Re: [pydotorg-www] rejecting-troll Lemburg calls 20 new ed in 2017 a "success"

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Fox wrote: > I'm not "spamming admins", I am leaving a warning posted in here to inform > any potential new editor what kind of cotton plantation he made the mistake > to subscribe to. And potential new editors don't read this list. So you're wasting your time and

Re: [pydotorg-www] rejecting-troll Lemburg calls 20 new ed in 2017 a "success"

I'm not "spamming admins", I am leaving a warning posted in here to inform any potential new editor what kind of cotton plantation he made the mistake to subscribe to. ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailm

Re: [pydotorg-www] rejecting-troll Lemburg calls 20 new ed in 2017 a "success"

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Fox wrote: > I don't know wtf you're talking about. I myself run several github wikis > where any regged githuber can write whatever he wants and I never saw a > single spam post. Not one. Your argument is as fake as all the Lemburg > baloney. Lack of spam often j

[pydotorg-www] rejecting-troll Lemburg calls 20 new ed in 2017 a "success"

I don't know wtf you're talking about. I myself run several github wikis where any regged githuber can write whatever he wants and I never saw a single spam post. Not one. Your argument is as fake as all the Lemburg baloney. Also what do you mean with "advertising" ? You mean, you want to kee

Re: [pydotorg-www] rejecting-troll Lemburg calls 20 new ed in 2017 a "success"

Can you please stop flooding the list? The spam policy isn't going to change. Yes it sucks that we have to go through this, but we don't have the manpower to handle the spam if we only had automated logins. There are a lot of project wikis that are like this, including postgres and *every single

[pydotorg-www] rejecting-troll Lemburg calls 20 new ed in 2017 a "success"

For a wiki of the size and reach of the pywiki to attract only ~ 20 new Editors in all of 2017 is an abysmal failure. The people responsible for this disaster are the wiki admins of course (Lemburg et. al.), who run the place as if they were bosses of it and they owned the wiki like a cotton

[pydotorg-www] *always*

On 04.11.2016 22:38, Chris Angelico wrote: Sounds like you want to copy-edit? That's *always* welcome - fix any typos you see, make sure the grammar's correct, test the code examples, verify links, that kind of thing. ChrisA *always* , huh ? can we take your word for it ? Most probably

[pydotorg-www] take his word for it?

On 06.10.2016 08:42, Chris Angelico wrote: Copyeditors are _always_ welcome. Thank you for offering to contribute! ChrisA Should we take his word for it? It may be true or not! ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org https://mai

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https://practical-scheme.net/wiliki/wiliki.cgi?python link reposted since the "ml" censored it ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www

[pydotorg-www] key point - lest I forget

On 27.06.2017 01:04, Mats Wichmann wrote: - ranting at and offending the maintainers usually has an effect... just consider your own reaction if the roles were reversed. what the disingenuous admins around here fail to acknowledge, of course, is the fact that due to the broken registration p

[pydotorg-www] let's be honest: the py wiki is a *** disgrace

poor quality content, next to no redactions worth speaking of, tons of dead links and an iron-fist rejection approach against all new users who must first lick some boot or do whatever. Ask the Arch-Linux wiki people whether they want to adopt this "most successful" (quoting rejection troll L

[pydotorg-www] total restricion policy since 2013 uninterrupted

On 27.06.2017 00:04, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: If so, what do plan to mitigate this dire situation ? We have no plans changing the policy. Of all strategies we've tried, this is by far the most successful one. afaik you stick that total restricion policy since 2013 uninterrupted or longer.

[pydotorg-www] the no bs wiki: practical-scheme.net/wiliki/wiliki.cgi?python

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[pydotorg-www] rejection-troll Lemburg: "legitimate good-faith requests are not refused."

rejection-troll Lemburg: "legitimate good-faith requests are not [being] refused." Truth or lie ? pythonista, you decide ! Holden: "I can't remember anyone who asked for edit permissions being refused." That one did not last 24 hrs, surprisingly. ;-) _

Re: [pydotorg-www] rejection by Mr Lemburg : editor of python wiki

On 27.06.2017 01:12, Steve Holden wrote: Just, wow. S Steve Holden see? I am such a polite guy. On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 12:06 AM, Fox > wrote: On 27.06.2017 00 :51, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 27.06.2017 00 :41, Fox wrote: >> I not

Re: [pydotorg-www] Mr Lemburg rejected request for wiki - editorship, just so not anybody claims it never happened (again).

On 27.06.2017 01:13, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Fox wrote: On 27.06.2017 00:07, Steve Holden wrote: I can't remember anyone who asked for edit permissions being refused. Certainly, responding critically to an email is sufficient proof of sentience to merit permissi

[pydotorg-www] ✨🍰✨ for everyone seeking a COOL wiki with no reg fuss like this one ✨🍰✨

Let's hope that there will be none of the "maintenance" over there, of the type we had to witness in the py-wiki.:-( ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www

Re: [pydotorg-www] Mr Lemburg rejected request for wiki - editorship, just so not anybody claims it never happened (again).

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Fox wrote: > On 27.06.2017 00:07, Steve Holden wrote: > >> I can't remember anyone who asked for edit permissions being refused. >> Certainly, responding critically to an email is sufficient proof of >> sentience to merit permission to edit. Thank you for taking en

Re: [pydotorg-www] rejection by Mr Lemburg : editor of python wiki

Just, wow. S Steve Holden On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 12:06 AM, Fox wrote: > On 27.06.2017 00:51, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > > On 27.06.2017 00:41, Fox wrote: > >> > I noticed how few edits were made in the last 90 day alone. > > How restrictive is your policy and does that negatively i

[pydotorg-www] rejection by Mr Lemburg : editor of python wiki

On 27.06.2017 00:51, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 27.06.2017 00:41, Fox wrote: >> I noticed how few edits were made in the last 90 day alone. How restrictive is your policy and does that negatively impact the quality (say the lamentable high number of dead links) of the wiki ? >>>

[pydotorg-www] hypocrisy

- the wiki was clearly worse quality when edits were not slightly restricted, because pages kept getting splattered with auto-added debris full of links some might call unsavory and nobody would argue were "off topic" - "dead links" has been a bit of a sensitive topic, as many times people report

Re: [pydotorg-www] request edit home page on python wiki - anti-robot

On 06/26/2017 04:51 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 27.06.2017 00:41, Fox wrote: >> I noticed how few edits were made in the last 90 day alone. How restrictive is your policy and does that negatively impact the quality (say the lamentable high number of dead links) of the wiki ? >

[pydotorg-www] Mr Lemburg rejected request for wiki - editorship, just so not anybody claims it never happened (again).

On 27.06.2017 00:07, Steve Holden wrote: I can't remember anyone who asked for edit permissions being refused. Certainly, responding critically to an email is sufficient proof of sentience to merit permission to edit. Thank you for taking enough interest to want to help. How good is your

Re: [pydotorg-www] request edit home page on python wiki - anti-robot

On 27.06.2017 00:41, Fox wrote: > >>> I noticed how few edits were made in the last 90 day alone. >>> >>> How restrictive is your policy and does that negatively impact the >>> quality (say the lamentable high number of dead links) of the wiki ? >>> >>> If so, what do plan to mitigate this dire si

Re: [pydotorg-www] request edit home page on python wiki - anti-robot

I noticed how few edits were made in the last 90 day alone. How restrictive is your policy and does that negatively impact the quality (say the lamentable high number of dead links) of the wiki ? If so, what do plan to mitigate this dire situation ? We have no plans changing the policy. Of a

Re: [pydotorg-www] request edit home page on python wiki - anti-robot

On 26.06.2017 23:15, Fox wrote: > On 11.06.2017 13:43, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> Our anti-robot protection is no secret. Before anyone can edit, he or >> she has to get explicit permission from an admin. :) > > to most bona fide users this is actually very much a :-( > > >> All you have to >

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Re: [pydotorg-www] Wiki Edit Access, too

intended edits: https://wiki.python.org/moin/CmdModule , homepage Please be more specific about your intended edits. Thanks, well the article is a disgrace, with 2 dead links. In what way do you intend to improve it ? why do you not autoremove all dead links ? Moin doesn't have such

Re: [pydotorg-www] Wiki Edit Access, too

On 27.06.2017 00:08, Fox wrote: > On 27.06.2017 00:06, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> On 26.06.2017 09:00, firefox wrote: >>> account name: FirFoxxx >>> >>> intended edits: https://wiki.python.org/moin/CmdModule , homepage >> >> Please be more specific about your intended edits. >> >> Thanks, >> > > >

Re: [pydotorg-www] Wiki Edit Access, too

why do you not autoremove all dead links ? ​Because it takes more than zero effort to doso, and effort is in short supply. Obviously, from reading the wiki. And "effort supply" will stay low as long as your restrictions are in place. Ought be quite obvious as well. __

Re: [pydotorg-www] Wiki Edit Access, too

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 11:08 PM, Fox wrote: > why do you not autoremove all dead links ? > ​Because it takes more than zero effort to doso, and effort is in short supply. S​ Steve Holden ___ pydotorg-www mailing list pydotorg-www@python.org https:/

Re: [pydotorg-www] Wiki Edit Access, too

On 27.06.2017 00:06, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: On 26.06.2017 09:00, firefox wrote: account name: FirFoxxx intended edits: https://wiki.python.org/moin/CmdModule , homepage Please be more specific about your intended edits. Thanks, well the article is a disgrace, with 2 dead links. why do

Re: [pydotorg-www] request edit home page on python wiki - anti-robot

AS a no-more-then-tangential reply I will point out in the defence of anyone who might be held responsible for not "plan[ning] to mitigate this dire situation," that the site content is maintained entirely by volunteers. It's possible that our current approach won't scale, but it's equally likely t

Re: [pydotorg-www] Wiki Edit Access, too

On 26.06.2017 09:00, firefox wrote: > account name: FirFoxxx > > intended edits: https://wiki.python.org/moin/CmdModule , homepage Please be more specific about your intended edits. Thanks, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg Python Software Foundation http://www.python.org/psf/ http://www.malemburg.com/ _

[pydotorg-www] ✨🍰✨ Unable to use my account to edit the wiki ✨🍰✨

On 25.05.2017 18:50, Paul Hildebrandt wrote: I would like to put my hat in the ring for the PSF board but am unable to make changes to the wiki. Can my account: paul_hildebra...@yahoo.com have its password reset? I've tried the password reset several times

Re: [pydotorg-www] request edit home page on python wiki - anti-robot

On 11.06.2017 13:43, Chris Angelico wrote: Our anti-robot protection is no secret. Before anyone can edit, he or she has to get explicit permission from an admin. :) to most bona fide users this is actually very much a :-( All you have to do is set pages to be read-only by default, and ha

[pydotorg-www] Wiki Edit Access, too

hello ChrisA, and Marc-Andre, FirFoxxx here. "Editing pages Since spamming and vandalism on this wiki has reached a level that is starting to require daily intervention, new users are no longer allowed to edit pages. If you want to edit a page and have just signed up, or you find that you

[pydotorg-www] Wiki Edit Access, too

hello ChrisA, FirFoxxx here. Editing pages Since spamming and vandalism on this wiki has reached a level that is starting to require daily intervention, new users are no longer allowed to edit pages. If you want to edit a page and have just signed up, or you find that you can no longer edit