Re: [PyMOL] RMS over a MD trajectory.

2015-05-11 Thread Albert Solernou
Oh, I see...
It looks like I'll need to end up writing a short script that does the 
loop along the trajectory together with a correct RMS calculation.

Thanks for the tip, Carsten.

Cheers,
Albert


On 05/08/2015 04:11 PM, Schubert, Carsten [JRDUS] wrote:
 Hi Al,

 based on my experience running align or super with cycles=0 has the 
 tendency to produce inferior alignment results. So depending on how similar 
 the conformation of your structures are you may end up with skewed 
 statistics. What I've done in the past and for a paper I'm working on now is 
 to run the alignment with default parameters to get the best superposition 
 and then calculate the statistics by hand from the superposed structures. Not 
 sure if cmd.rms() would do this for all residues w/o outlier rejection, so I 
 ended up writing code for myself. The colorbyrmsd.py 
 (http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/ColorByRMSD) script gives a nice illustration 
 on how to approach this this.

 Carsten

 -Original Message-
 From: Albert Solernou [mailto:a.soler...@leeds.ac.uk]
 Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 10:04 AM
 To: Thomas Holder
 Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [PyMOL] RMS over a MD trajectory.

 Thanks Thomas,
 I was already printing k[i][3] (RMSD before refinement) instead of k[i][0] 
 (RMSD after refinement) but your cycles=0 looks cleaner.

 Cheers,
 Albert

 On 05/06/2015 05:14 PM, Thomas Holder wrote:
 Hi Albert,

 Please pay attention to the difference between all-atom RMSD and RMSD after 
 outlier rejection.
 http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Align#RMSD

 If your trj and pdb1 have identical topology and matching atom 
 identifiers, then you can also use cmd.rms().
 http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Rms

 Cheers,
 Thomas

 On 06 May 2015, at 11:56, Albert Solernou a.soler...@leeds.ac.uk wrote:

 Terribly useful Carsten!

 I could easily do a loop and get the RMS along the trajectory:
k = []
for i in range(1,101): k.append(cmd.align(trj,pdb1,mobile_state=i))
for i in range(100): print k[i][0]

 Cheers,
 Albert


 On 05/06/2015 04:20 PM, Schubert, Carsten [JRDUS] wrote:
 Hi Al,

 you would need to go through the Python API:

 python
 rms=cmd.align(mobCA,tarCA, quiet=0) print rms python end

 rms contains a tuple with various parameters related to the superposition. 
 The first value in the tuple i.e. rms[0] should be the RMS value.

 HTH

Carsten

 -Original Message-
 From: Albert Solernou [mailto:a.soler...@leeds.ac.uk]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 8:32 AM
 To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [PyMOL] RMS over a MD trajectory.

 Hi,
 I am trying to compute the RMS between a PDB file and a Gromacs 
 trajectory. I can see that align does things correctly when:
 align trj, pdb1, mobile_state=1
 i. e., when I align the first snapshot of the trajectory with the PDB 
 file. I also understand that PyMOL does compute the RMS along the 
 trajectory if I simply:
 align trj, pdb1
 as it is told in:
 http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Align
 However, I am unable to get the list of RMS values printed out. How could 
 I do that?

 Thanks,
 Albert

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[PyMOL] How to Highlight B-Values of Side Chains?

2015-05-11 Thread Angelo Rossi
Hello:

I am trying to see the effect of side-chain fluctuation on molecular
permeation through a transmembrane  protein channel.

The idea is create a pdb file with a column of B-values related to the RMSF
values of the MD trajectory.

What I tried was to set the B-values of all heavy atom main-chain atoms to
1.0.  Then all the B side-chain values were set  equal to the RMSF value
from the trajectory, using the correct formula relating RMSF fluctuation to
B-value.

But, the above method blows up in pymol when trying to use the  Action ---
Preset --- b factor putty option.  I think this is probably due to the
fact that all main-chain atoms are equal to 1, and the algorithm cannot
handle this.

Can someone please provide me with a way to clearly see the fluctuation of
sid-chain atoms in the present of the main-chain atoms?

Thanks so much.

Regards,

Angelo
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[PyMOL] how to connect to atoms?

2015-05-11 Thread leila karami
Dear pymol users

I have one pdb file containing two peptides. Based on experimental data,
I should connect two peptides to obtain one new peptide in pdb file. This
connection is as follows:

CD atom of GLU residue from peptide 1 and NZ atom of LYS residue from
peptide 2.

How to make this connection using pymol without any change in the format of
pdb file (after saving this file)? I want to use this new pdb file as an
input file in gromacs package.

Any help will highly appreciated.
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Re: [PyMOL] how to connect to atoms?

2015-05-11 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Leila,

This too is more a question for the Gromacs mailing list.
Gromacs does not read bond information (CONECT records) from a PDB file. It
only reads the ATOM/HETATM records and sets bonds based on the force field
building block definitions and the special bonds (such as the isopeptide
link) in the specbond.dat file.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 10:02 PM, leila karami karami.lei...@gmail.com
wrote:

 You are right. I will ask my question gromacs mailing list.

 But, please answer my first question.

 I create a covalent bond between these 2 atoms using hyperchem. After I
 saved new pdb file, the format of pdb file was changed. Which software or
 model builder is appropriate for this goal?

 Thanks in advance.



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 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Leila,

 Please ask this question on the gromacs mailing list. But first search
 the gromacs archives to see what's already there (which is most of what you
 ask).

 Cheers,

 Tsjerk

 On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:54 PM, leila karami karami.lei...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear Tsjerk

 Thanks for your quick answer.

 Yes, the peptides are already positioned correctly.

 Which option in pdb2gmx does make this bond between two residues from
 two different chains? I want to make covalent bond between two atoms (CD
 atom of GLU residue from peptide 1 and NZ atom of LYS residue from peptide
 2). What you mentioned is related to merging of two chains.

 I am beginner in this field.
 Please guide about that.




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Re: [PyMOL] How to Highlight B-Values of Side Chains?

2015-05-11 Thread Osvaldo Martin
Hi Angelo,

As far as I understand the putty representation takes the values from the
b-factor of the Ca atom. Probably you should store your fluctuation values
either on the Ca (leaving all the others atoms with 0.0 or any other value)
or just set the same b-factor for all the atoms of a given residue. Either
way you should get what you want.

I think the error you are getting is because all the Ca have the same
b-factor value is your error something like invalid putty settings
(division by zero)? If you want all the Ca having the same b-factor and
use the putty representation anyway you should do  the following:

set cartoon_putty_transform, 2


Cheers,
Osvaldo.




On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Angelo Rossi 
angelo.raymond.ro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello:

 I am trying to see the effect of side-chain fluctuation on molecular
 permeation through a transmembrane  protein channel.

 The idea is create a pdb file with a column of B-values related to the
 RMSF values of the MD trajectory.

 What I tried was to set the B-values of all heavy atom main-chain atoms to
 1.0.  Then all the B side-chain values were set  equal to the RMSF value
 from the trajectory, using the correct formula relating RMSF fluctuation to
 B-value.

 But, the above method blows up in pymol when trying to use the  Action
 --- Preset --- b factor putty option.  I think this is probably due to
 the fact that all main-chain atoms are equal to 1, and the algorithm cannot
 handle this.

 Can someone please provide me with a way to clearly see the fluctuation of
 sid-chain atoms in the present of the main-chain atoms?

 Thanks so much.

 Regards,

 Angelo


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