This from the Jython mailing list. Are we sending somebody? It's the
first I heard about it, at any rate.
Laura
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In a message of Tue, 24 Nov 2015 15:35:26 -0500, Luis José Novoa writes:
>Hi Maciej,
>
>Thanks for your reply. The problem is that Im using gurobipy (for the
>interaction with the mathematical programming solver Gurobi) to solve a
>master problem and then using the output to solve the subproblems.
>> Lastly what is the right way to get the platform as pypy not cpython?
>> --
>> Robin Becker
Maciej already answered the other stuff. I had pypy working with
reportlab a long time ago just by not using the C extensions at all.
Detecting pypy is a bit harder.
https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pe
In a message of Tue, 13 Oct 2015 12:56:17 +0200, Laura Creighton writes:
>Any chance of adding Decimal to the list of things that are also
>acceptable for things annotated float?
>
>Laura
Grrr. Meant to send that to python-dev.
Sorry for the n
Any chance of adding Decimal to the list of things that are also
acceptable for things annotated float?
Laura
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In a message of Sun, 11 Oct 2015 10:04:02 +0200, Armin Rigo writes:
>Hi Jeff,
>
>I will have a look, but first let me mention that lxml-cffi is much
>better supported (and faster) on pypy than lxml. It is unmaintained
>though, so I guess it is getting out of date with lxml developments.
>
>
>A bie
If your code is new enough that it is written like this:
with open('output.txt', 'w') as f:
f.write('Stuff')
you don't have to worry, you will be fine. The with statement will
handle the closing for you.
If you don't use many files, well things will still work. It's sloppy,
but as long as
In a message of Sun, 20 Sep 2015 18:37:05 +0200, Armin Rigo writes:
>Hi Maciej,
>
>On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote:
>> I don't think this is true Laura, it shows up a lot in google searches
>
>I don't think you can argue against Laura's "most people I meet simply
>don't k
In a message of Sun, 20 Sep 2015 09:27:03 +0200, Armin Rigo writes:
>Nowadays you can, more and more often, go to the other project's
>website or PyPI page and see a mention about the PyPy compatibility
>status there. But it doesn't help much when gathering a list of all
>GUI toolkits available (s
In a message of Tue, 08 Sep 2015 12:36:49 +0200, Laura Creighton writes:
>This showed up on python-list. Should we try to get them to
>make PyPy a supported Python?
>
>Laura
Ha! PyPy is _already_ a supported system. And Filip wants to know
if there is anything else he can do to
This showed up on python-list. Should we try to get them to
make PyPy a supported Python?
Laura
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HI folks,
We have recently launched Python suppor
Somebody mailed webmaster wanting to know how Python documentation
faired w.r.t. the WCAG 2.0 Standard. https://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag20
What he really wants to know is how hard is it for blind people to
read the docs, and whether significant whitespace is a problem for
blind python developers.
This showed up on python-list.
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2015-August/695441.html
(if you want to read his attatchments, but, grrr you need libreoffice
to read them).
Cursory googling for CPLEX indicates it's written in C++.
Do we have any joy for this man?
Laura
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I am reading 18.8.1.1 and 18.8.1.2 in
https://docs.python.org/3/library/signal.html which clearly is written
from the CPython point of view.
A Python signal handler does not get executed inside the low-level
(C) signal handler. Instead, the low-level signal handler sets a flag
which tells the
In a message of Mon, 29 Jun 2015 23:53:21 +0200, Ozan Çağlayan writes:
>Well I tried again but cant reproduce it. BTW cut down the whole code to 4
>seconds with PyPy vs 28 seconds on CPython. The original C++ code might be
>slower than this, i'll check it.
>
>Thanks for fast replies, contributions,
In a message of Mon, 29 Jun 2015 21:40:38 +0200, Ozan Çağlayan writes:
>Hi,
>
>Yes I thought of the evident question and I think I can avoid keeping
>everything in memory by doing two passes of the file.
>
>Regarding __slots__, it seemed to help using CPython but pypy + slots
>crashed/trashed in a
This showed up in python-list, of all places, apparantly posted to
comp.lang.python
In case somebody wants to go to Portugal in September.
Note: I am still a little hazy on what Exascale means, and therefore
if we do it. :)
Laura
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I think some of our poor performance is because they never let the
jit warm up, but should we grab some of their benchmarks and
see if we can do better?
Laura
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I think that we had better look at wheels. I only thought
it was a better egg, which since I never thought eggs were a good
idea, I didn't worry about. But looks like I was wrong. I only
started to look at them yesterday, so I am likely full of
nonsense but looks like we could make a wheel that
Okay, I've started the asking process. It may collide with somebody
else's desire to have a way to securely handle automatic patch validation
for patches sent to CPython, which apparantly is on the list of
very hard things to do securely.
Laura
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Has this problem been resoved?
People are getting buildslaves on python.org for other things, so I
suspect we could have one if we just asked.
Laura (who doesn't want to ask if the problem has been already
solved.)
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In a message of Mon, 20 Apr 2015 12:28:19 +0200, Armin Rigo writes:
>Ok. Then yes, I think there should be little intrinsic reason for it
>to be slower (apart from some bytes/unicodes changes, which should not
>be too important in this case), and it would be a good excuse to focus
>on the performa
In a message of Mon, 20 Apr 2015 12:04:10 +0200, Armin Rigo writes:
>Hi Laura,
>
>On 20 April 2015 at 11:53, Laura Creighton wrote:
>> I worry that this will be slow.
>
>Slow at which level? The final speed of some translated PyPy should
>not be influenced, but mayb
In a message of Mon, 20 Apr 2015 10:15:52 +0200, Armin Rigo writes:
>I think I still prefer the "upgrade everything at once and forget
>about Python 2" approach.
I worry that this will be slow.
Laura
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In a message of Sun, 12 Apr 2015 17:39:17 +0200, Armin Rigo writes:
>Hi Laura,
>
>On 12 April 2015 at 14:46, Laura Creighton wrote:
>> I thought there was a way to show the code that was actually run to get
>> the results. Maybe I am confusing things with the pshootout
I thought there was a way to show the code that was actually run to get
the results. Maybe I am confusing things with the pshootout site. Have
I just forgotten how to do this?
I wanted to show an astronomer what sort of code we run blazingly fast vs
what sort we are less speedy at, so he can dec
The PyPy core developers are at a sprint in Leysin right now,
and they happen to be out for dinner right now.
So you, alas, are likely to need to wait.
Sorry for impatience
Laura
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me that and you an empty string, null mail.
very, very sorry, this will not happen again. I was careless.
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Can we talk the CPython developers into raising RunTimeError for
concurrent modifications?
Laura
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Two friends of mine is using this to support mobile game development.
After 2 weeks of using it, they have hit the 100 USD a month milestone
(so the TB proboards forum is about to be ad-free).
Read about the service here.
http://www.patreon.com/faq
I thought it might be something we are interest
Not important but I just received this in the mail. Those of you
who read python-announce will have got it as well.
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In a message of Mon, 25 Aug 2014 03:20:55 -0400, Mike Kaplinskiy writes:
>Hey folks,
>
>One of the projects I'm working on in CPython is becoming a little CPU
>bound and I was hoping to use pypy. One problem though - one of the pieces
>uses the regex library (which claims to be CPython's re-next).
I am getting a ton of spam as 'contra...@pypy.org'. Somewhere that is a
mail alias for me. I'd like to remove that alias, or have it removed if
it isn't something I can do. This brings up the larger question as to
whether that whole address is needed at all, or if it should just bounce.
Laura
_
https://stripe.com/blog
I wrote them, and yes non-USA citizens/green card holders are eligible.
So if somebody wants to get paid to live in San Francisco for 3 months and
hack on PyPy, send in an application
Laura
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Ok -- the lesson I took from this is 'ref counting hurts performance'. Why
was that the wrong inference to make?
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In a message of Fri, 28 Mar 2014 09:51:42 +0100, Armin Rigo writes:
>Hi Laura,
Ah, thank you. I actually thought we had found the odd example where
a better gc beat CPython performance even when the jit was off. I am
completely wrong about this? Or is it just that it is so rare it doesn't
ma
Your C-extensions come all bundled up with a whole lot of gorp which
is designed to make them play nicely in a ref-counting environment.
Ref counting is a very slow way to do GC. Sometimes -- really,
really, really hideously slow. You are sometimes _way_
better off writing python code instead --
About 25 years ago (dear god that makes me feel old) when CVS was the
new and happening thing in version control systems, we were in the
really bad problem area at Human Computing Resources of porting unix
to more than 1000, kid you not, of different M68010, M68020, NS16032,
NS32032, Zilog-I-forget
>Sounds great to me. Except that Mike Pell (LuaJit's author) hasn't
>been cc'd on this note. And so what I would like to know before
Ooops, it's Mike Pall. No disrespect intended (and indeed I spelt the name
correctly the second time it was used in my reply). That was a typo.
I apologise.
In a message of Tue, 15 May 2012 16:23:14 +0200, Armin Rigo writes:
tons of things that I agree with more or less wholesale, though I think
that there is a slightly larger market for Cython in the immediate
future ...
Then comes this:
>The simplest FFI we know of for a high-level language is Lu
In a message of Sun, 06 May 2012 21:29:12 +0200, Armin Rigo writes:
>The reason for that: getting details "right" might be similar to the
>sys module's documentation, which has grown a number of "CPython
>implementation detail" boxes --- which are rather meaningless for
>PyPy, in the sense that the
Listening to the whispers of your own creativity is always hard and
fraught with error, but I am getting the strong sense that what we are
up against is the idea that _processes_ are _things_ that are made up
of _lines of code_ which _run_ on a _core_.
Well, a sheep is a _thing_ in a very real se
In a message of Wed, 02 May 2012 09:22:03 +0200, Armin Rigo writes:
>Hi Laura,
>
>A note on my two previous messages: in the first one I argued about
>@breakable, while the second one I suggested to use threads and "with
>atomic". The relationship between the two is: in the first model you
>would
In a message of Tue, 01 May 2012 11:27:56 +0200, Armin Rigo writes:
>* First question: 'transaction'. The name is kind of bogus, because
>it implies that it must be based on transactional memory. Such a name
>doesn't make sense if, say, you are running the single-core emulator
>version. What the
In a message of Sun, 01 Apr 2012 11:23:40 +0200, Armin Rigo writes:
>I'm also thinking about writing a short paper collecting things I said
>and think on various blog posts. A kind of "position paper". What do
>others think of this idea?
Good idea. Is this a 'scientific paper for a conference'
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DEADLINE Thursday January 12
OSCON (O'Reilly Open Source Convention), the premier Open Source
gathering, will be held in Portland, OR July 16-20. We're looking for
people to deliver tutorials and shorter presentations.
http://ww
I worked on the Tunis OS at the University of Toronto, which was an OS
written in Concurrent Euclid. I think -- especially if Software Transactional
Memory works out, there will be interest in writing an OS, not in RPython,
but in Python. So then, well, maybe you will want a JIT ...
I think we
ides of the talk that Armin gave this
March at Stanford. http://www.stanford.edu/class/ee380/Abstracts/110302.html
The whole thing was videotaped, I think you can find it here:
http://www.stanford.edu/class/ee380/winter-schedule-20102011.html
Good luck,
Laura Creighton
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If so , you have this bug.
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and you need a newer gcc. (Or maybe an older one would work, too, but this
one doesn't).
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In a message of Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:42:02 +0200, Armin Rigo writes:
>Hi,
>
>On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 19:57, Laura Creighton wrote:
>> .. _`people`: https://bitbucket.org/pypy/extradoc/src/tip/sprintinfo/go
>th=
>enburg-2011/people.txt
>
>This is the file containing the p
eful dates
--
GothPyCon_ - Saturday Oct 29.
.. _GothPyCon: http://www.meetup.com/GothPy/events/32864862/
FSCONS_ Friday Nov 11 - Sunday Nov 12.
.. _FSCONS: http://fscons.org/
Location
The sprint will be held in the apartment of Laura Creighton and Jacob Hallén
which is at Götabergsg
First draft in extradoc. Please add the more details of the topics we
want to discuss, and decide whether you want to do the sprinting at
my house or at OE. I am fine with either. I don't think there will
be any actual construction happening in the house at this time. If I
am wrong, I will let
In a message of Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:09:45 +0200, Bea During writes:
>Hi there
>
>holger krekel skrev 2011-10-13 06:44:
>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 22:04 +0200, Armin Rigo wrote:
>>> Hi Maciej,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:28, Maciej Fijalkowski w
>rote:
It's not like we even discussed wh
In a message of Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:04:08 +0200, Armin Rigo writes:
>Hi Maciej,
>
>On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:28, Maciej Fijalkowski wrot
>e:
>> It's not like we even discussed what the general pypy pot will be used
>> for. I think sprint funding is fine, but what are other people
>> opinions?
>
>
Just to clarify: I am fine with all of you eating at my house and
cooking together if that is what is required. It is just the 'sleeping
at my place' part which is temporarily broken, because I don't have any
bathing facilities to offer you (showers and bathtub). The laundry and
toilets are fine
He says, currently, PyPy's threading does not scale properly. More below.
Maybe we
want to use his benchmark?
Laura
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In a message of Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:47:33 +0200, Maciej Fijalkowski writes:
>Hello.
>
>I would like to raise the topic of modifying standard library for
>performance reasons in *some* places. I know the policy so far is to
>avoid modifications as much as possible and in general I agree. For
>exampl
Fscons has asked for somebody to speak on PyPy. So far I have
said 'yes' and nothing specific about the content.
Laura
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John Pinner wants to know if any of us are coming and will there be a PyPy
sprint.
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In a message of Sun, 04 Sep 2011 19:40:01 +0200, Maciej Fijalkowski writes:
>It's a surprisingly good time for me. I stay in EU until 14th of Nov.
Cool! Been too long since I saw you.
Laura
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In a message of Sat, 03 Sep 2011 13:53:26 +0200, Armin Rigo writes:
>Hi Laura,
>
>On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Laura Creighton wrote:
>> It's not that far away for some of us, Finland is beautiful, and they
>> still have space for talks and sprints.
>
>I appr
http://fi.pycon.org/2011/#schedule
It's not that far away for some of us, Finland is beautiful, and they
still have space for talks and sprints.
Laura
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This is the message that got bounced. Since I now am admin
this shouldn't happen any more.
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so that it doesn't automatically bounce mail from non-subscribers
but instead holds them? Now that we are on python.org we won't
drown in spam as python.org is most excellent at catching it before
it reaches the mailing list. If you make me a list admin, I promise
to do all the work in approving
I'd like it if the comments on pull requests came with the name
of the person making the request, in this case yasirs. Is this
something we can do on our end, (I don't think so) or something
we need to ask Bitbucket to change?
Laura
In a message of Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:32:52 -, Bitbucket writ
Armin wrote:
>So, all this to say: 8 years later, I implemented that on CPython:
>https://bitbucket.org/arigo/cpython-withatomic/overview (on the 2.7
>branch). It is sadly a fork of CPython instead of a C extension
>module because it needs to access and change a few things in ceval.c.
>The total
My comments follow.
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Steve Holden wrote:
> Guido forward this to me, but I think it should be developers getting
> involved.
> Anyway, does anyone on this list hav
In a message of Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:39:35 EDT, David Edelsohn writes:
>It appears that the tests for 'linux2' in Python and PyPy libraries
>are broken by the appearance of Linux 3.0 kernels.
>
>- David
Can you make a bug report about this? Things sent to the mailing list
tend to get forgotten.
L
Do we want to run our speed comparisons against 2.7 not 2.6 for the
release?
Laura
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This showed up on the infrastructure mailing list.
I'd like a really nice windows machine always available for benchmarking and
another one to test on.
What would other people like? Make a list and we can ask Charles McLaughlin if
the offer is still
open. As far as I know the OSU/OSL hosting
In a message of Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:30:21 +0900, "Seung Soo, Ha" writes:
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>Has anyone considered?
>
>http://www.fo
What do we want to happen when somebody -- say in a C extension -- takes the id
of an object
that is scheduled to be removed when the gc next runs?
Laura
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Yippee!!
Everybody please thank Jesse Noller when you see him. :-)
Laura
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I've posted a more expansive entry on my blog:
http://jessenoller.com/2011/06/2
>The idea was also to possibly attract new developers ... for example, if
>there would be "10 days in money" for adapting py2exe, I am sure many wou
>ld
>jump to solve this puzzle.
This is sort of a bad example. Because py2exe embeds CPython, and
we wouldn't want to do that. So what we would pr
In a message of Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:40:29 +0200, "Massa, Harald Armin" writes:
Hi Harald! Note that we are pypy-dev@python.org these days.
>has anyone already setup a bounties page for pypy-enabling modules?
No. We just had the idea of doing it very recently.
>Or had that idea and trashed it,
In a message of Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:49:09 -0300, Andres Aguirre writes:
>Hi to everyone.
>There's a new activit, I hope that most of you will enjoy, it's called
>Butialo (http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4457)
>Butialo is a IDE based on PyPy that allows programming the Buti=E1 robo
We should give a talk. It's even _close_ to some of us. :-)
Laura
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Thank you for the patches, which are most appreciated. If you have
any more of them, can you send them to the bug tracker
https://bugs.pypy.org/ ? Things posted to the mailing list sometimes
get forgotten.
Thank you, and thank you for the patches,
Laura
Great to hear about PHP. I hope you don't mind a question. Were you
able to reuse the Python object model for your PHP interpreter, or
is the PHP object model too different?
Laura
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