Re: [pypy-dev] python 3

2011-08-17 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi Yury, On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Yury Selivanov yselivanov...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if everybody agrees on the 3rd option, then can we have at least the process of porting outlined and reviewed by core devs?  No need for a super-detailed PEP, though.  A simple guideline would help

Re: [pypy-dev] python 3

2011-08-17 Thread exarkun
On 02:54 am, yselivanov...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but that is kind of a weak argument, since the situation with python 3 changes quickly. More and more libraries are being ported each month. Supporting python 2 obviously just harms the python ecosystem, as nobody interested in having two

Re: [pypy-dev] python 3

2011-08-17 Thread Brian Bouterse
I'm assuming it was a joke. A huge amount of people today and likely over the next few years will continue to rely on python 2.x where x (6,7). Let's not downplay the importance of PyPy supporting those communities. I agree with you Jean-Paul, Python 2 support in PyPy harms nothing. Brian On

Re: [pypy-dev] 1.6 status report

2011-08-17 Thread Gabriel Lavoie
Hum... It seems it's the end of my FreeBSD buildslave. :( I don't know when it time the memory requirement jumped to over 4GB (Armin told me it was now around 4.5GB for 64bits). I've been able to build a JIT enabled pypy binary using Python and GCC 4.6 but it took over 10 hours. I'm unable to do

Re: [pypy-dev] python 3

2011-08-17 Thread Yury Selivanov
+1 to the question. Why can't it be that way? On 2011-08-17, at 2:30 PM, Miquel Torres wrote: @Armin This would remain as a branch for the foreseeable future though, because we still need a Python 2 interpreter, if only to run our own translation toolchain on (and not suffer the 2.5x

Re: [pypy-dev] python 3

2011-08-17 Thread Eli Stevens (Gmail)
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Yury Selivanov yselivanov...@gmail.com wrote: +1 to the question.  Why can't it be that way? If by that way you mean leave python 2.x behind post 1.6 I'd like to note that IMO pypy has been under-acknowledged by the wider python community for a very long time.