Re: [pyfrmailinglist] Mass conservation torlerance, convergence speed and solution accuracy of AC method

2018-04-22 Thread Will
Dear Niki, I think the problem is the stiffness of mass conservation convergence in internal flow cases. Based on my trials, no matter bdf2, euler, tvd-rk3 or rk4, convergence is facing stiffness. I have attached the convergence history files in this email, which show convergence stiffness. Si

Re: [pyfrmailinglist] Mass conservation torlerance, convergence speed and solution accuracy of AC method

2018-04-22 Thread Lin Ruohshoei
Hi Niki, Excuse me for interrupting you. I'm afraid that I had doubts about the solution about 2D cylinder with Re=200. There were frequently errors like "NaNs detected at t = xxx" in PyFR run when I increased the Reynolds number by only modify the "Uin" (Re>140, and Re=140 is fine without errors

Re: [pyfrmailinglist] Mass conservation torlerance, convergence speed and solution accuracy of AC method

2018-04-20 Thread Niki Loppi
Hi Will, Thanks for your message. I have only run external flows with a range of Reynolds numbers, including 2D cylinder Re=200, turbulent jet Re=10,000, SD7003 Re=60,000. All these cases converged ok. In your previous email, you mentioned that you are using the forward-euler pseudo-time sc

Re: [pyfrmailinglist] Mass conservation torlerance, convergence speed and solution accuracy of AC method

2018-04-19 Thread Will
Dear Niki, If my understanding is right. It seems that for dual-time AC method in pyFR, there are difficulties on the convergence of the diffusion term. Based on my simulations, the pressure residual of the pseudo convergence file increases with the intensity of the flow diffusion. Very low pre

Re: [pyfrmailinglist] Mass conservation torlerance, convergence speed and solution accuracy of AC method

2018-02-22 Thread Will
Dear Niki, I have just finished a new test with the 2nd order 0.23million mesh (1.8 million in pyFR simulation).. I mapped the results from my previous pyfrs at 40.95s to the new case starting at t = 0.00s. I used bdf2 in physical time marching and Euler in pseudo time marching. Delta_t = 0.000

Re: [pyfrmailinglist] Mass conservation torlerance, convergence speed and solution accuracy of AC method

2018-02-12 Thread Niki Loppi
Dear Will, Thanks for your message. We have applied the ACM solver to any internal flows, so it is interesting see your progress. "What is the meaning of ma = 0.2? Do you mean the max velocity/ac-zeta? I think for ideal incompressible flow, ma = 0." I meant the Mach number of the real life

Re: [pyfrmailinglist] Mass conservation torlerance, convergence speed and solution accuracy of AC method

2018-01-17 Thread Will
Dear Niki, I am wondering what the exact meaning of those residuals in pseudtstats is, since if they are mass conservation residuals, I think that would be only one value instead of u, v ,w ? If Ma = 0.1 is not crucial, does it mean the values of those residuals are not important to the resul

Re: [pyfrmailinglist] Mass conservation torlerance, convergence speed and solution accuracy of AC method

2018-01-11 Thread Loppi, Niki
Dear Will, It’s true that very low level of divergence is more difficult to achieve with ACM than with methods that rely on a global Poisson solve because explicit smoothers are not as efficient for damping low frequency modes. However, it has other advantages e.g. it is (strong) scalable unlik