point. Ports are not really that close to the ideal "routing endpoint" concept. For example, on ce

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2012-12-03 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Sun, 2012-12-02 at 22:33 +0200, Janos Kovacs wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: > > > I've changed my mind about the last point. Ports are not really that > > close to the ideal "routing endpoint" concept. For example, on cellular > > phones, pulseaudio may

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2012-12-02 Thread Janos Kovacs
Hi, On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: > I've changed my mind about the last point. Ports are not really that > close to the ideal "routing endpoint" concept. For example, on cellular > phones, pulseaudio may not have access to the actual audio data to and > from the cellular

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2012-11-28 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 18:32 +0100, Mikel Astiz wrote: > From: Mikel Astiz > > This patchset extends the previous patch (resent unmodified here) with > the policy change suggested by Tanu. > > It seems no conclusion was reached about the names etc. but I believe > this is the best alternative wit

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2012-11-28 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 16:42 +0200, Tanu Kaskinen wrote: > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 16:25 +0200, Luiz Augusto von Dentz wrote: > > Hi David, > > > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:14 PM, David Henningsson > > wrote: > > > On 11/27/2012 02:35 PM, Luiz Augusto von Dentz wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi Mikel, > > >

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2012-11-28 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 16:25 +0200, Luiz Augusto von Dentz wrote: > Hi David, > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:14 PM, David Henningsson > wrote: > > On 11/27/2012 02:35 PM, Luiz Augusto von Dentz wrote: > >> > >> Hi Mikel, > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Mikel Astiz > >> wrote: > >>> > >

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2012-11-28 Thread David Henningsson
On 11/28/2012 03:25 PM, Luiz Augusto von Dentz wrote: Hi David, On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:14 PM, David Henningsson wrote: On 11/27/2012 02:35 PM, Luiz Augusto von Dentz wrote: Hi Mikel, On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Mikel Astiz wrote: Hi Luiz, On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Luiz A

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2012-11-28 Thread Luiz Augusto von Dentz
Hi David, On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:14 PM, David Henningsson wrote: > On 11/27/2012 02:35 PM, Luiz Augusto von Dentz wrote: >> >> Hi Mikel, >> >> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Mikel Astiz >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Luiz, >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Luiz Augusto von Dentz >>> wrote: >

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2012-11-28 Thread David Henningsson
On 11/27/2012 02:35 PM, Luiz Augusto von Dentz wrote: Hi Mikel, On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Mikel Astiz wrote: Hi Luiz, On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Luiz Augusto von Dentz wrote: Hi Mikel, On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Mikel Astiz wrote: From: Mikel Astiz This patchset exte

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2012-11-27 Thread Luiz Augusto von Dentz
Hi Mikel, On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Mikel Astiz wrote: > Hi Luiz, > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Luiz Augusto von Dentz > wrote: >> Hi Mikel, >> >> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Mikel Astiz >> wrote: >>> From: Mikel Astiz >>> >>> This patchset extends the previous patch (resen

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2012-11-26 Thread Mikel Astiz
Hi Luiz, On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Luiz Augusto von Dentz wrote: > Hi Mikel, > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Mikel Astiz > wrote: >> From: Mikel Astiz >> >> This patchset extends the previous patch (resent unmodified here) with the >> policy change suggested by Tanu. >> >> It seem

Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2012-11-26 Thread Luiz Augusto von Dentz
Hi Mikel, On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Mikel Astiz wrote: > From: Mikel Astiz > > This patchset extends the previous patch (resent unmodified here) with the > policy change suggested by Tanu. > > It seems no conclusion was reached about the names etc. but I believe this is > the best alter

[pulseaudio-discuss] [PATCH v1 0/3] bluetooth: Headset port availability

2012-11-26 Thread Mikel Astiz
From: Mikel Astiz This patchset extends the previous patch (resent unmodified here) with the policy change suggested by Tanu. It seems no conclusion was reached about the names etc. but I believe this is the best alternative without the form factor and in any case the strings can easily be ch