Re: [pypy-dev] Possible sprint in Genova before/after Europython

2011-04-13 Thread Jacob Hallén
Wednesday 13 April 2011 you wrote: In a message of Wed, 13 Apr 2011 12:20:26 +0200, Antonio Cuni writes: Also, would you prefer to do it before or after europython? I am coming, and both times are fine for me. I am going to be spending the week after Europython in Italy somewhere anyway,

[pypy-dev] Thoughts on multithreading in PyPy

2011-04-09 Thread Jacob Hallén
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Re: [pypy-dev] Thoughts on multithreading in PyPy

2011-04-09 Thread Jacob Hallén
Saturday 09 April 2011 you wrote: Hi Jacob, On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Jacob Hallén ja...@openend.se wrote: So, in a second step, we provide for special data types that can be shared between threads. These would typically be allocated in non-movable memory, to avoid the complexity

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy in the benchmarks game - yes or no?

2011-04-08 Thread Jacob Hallén
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Re: [pypy-dev] ideas for Google Summer of code

2011-03-17 Thread Jacob Hallén
a GSoC project increases dramatically. Jacob Hallén ___ pypy-dev@codespeak.net http://codespeak.net/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev

Re: [pypy-dev] implementing the additional repo migrations

2011-02-26 Thread Jacob Hallén
Saturday 26 February 2011 you wrote: In a message of Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:36:16 +0100, Ronny Pfannschmidt writes: hi, this night i started taking a look at the extra repos that need to be migrated. many of them contain reconstructible, but large pdf files, that i'd like to kill off for

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy jit

2011-02-02 Thread Jacob Hallén
): if a: calculate something else: caculate something else In the second case, there will be a guard inside the loop that has to be evaluated every time through. Jacob Hallén ___ pypy-dev@codespeak.net http://codespeak.net/mailman/listinfo/pypy

[pypy-dev] Branches in the mercurial repository

2011-01-20 Thread Jacob Hallén
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[pypy-dev] Mercurial workflow

2010-12-14 Thread Jacob Hallén
Hi folks, now that the switch to Mercurial has happened, people are discovering that their Subversion workflow habits don't quite work. This is because Mercurial has a distributed philosophy, inlike svn which has the concept of the holy central server where all operations take place. In

Re: [pypy-dev] Idea for speed.pypy.org

2010-12-09 Thread Jacob Hallén
Wednesday 08 December 2010 you wrote: On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Miquel Torres tob...@googlemail.com wrote: Hey, I was serious when I said I would improve on benchmarks info! Anyone want to help in creating that benchmark description list? Just reply to this mail so that everyone

Re: [pypy-dev] Idea for speed.pypy.org

2010-12-09 Thread Jacob Hallén
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[pypy-dev] Idea for speed.pypy.org

2010-12-03 Thread Jacob Hallén
Something that would be nice on the speed.pypy.org site would be that each benchmark links to a page that describes the benchmark - What the benchmark is designed to measure - Why PyPy performs better/worse than CPYthon (if known) - What might be done to further improve performance (if there are

Re: [pypy-dev] Question on the future of RPython

2010-09-27 Thread Jacob Hallén
to remove bits of generated assembler code that never shows up in the compilation of RPython code. These are very basic first principle concepts, and it is a mystery to me why people can't work them out for themselves. Jacob Hallén signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [pypy-dev] Question on the future of RPython

2010-09-02 Thread Jacob Hallén
and the only person who was interested in this has retired from the project. Jacob Hallén signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ pypy-dev@codespeak.net http://codespeak.net/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy in the news

2010-05-21 Thread Jacob Hallén
I was interviewed in Copmuter Sweden concerning PyPy this week. This is an IT business and gossip tabloid. I was not allowed to use the term Just-In-Time Compiler, so what we have actually done is quite cryptic. However, it is clear from the article that we can make Python ryn faster. The

Re: [pypy-dev] speed.pypy.org launched

2010-02-25 Thread Jacob Hallén
Thursday 25 February 2010 you wrote: Hi Carl, error bars are certainly doable and supported by the plot lib. The only problem is that my backend model doesn't include such a field, so at the moment the data (which is certainly included in the json files) is not being saved. I will need to

[pypy-dev] Interesting reading for people generating assembler code

2009-11-08 Thread Jacob Hallén
I think this presentation contains some interesting tidbits and insights that may be of use to people doing machine code generation - perhaps both in the JIT and in the translation end of things. http://www.linux- kongress.org/2009/slides/compiler_survey_felix_von_leitner.pdf Jacob

[pypy-dev] New performance monitoring functionality in Linux kernel 2.6.31

2009-08-27 Thread Jacob Hallén
The upcoming Linux kernel release has functionality for monitoring low level events like cache misses, page faults, instructions and cycles. It may be useful in future development and debugging of the PyPy JIT. The new kernel is expected to be released in about 2 weeks. All relevant links can

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 1.1 beta release

2009-04-20 Thread Jacob Hallén
söndagen den 19 april 2009 skrev Samuele Pedroni: - Through a large number of tweaks, performance has been improved by 10%-50% since the 1.0 release. The Python interpreter is now between 0.8-2x (and in some corner case 3-4x) of the speed of CPython. A large part of these

[pypy-dev] Processor simulators

2009-03-17 Thread Jacob Hallén
While catching up on todays events on the IRC channel, it struck me that we are getting to a point where using a simulator for the processor would be very useful. Once upon a time I did a lot of development of embedded systems, and using a simulator was a really nice way of timing and

Re: [pypy-dev] Parsing in PyPy (and runicode)

2009-02-27 Thread Jacob Hallén
parser for Python. You can find his articles on http://www.dalkescientific.com/writings/diary/archive/ Jacob Hallén ___ pypy-dev@codespeak.net http://codespeak.net/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev

[pypy-dev] Europython sprint

2009-01-27 Thread Jacob Hallén
Hi everyone, the Europython organisers would like us to settle on dates for a sprint around Europython as soon as possible. They are very eager to do well in the sprinting department, as sprints are something that hasn't taken off in the UK so far. It is something they very much want to

[pypy-dev] Development philosophy

2008-05-25 Thread Jacob Hallén
Hi everyone, I have been following several discussions that have been going on in the past couple of weeks concering the speed of certain parts of the code and the size of the the code base. While I think the sentiments about the different things are absolutely right, I think that the limited

Re: [pypy-dev] Europython 2008 - talks?

2008-05-21 Thread Jacob Hallén
go faster, you should attend. Speaker: Jacob Hallén Biography: Jacob has been involved with the PyPy project since its first sprint. He has done a lot of auxilliary work like coding library modules, writing funding proposals and doing project management tasks. This means that he has had to bend

Re: [pypy-dev] Europython 2008 - talks?

2008-05-20 Thread Jacob Hallén
On tisdagen den 20 maj 2008, Beatrice During wrote: Hi there Thursday 22nd of May is the submission deadline for EuroPython 2008 (http://www.europython.org/FrontPage, 7-12th of July). Question 1: Are any pypy people going to submit talks? I have submitted a high level talk about PyPy -

[pypy-dev] Micro benchmarks on i386 and ppc

2008-02-24 Thread Jacob Hallén
Using the outputs of Leonardo's test run on i386 and a run of the same revision on Tuatara (ppc), I have calculated the speed ratios between the two architectures. For each ratio, there are 4 numbers that can vary: - The speed of CPython for the test on ppc - The speed of CPython for the test on

Re: [pypy-dev] Sun's Open JDK Challenge http://openjdk.java.net/challenge/

2008-02-20 Thread Jacob Hallén
onsdagen den 20 februari 2008 skrev Carl Friedrich Bolz: Jacob Hallén wrote: onsdagen den 20 februari 2008 skrev Carl Friedrich Bolz: Samuele Pedroni wrote: Carl Friedrich Bolz wrote: I am not sure it is practical to put parts of PyPy under this agreement. Which parts would that be? All

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy on Tim Bray's blog

2007-11-11 Thread Jacob Hallén
Tim Bray has a very strong Ruby focus. Our presentation gave a broad outline of the capabilities of PyPy, including pluggable GCs and had a fairly strong focus on JIT aspects. Tim had a good understanding of the JIT aspects. Why they didn't make it to his blog - who knows. Jacob Den Sunday 11

[pypy-dev] More sprint reporting

2007-07-17 Thread Jacob Hallén
Here is what I know happened in other groups: Armin and Laura worked on rffi. After 2 days of trying different approaches and getting stumped each time, they made a breakthrough on Saturday, and managed to produce a fairly complete slution in a matter of a few hours. Making the solution more

[pypy-dev] Sprint report

2007-07-17 Thread Jacob Hallén
I think this got stuck in moderation, as I sent it with a from address that didn't match my mailinglist subscription. Justas, Arlo Belshee and I worked on Python 2.5 compliance. We started with the with statement and fairly quickly found that it seemed to work as intended, except for the fact

Re: [pypy-dev] llvm backend issue on AMD64

2006-11-30 Thread Jacob Hallén
On Thursday 30 November 2006 13:29, Alexandre Fayolle wrote: On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 12:42:48PM +0100, Eric van Riet Paap wrote: Hi Alexandre, Thank you for trying this out! Do the llvm tests pass? Unfortunately, no. See http://codespeak.net/~afayolle/summary.html for details. The

Re: [pypy-dev] Duesseldorf sprint report

2006-11-05 Thread Jacob Hallén
Congratulations to you all. You have been extremely productive and seem to have managed to have fun at the same time. Wish I could have been there. Jacob Hallén ___ pypy-dev@codespeak.net http://codespeak.net/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev

Re: [pypy-dev] Sprint reports 2003-2006

2006-08-23 Thread Jacob Hallén
Great work! I think we should try to reconstruct at least stub reports for the remaining sprints. Here are some notes on what happened at the ones I attended. This is in no way complete (and fairly Jacob focused, since I remember what I did, but have a hazy understanding of what others did):

[pypy-dev] Registering Pypy on Freshmeat

2006-07-26 Thread Jacob Hallén
It just struck me that maybe we should register the Pypy project on Freshmeat. It would increase the visibility of the project as well as increase the visibility of Python in the more general OpenSource world. What do people think? Jacob ___

Re: [pypy-dev] US-friendly timed pypy-sync # 3 2006-03-30, 5pm CET

2006-03-29 Thread Jacob Hallén
On onsdag 29 mars 2006 16:39, Anders Lehmann wrote: what: weekly pypy-sync meeting where: #pypy-sync on freenode when: 2006-03-30, 5pm Central European Time for 30 minutes who: all active PyPy developers topics: - activity reports - the status of uthreads. It is needed by the logic

Re: [pypy-dev] even more import analysis

2005-10-28 Thread Jacob Hallén
torsdagen den 27 oktober 2005 23.17 skrev Michael Hudson: So I've beaten at my importfun tool even more and now it can produce an html report about the import (lack of) structure of PyPy; for an example start here: http://starship.python.net/crew/mwh/importfunhtml/pypy.interpreter.argument

Re: [pypy-dev] Towards Milestone 1

2005-08-11 Thread Jacob Hallén
onsdagen den 10 augusti 2005 22.47 skrev Armin Rigo: * threading: implementing this requires a mixture of source-code-level changes and help from the translation process, depending on the approach taken. At the moment we have no threads at all. There are two threading models that are

Re: [pypy-dev] Re: [pypy-svn] r15405 - in pypy/dist/pypy: module/__builtin__/test module/__builtin__/test/impsubdir/compiled module/ _codecs/test module/posix/test translator/goal translator/llvm2/module

2005-07-30 Thread Jacob Hallén
lördagen den 30 juli 2005 13.47 skrev Eric van Riet Paap: Hi Holger, Is there some svn/vi setting I could use to prevent this eol problems? This is what Fredrik Juhlin wrote on the Strakt internal development list. Hi, Anyone that has ever had to add a file to a Subversion repository knows

[pypy-dev] Cancellation of Oxford sprint

2005-04-05 Thread Jacob Hallén
I was just notified that the price of 45 pounds per day we were quoted was per day, per person. This makes the cost of sprinting, if you add it all up, higher than in Washington DC. Since partners dropped out because of the high costs in DC, I'm afraid we have to cancel, unless someone comes up

Re: [pypy-dev] Hi!

2005-02-03 Thread Jacob Hallén
quite flexible for sprints beyond sprint 10. If you are willing to host a sprint in Heidelberg, we should make sure that we can get all the logistics to work and then ask the team if they want to do a sprint in Heidelberg. I'm the contact point for logistics. Best regards Jacob Hallén

[pypy-dev] Re: New style classes

2004-07-12 Thread Jacob Hallén
On måndag 12 juli 2004 14.10, Michael Hudson wrote: Richard Emslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi PyPy ers, I was wondering why we use old style classes everywhere in the pypy code base - esp since pypy only supports new style classes (!). I'm not sure. It wasn't my decision, you can be

[pypy-dev] Proposal for Pypy talk at Pycon accepted

2004-02-03 Thread Jacob Hallén
Acceptance letter included below. I'm happy for all input I can get on what to include in the paper. Jacob Regarding PyCon proposal #27 (Pypy - implementing Python in Python): We are pleased to inform you that your proposal has been accepted for inclusion in the conference program. We will

Re: [pypy-dev] Re: posting policies

2004-02-02 Thread Jacob Hallén
My basic idea is: if a mail that gets into the mailman system is - spam: discard it or maybe reject/bounce it which is nicer for false positives (but which is very seldom) - unsure: put it on hold and let a moderator/administrator decide - ham: pass it to the subscribers If you