On 12 October 2011 21:33, Michael Merickel wrote:
> It's harder than it sounds to actually utilize that. Each step of traversal
> expects a new context object, and there isn't an obvious spot in the
> traversal process to say "ok we're done, now perform the query". Also AFAIK
> SQLAlchemy doesn't
On Oct 13, 6:10 am, Iain Duncan wrote:
> I challenge anyone who has dismissed it, to sit a client down in front of a
> traversal based CMS and watch them. Wow, you don't need to tell them
> anything, they get it right away because it looks and acts *just like their
> file system*. We, the *develop
There's this, from a couple of years ago, back when the nascent Pyramid was
going by the pseudonym "Marco". I encountered the PCA (as the ZCA should
have been called) and went hunting around for some other approaches to
providing a component architecture:
http://bel-epa.com/notes/Marco/notes.xm
On 10/12/11 2:18 PM, Thomas G. Willis wrote:
On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:53:09 PM UTC-4, Rob Miller wrote:
On 10/12/11 11:00 AM, Parnell Springmeyer wrote:
> One quick thing to add: I am building/maintaining a *big* production
> application that is 100% on top of Pyramid and
On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:53:09 PM UTC-4, Rob Miller wrote:
>
> On 10/12/11 11:00 AM, Parnell Springmeyer wrote:
> > One quick thing to add: I am building/maintaining a *big* production
> > application that is 100% on top of Pyramid and strictly uses Traversal
> > and SQLAlchemy.
>
> One thi
I'm curious whether any one has tried caching the traversal compound path?
For example, could all content items have a cached full path and have lookup
first check if there is an item with that full path before beginning
traversal? I would think those full paths would only need to be re-done when
c
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Rob Miller writes:
> One thing worth noting when using traversal w/ SQL is that you often
> pay a lookup penalty, since every part of the requested URL path
> usually results in an additional database query (e.g. "GET
> /foo/bar/baz" would be at leas
On 12.10.11 14:33, Michael Merickel wrote:
>On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Mariano Mara
><[1]mariano.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The "with recursive" sql idiom (such as the one you would find in
> pgsql and
> oracle) could be of help on this situation.
>
>It's harder t
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Mariano Mara wrote:
>
> The "with recursive" sql idiom (such as the one you would find in pgsql and
> oracle) could be of help on this situation.
It's harder than it sounds to actually utilize that. Each step of traversal
expects a new context object, and there is
On 12.10.11 11:53, Rob Miller wrote:
> On 10/12/11 11:00 AM, Parnell Springmeyer wrote:
> >One quick thing to add: I am building/maintaining a *big* production
> >application that is 100% on top of Pyramid and strictly uses Traversal
> >and SQLAlchemy.
>
> One thing worth noting when using travers
On 10/12/11 11:00 AM, Parnell Springmeyer wrote:
One quick thing to add: I am building/maintaining a *big* production
application that is 100% on top of Pyramid and strictly uses Traversal
and SQLAlchemy.
One thing worth noting when using traversal w/ SQL is that you often pay
a lookup penalty
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One quick thing to add: I am building/maintaining a *big* production
application that is 100% on top of Pyramid and strictly uses Traversal
and SQLAlchemy.
I should probably do a sample app that uses traversal and SQLAlchemy.
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I will chime in and say that I took the time to figure out Traversal
(took me about two weeks on my own with a little help on IRC) and I
unequivocally *LOVE IT*.
It's definitely a paradigm shift, a major one, from route matching and I
think it's intim
+100 on traversal.
we're using it with appengine and it has served us very well.
Thomas G. Willis
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Stefano Fontanelli wrote:
> Il 12/10/11 19.10, Iain Duncan ha scritto:
>
> (was going to be one post, split in two). I'm wondering about making this
>> into
On 10/12/11 10:10 AM, Iain Duncan wrote:
(was going to be one post, split in two). I'm wondering about making
this into a larger article that could be posted on the docs.
This is insightful, thanks for sharing your experiences here. If you're
serious about contributing to the docs, you might
Hi Iain,
I'd definitely like to see a detailed example or some sample code too.
It's difficult to choose from competing libraries and methodologies,
and once you make a choice the tendency is to stick with it. A lot of
my choices were shaped by the Pylons Book because it gave me a solid
footing in
Il 12/10/11 19.10, Iain Duncan ha scritto:
(was going to be one post, split in two). I'm wondering about making
this into a larger article that could be posted on the docs.
A lot of people don't get what the heck good traversal is. Part of the
issue is that it's a bit harder to make it really
Also, in my experience with other CMS and frameworks, users hate
administering menus and permissions. It's a constant source of confusion and
error. The fact that a traversal based cms automatically generates the menus
and site map, and that mapping permissions is simple on the site map is a
huge p
On 12.10.11 10:10, Iain Duncan wrote:
>
>Now aside from ranting, would it perhaps be useful for me to post
>sometime a more detailed example of how we accomplished traversal based
>permissions and editing using an SQLAlchemy back end? ( It will be a
>while, but I need to write lots
(was going to be one post, split in two). I'm wondering about making this
into a larger article that could be posted on the docs.
A lot of people don't get what the heck good traversal is. Part of the issue
is that it's a bit harder to make it really shine without using the zodb,
but it's certainl
Lately ( as a side effect of growth I expect ), I've noticed another wave of
emails on the lists bemoaning the inclusion of the ZCA, zcml, zodb and
traversal in pyramid. I suppose it's natural that people don't read
defense-of-architecture docs when first coming to an framework, but it's
also natur
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:
> My replies refer to Pyramid (a newer framework that is part of the
> Pylons Project) as opposed to Pylons (an older web framework, also part
> of the Pylons Project).
>
> On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 18:38 -0700, jpburbank wrote:
> > Long time de
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