Re: Utterly frustrated

2007-01-20 Thread Christoph Haas
Hi, Jamie... On Friday 19 January 2007 03:04, Jamie wrote: I've been struggling to learn how to use Pylons and it's getting to the point that I'm about to give up and just use Django. Ewww... the dark side? :) I need some advice on how to make this less painful. I've been a (professional)

Re: Utterly frustrated

2007-01-20 Thread Robert Sayre
On 1/19/07, Ben Bangert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: paster create --template=pylons PROJ paster controller NEWCONTROLLER paster serve development.ini There should be a pylons alias for these three. pylons create PROJ pylons controller NEWCONTROLLER pylons serve development.ini So people

Utterly frustrated

2007-01-19 Thread Jamie
I've been struggling to learn how to use Pylons and it's getting to the point that I'm about to give up and just use Django. I need some advice on how to make this less painful. I've been a (professional) web developer for over a decade now and can't remember ever being this frustrated with

Re: Utterly frustrated

2007-01-19 Thread Ben Bangert
On Jan 18, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Jamie wrote: I'm at the point now that I'm comfortable with writing productive apps in Python and am looking for a good MVC framework. I started with Django and found it reatively easy to pickup. However, one of the reasons it's easy is because all the components

Re: Utterly frustrated

2007-01-19 Thread Kendall Clark
On Jan 19, 2007, at 6:06 PM, Ben Bangert wrote: I would personally suggest Mako (Myghty's successor and much cleaner) if you want non-XML based templates, and Genshi if you want XML-ish templates. Again, use as little as possible to get started, and read the appropriate docs for

Re: Utterly frustrated

2007-01-19 Thread Yves-Eric
Jamie wrote: I've been struggling to learn how to use Pylons and it's getting to the point that I'm about to give up and just use Django. I need some advice on how to make this less painful. [...] But having to learn Myghty/Cheetah (still haven't decided), SQLAlchemy, Paste, and Routes all