Re: [pypy-dev] PYPY- Trace Limit

2022-03-07 Thread Matti Picus
On 7/3/22 22:19, Aksam Lwanga wrote: Am working  on a person project I would like to know how meta trace limit configured for pypy.any assistance needed is highly appreciated. On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, 3:43 PM Aksam Lwanga wrote: Hello , I would like to understand how to set pypy trace limit

Re: [pypy-dev] PYPY- Trace Limit

2022-03-07 Thread Aksam Lwanga
Am working on a person project I would like to know how meta trace limit configured for pypy.any assistance needed is highly appreciated. On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, 3:43 PM Aksam Lwanga wrote: > Hello , I would like to understand how to set pypy trace limit . Any link > available for use will highly

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 7.3.8 release

2022-02-20 Thread Matti Picus
On 20/2/22 16:40, Alex Gaynor wrote: FYI there seems to be an issue with the formatting of the blog post: Alex Thanks Alex, fixed now. Matti ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 7.3.8 release

2022-02-20 Thread Carl Friedrich Bolz-Tereick
On 20.02.22 06:36, Matti Picus wrote: I have released PyPy v7.3.8. Thanks to all who contributed and tested and for moving PyPy forward. Hi all, Matti and I have discussed that this is the last 3.7 release. We'll stop running 3.7 nightly and can merge directly from default to the py3.8 branch.

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy v7.3.8 rc1 now available

2022-01-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 27. 01. 22 0:03, Matti Picus wrote: This is a release of 4 versions of python: 2.7, 3.7, 3.8 (no longer beta) and 3.9 (beta quality). Release note: https://doc.pypy.org/en/latest/release-v7.3.8.html Downloads: https://downloads.python.org/pypy checksums: https://www.pypy.org/checksums.h

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy v7.3.8 rc1 now available

2022-01-26 Thread Matti Picus
Downloads: https://downloads.python.org/pypy On 27/1/22 01:03, Matti Picus wrote: This is a release of 4 versions of python: 2.7, 3.7, 3.8 (no longer beta) and 3.9 (beta quality). Release note: https://doc.pypy.org/en/latest/release-v7.3.8.html Downloads: https:// checksums: https://www.

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy v7.3.6rc1 is available for testing

2021-09-14 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
On Mon, 13 Sep 2021, Carl Friedrich Bolz-Tereick wrote: The speedup was achieved in relatively boring ways. In summary, nothing deep, lots of legwork. Hi Carl, Thank you very much for the summary, it was very interesting to read! Congratulations to the PyPy Team even (or even more so) if the

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy v7.3.6rc1 is available for testing

2021-09-14 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 2021-09-13 at 18:21 +0300, Matti Picus wrote: > The release candidates for pypy v7.3.6rc1 for python2.7, python3.7, and > python3.8 are up. This is our first release of 3.8. This release also > includes a backend for HPy0.0.2 (may be upgraded to 0.0.3 by the final > release). This releas

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy v7.3.6rc1 is available for testing

2021-09-13 Thread Carl Friedrich Bolz-Tereick
On 13.09.21 17:29, Yury V. Zaytsev wrote: On Mon, 13 Sep 2021, Matti Picus wrote: The release notice https://doc.pypy.org/en/latest/release-v7.3.6.html As always, edits are welcome. It would be very interesting to know, how the amazing translation speedup has been achieved (I hope not by remo

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy v7.3.6rc1 is available for testing

2021-09-13 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
On Mon, 13 Sep 2021, Matti Picus wrote: The release notice https://doc.pypy.org/en/latest/release-v7.3.6.html As always, edits are welcome. It would be very interesting to know, how the amazing translation speedup has been achieved (I hope not by removing the fractal rendering, right?), but

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy tests on aarch64 musl libc

2021-04-19 Thread Matti Picus
On 19/4/21 1:12 pm, Thomas Liske wrote: Hi, I'm trying to contribute the packaging of pypy to Alpine Linux. I got the bootstrapping for x86 x86_64 and s390x working. On aarch64 two of the pypy tests are failing[1]: - TestLogParser.test - TestMicroNumPy.test_reduce_logical_and [1] https://g

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy tests on aarch64 musl libc

2021-04-19 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 2021-04-19 at 19:12 +0200, Thomas Liske wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to contribute the packaging of pypy to Alpine Linux. I got > the bootstrapping for x86 x86_64 and s390x working. > On aarch64 two of the pypy tests are failing[1]: > > - TestLogParser.test > - TestMicroNumPy.test_reduce_

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 7.3.4rc1 tarballs are up

2021-03-19 Thread PIERRE AUGIER
Thank a lot Matti and all PyPy developers for the work done on this release, Two small remarks on the sentence in the release note: "There are also some significant performance improvements around maps (dictionaries), ints, strings, btyes and more. These were done as users reported reproducible

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy and pyproject.toml

2020-10-10 Thread wlavrijsen
Matti, Although implementation_version looks promising, it is defined as "sys.implementation.version" which is an alias to the python version. "implementation" is also not helpful. does pypy even have a sys.implementation? (My installation doesn't?) For now, I'm simply breaking the build envi

Re: [pypy-dev] Pypy on aarch64 (rhe7) has issues with bzip2-libs

2020-10-09 Thread Srinivasa Kempapura Padmanabha
Hi, I made everything work, I have extracted bzip and development packages of it to customized path and then set the LD path and also I have created symbolic link to libbz2.so.1 to 1.0.6 But, since we setup in customized path, we have to manual set the LD path which we are not supposed to do i

Re: [pypy-dev] Pypy on aarch64 (rhe7) has issues with bzip2-libs

2020-10-08 Thread Srinivasa Kempapura Padmanabha
Hi, Thank you so much for your response, I tried all methods including patchelf as well. But it din't help, hence initiated mail thread. However, I will also find if there is something else missing on my env. No, worries. Let me send you the complete details in sometime with snapshot but for

Re: [pypy-dev] Pypy on aarch64 (rhe7) has issues with bzip2-libs

2020-10-08 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi, On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 at 10:22, Srinivasa Kempapura Padmanabha wrote: > I think it's looking for /usr/lib64/libbz2.so.1.0.0 which I am not sure if > that's compatible It should be, if it differs only in the last digit. > I have created the symbolic link and yet idn't work Sorry, I can't help

Re: [pypy-dev] Pypy on aarch64 (rhe7) has issues with bzip2-libs

2020-10-08 Thread Srinivasa Kempapura Padmanabha
I think it's looking for /usr/lib64/libbz2.so.1.0.0 which I am not sure if that's compatible I have created the symbolic link and yet idn't work Srinivasa Kempapura Padmanabha | Staff Engineer Technology Operations Services Group Email & SFB & Teams: srike...@arm.com Mobile: +91 9980633788 Ba

Re: [pypy-dev] Pypy on aarch64 (rhe7) has issues with bzip2-libs

2020-10-08 Thread Armin Rigo
... ah, also the command given by matti has the arguments in the wrong order (I think). It should be sudo ln -s /usr/lib64/libbz2.so.1.0.6 /usr/lib64/libbz2.so.1.0 Armin ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/li

Re: [pypy-dev] Pypy on aarch64 (rhe7) has issues with bzip2-libs

2020-10-08 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi, On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 at 07:42, Srinivasa Kempapura Padmanabha wrote: > I am running on rhe7 aarch64, I tried but it din't work. You have to run `ldconfig` (without arguments, as root) for the system to pick up the new symlink. A bientôt, Armin ___ p

Re: [pypy-dev] Pypy on aarch64 (rhe7) has issues with bzip2-libs

2020-10-07 Thread Srinivasa Kempapura Padmanabha
Hi, I am running on rhe7 aarch64, I tried but it din't work. Regards, On 07/10/20, 10:16 PM, "Matti Picus" wrote: On 10/7/20 1:35 PM, Srinivasa Kempapura Padmanabha wrote: > > Hi, > > When I extract the pypy prebuild package as instructions provided in > the site. I

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy and pyproject.toml

2020-10-07 Thread Matti Picus
On 10/7/20 8:30 PM, wlavrij...@lbl.gov wrote: Does anyone know how to add a marker based on the PyPy version in a pyproject.toml file? Or, how else to enforce build dependencies for pip in the same way that can be done with t

Re: [pypy-dev] Pypy on aarch64 (rhe7) has issues with bzip2-libs

2020-10-07 Thread Matti Picus
On 10/7/20 1:35 PM, Srinivasa Kempapura Padmanabha wrote: Hi, When I extract the pypy prebuild package as instructions provided in the site. I see that the binary fails to run ./bin/pypy3: error while loading shared libraries: libbz2.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or

Re: [pypy-dev] Pypy on aarch64 (rhe7) has issues with bzip2-libs

2020-10-07 Thread Niklas B
What OS and version are you running on? Regards, Niklas > On 7 Oct 2020, at 12:35, Srinivasa Kempapura Padmanabha > wrote: > > Hi, > > When I extract the pypy prebuild package as instructions provided in the > site. I see that the binary fails to run > > ./bin/pypy3: error while loading s

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 3.6 and WinXP

2020-05-31 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi, On Fri, 29 May 2020 at 20:10, Joseph Jenne via pypy-dev wrote: > I don't have much experience with the windows side of pypy, especially > on XP, but I would suggest trying to compile for your system, as I do > not know of any reasons for incompatibility. That said, perhaps using a > somewhat

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 3.6 and WinXP

2020-05-29 Thread Joseph Jenne via pypy-dev
I don't have much experience with the windows side of pypy, especially on XP, but I would suggest trying to compile for your system, as I do not know of any reasons for incompatibility. That said, perhaps using a somewhat older version might be preferable, depending on the specifics of your use

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 3.6 and WinXP

2020-05-29 Thread Denis Cardon
Hi Joseph, Le 05/28/2020 à 10:56 PM, Joseph Jenne via pypy-dev a écrit : On 5/28/20 8:58 AM, Denis Cardon wrote: Hi everyone, sorry if this is not the best place to ask the question, feel free to forward me to a better place for this kind of question :-) I was wondering PyPy 3.6 is supposed t

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 3.6 and WinXP

2020-05-29 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi Denis, On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 18:05, Denis Cardon wrote: > WinXP is actually still very common in industrial setups and it would be > great if it would work with PyPy as CPython has drop WinXP support after > 3.4. I see the point. If some parts of the industry want a modern version of Python

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 3.6 and WinXP

2020-05-28 Thread Joseph Jenne via pypy-dev
On 5/28/20 8:58 AM, Denis Cardon wrote: Hi everyone, sorry if this is not the best place to ask the question, feel free to forward me to a better place for this kind of question :-) I was wondering PyPy 3.6 is supposed to run on WinXP SP3 32bit. Running the pypy3.exe says that it not a valid

Re: [pypy-dev] Pypy

2020-05-21 Thread Matti Picus
On 21/5/20 5:49 am, Valerij “Derad6709” Lebedev wrote: Hey sorry pls I can’t install builded nightly versions to my ubuntu... i tried to create symlink but pip (pypy3 -mpip install installing packages to the Python, not to pypy with symlink) could you help me, how can I install nigthly version

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 7.3.1 is out

2020-04-27 Thread c-yan
I am impressed with the very fast list comprehension in PyPy 7.3.1. Thanks to all the contributors. In the competitive programming world, list comprehension, recursive functions, and string concatenation were known as three slow problems of PyPy, but one of them has been broken. _

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 7.3.1 rc1 is available, please test it out

2020-04-03 Thread Matti Picus
On 3/4/20 10:45 am, Matti Picus wrote: I have uploaded rc1 of the upcoming pypy v7.3.1 to https://bitbucket.org/pypy/pypy/downloads/ The sha256 hashes are here https://www.pypy.org/download.html#checksums The release notice is here https://doc.pypy.org/en/latest/release-v7.3.1.html Pleas

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy specific code flags DONT_IMPLY_DEDENT and SOURCE_IS_UTF8

2019-12-16 Thread Rocky Bernstein
Thanks - got it. Many thanks for the clarification. I reread and missed the part where you mentioned that those two flags are conflicts in CPython as well. I am sorry for my confusion there. (I'll ask CPython folks what's up if there is need). On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 6:05 AM Armin Rigo wrote:

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy specific code flags DONT_IMPLY_DEDENT and SOURCE_IS_UTF8

2019-12-16 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi Rocky, On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 11:57, Rocky Bernstein wrote: > > I did a little test, and for this program: > > # from 3.7 test_asyncgen.py > def test_async_gen_iteration_01(self): > async def gen(): > await awaitable() > a = yield 123 > > the 3.6 ASYNC_GENERATOR flag is ad

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy specific code flags DONT_IMPLY_DEDENT and SOURCE_IS_UTF8

2019-12-16 Thread Rocky Bernstein
I did a little test, and for this program: # from 3.7 test_asyncgen.py def test_async_gen_iteration_01(self): async def gen(): await awaitable() a = yield 123 the 3.6 ASYNC_GENERATOR flag is added in the code object created for "gen()" as 3.6 does. So I infer that flag 0x200

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy specific code flags DONT_IMPLY_DEDENT and SOURCE_IS_UTF8

2019-12-16 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi, On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 11:24, Rocky Bernstein wrote: > I have a cross-version Python bytecode disassembler xdis > (https://pypi.org/project/xdis/) and I notice that flags 0x0100 and 0x0200 > (DONT_IMPLY_DEDENT and SOURCE_IS_UTF8 respectively) conflict in Pypy 3.6 with > Python 3.6's ITERA

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy as micropython Replacement

2019-03-19 Thread Mark Melvin
OK. Thanks for the quick reply, Armin. Mark On Tue., Mar. 19, 2019, 12:01 p.m. Armin Rigo, wrote: > Hi Mark, > > On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 12:46, Mark Melvin wrote: > > I was wondering if PyPy would be a good candidate to create an embedded > distribution of Python similar to micropython. > > No,

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy as micropython Replacement

2019-03-19 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi Mark, On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 12:46, Mark Melvin wrote: > I was wondering if PyPy would be a good candidate to create an embedded > distribution of Python similar to micropython. No, PyPy's minimal memory requirements are larger than CPython's. A bientôt, Armin. ___

Re: [pypy-dev] Pypy friendly to get pointer enclosed in python object ?

2019-03-17 Thread Stuart Axon via pypy-dev
Realised I should ask this on the CFFI list, apologies for the noise. On Saturday, March 16, 2019, 3:05:03 PM GMT, Stuart Axon wrote: PyCairo has a struct like `    typedef struct { |    PyObject_HEAD | | | cairo_t *ctx; | | |     PyObject *base; /* base object used to create co

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 7.0.0 release candidate

2019-02-07 Thread Armin Rigo
Re-hi, On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 at 00:33, Armin Rigo wrote: > getting "InvalidArgument: Invalid argument deadline" in a call to > hypothesis.settings() (rpython/conftest.py:14) and upgrading hypothesis > doesn't seem to help... My mistake, an old "hypothesis" kept being used. But the logic in rpython

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 7.0.0 release candidate

2019-02-07 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi Anto, On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 11:46, Antonio Cuni wrote: > I have uploaded all the packages for PyPy 7.0.0; the release is not yet > official and we still need to write the release announcement, but the > packages are already available here, for various platforms: It's unclear to me how you m

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy Winter Sprint

2018-12-29 Thread Carl Friedrich Bolz-Tereick
On 29/12/2018 00:20, andy l wrote: Carl Friedrich, Thanks for the warm words and quick response. I have booked a bed at Backpackers Dusseldorf from the 3rd to the 9th of February. Please could you add me to the attendee list? Andrew Lawrence Done! see you in Feb. CF __

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy Winter Sprint

2018-12-28 Thread andy l
Carl Friedrich, Thanks for the warm words and quick response. I have booked a bed at Backpackers Dusseldorf from the 3rd to the 9th of February. Please could you add me to the attendee list? Andrew Lawrence On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 8:03 PM Carl Friedrich Bolz-Tereick wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > Ye

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy Winter Sprint

2018-12-28 Thread Carl Friedrich Bolz-Tereick
Hi Andrew, Yes, the sprint is totally suitable for beginners! We usually give introductions and try to pair newcomers with more experienced developers. You'd be most welcome to join the sprint! Cheers, Carl Friedrich On December 28, 2018 12:51:03 PM GMT+01:00, andy l wrote: >Would the wint

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy, vmprof and mpmath

2018-11-20 Thread Kris Kuhlman
Thank you for the suggestion. Using the —no-native option, both the test script and my original numerical integration script run under vmprof on pypy. Kris On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 1:12 PM Ronan Lamy wrote: > Le 17/11/18 à 15:39, Kris Kuhlman a écrit : > > I am using pypy to run numerical integ

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy, vmprof and mpmath

2018-11-19 Thread Ronan Lamy
Le 17/11/18 à 15:39, Kris Kuhlman a écrit : I am using pypy to run numerical integration calculations with the arbitrary precision library mpmath (http://mpmath.org). I am using pypy2-v6.0.0-osx64 and version 1.0 of mpmath (from github). I install mpmath with pypy and use the native (python on

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 3 for Windows 64-bit systems - no download link available

2018-10-28 Thread Matti Picus
> On +2018-10-27 11:55:11 -0700, wlavrij...@lbl.gov wrote: as I'm struggling with Windows at the moment, I may have an answer ... I find that for CPython3, sys.maxsize is (2**31)-1 on 32-bits Python and (2**63)-1 for 64-bits Python builds. With sys.maxint being a Python2 thing, it may be differen

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 3 for Windows 64-bit systems - no download link available

2018-10-28 Thread Bengt Richter
On +2018-10-27 11:55:11 -0700, wlavrij...@lbl.gov wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 22 Oct 2018, Barry wrote: > > > On 21 Oct 2018, at 19:04, Armin Rigo wrote: > > > On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 at 16:47, Barry Scott wrote: > > > > How odd. sys.maxint on macOS and Fedora is (2**63)-1 not (2**31)-1. > > > That's b

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 3 for Windows 64-bit systems - no download link available

2018-10-27 Thread wlavrijsen
Hi, On Mon, 22 Oct 2018, Barry wrote: On 21 Oct 2018, at 19:04, Armin Rigo wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 at 16:47, Barry Scott wrote: How odd. sys.maxint on macOS and Fedora is (2**63)-1 not (2**31)-1. That's because MacOS and Fedora are not Windows. Do you why windows is unique in this respec

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 3 for Windows 64-bit systems - no download link available

2018-10-23 Thread Janzert
On 10/22/2018 17:13, Barry wrote: On 21 Oct 2018, at 19:04, Armin Rigo wrote: Hi, On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 at 16:47, Barry Scott wrote: On 19 Oct 2018, at 11:26, Armin Rigo wrote: PyPy is not available for 64-bit Windows. How odd. sys.maxint on macOS and Fedora is (2**63)-1 not (2**31)-1.

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 3 for Windows 64-bit systems - no download link available

2018-10-22 Thread Matti Picus
On 23/10/18 12:13 am, Barry wrote: On 21 Oct 2018, at 19:04, Armin Rigo wrote: Hi, On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 at 16:47, Barry Scott wrote: On 19 Oct 2018, at 11:26, Armin Rigo wrote: PyPy is not available for 64-bit Windows. How odd. sys.maxint on macOS and Fedora is (2**63)-1 not (2**31)-1.

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 3 for Windows 64-bit systems - no download link available

2018-10-22 Thread aidanlaksh...@gmail.com
Probably because 32-bit is still supported by Windows, whereas Fedora discontinued supporting 32 bit in 2016, and OSX stopped supporting 32 bit recently as well. Easier to have just one version of Windows rather than supporting two versions, and 32-bit is compatible with all Windows, whereas 64

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 3 for Windows 64-bit systems - no download link available

2018-10-22 Thread Barry
> On 21 Oct 2018, at 19:04, Armin Rigo wrote: > > Hi, > > On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 at 16:47, Barry Scott wrote: >>> On 19 Oct 2018, at 11:26, Armin Rigo wrote: >>> PyPy is not available for 64-bit Windows. >> >> How odd. sys.maxint on macOS and Fedora is (2**63)-1 not (2**31)-1. > > That's bec

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 3 for Windows 64-bit systems - no download link available

2018-10-21 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi, On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 at 16:47, Barry Scott wrote: > > On 19 Oct 2018, at 11:26, Armin Rigo wrote: > > PyPy is not available for 64-bit Windows. > > How odd. sys.maxint on macOS and Fedora is (2**63)-1 not (2**31)-1. That's because MacOS and Fedora are not Windows. Armin ___

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 3 for Windows 64-bit systems - no download link available

2018-10-21 Thread Barry Scott
> On 19 Oct 2018, at 11:26, Armin Rigo wrote: > > Hi, > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 12:23, wrote: >> It will not run with PyPy https://pypy.org/download.html on Windows, because >> there are only 32-bit PyPy installs for Windows available > > PyPy is not available for 64-bit Windows. See > ht

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 3 for Windows 64-bit systems - no download link available

2018-10-19 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi, On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 12:23, wrote: > It will not run with PyPy https://pypy.org/download.html on Windows, because > there are only 32-bit PyPy installs for Windows available PyPy is not available for 64-bit Windows. See http://doc.pypy.org/en/latest/windows.html#what-is-missing-for-a-ful

Re: [pypy-dev] [pypy-commit] pypy cpyext-faster-arg-passing: document branch

2018-01-31 Thread Antonio Cuni
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Carl Friedrich Bolz-Tereick wrote: > Hi Anto, > > Yes, I ran your benchmarks and they are improved, particularly the ones > that pass arguments. > ​cool :)​ > I need to rerun them now that I merged default. However, I would prefer it > if we could find a real

Re: [pypy-dev] [pypy-commit] pypy cpyext-faster-arg-passing: document branch

2018-01-31 Thread Carl Friedrich Bolz-Tereick
Hi Anto, Yes, I ran your benchmarks and they are improved, particularly the ones that pass arguments. I need to rerun them now that I merged default. However, I would prefer it if we could find a real life cpyext benchmark (maybe using numpy?). Cheers, Carl Friedrich Carl Friedrich On Janu

Re: [pypy-dev] [pypy-commit] pypy cpyext-faster-arg-passing: document branch

2018-01-31 Thread Antonio Cuni
Hi Carl, wow, this looks awesome. Did you run benchmarks to measure the speedup? If yes, should we add them to my repo? https://github.com/antocuni/cpyext-benchmarks ciao, Anto On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 1:31 PM, cfbolz wrote: > Author: Carl Friedrich Bolz-Tereick > Branch: cpyext-faster-arg-pass

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10.1 release candidates are up, please try them out

2018-01-13 Thread Matti Picus
On 13/01/18 00:03, Armin Rigo wrote: Hi Neal, On 12 January 2018 at 20:35, Neal Becker wrote: So Fedora has libbz2.so.1 and libbz2.so.1.0.6, but no libbz2.so.1.0. In fact, isn't depending on libbz2.so.1.0 an error? Unless I'm mistaken, it's what we get from ``gcc -lbz2`` on Ubuntu. If you th

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10.1 release candidates are up, please try them out

2018-01-12 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi Neal, On 12 January 2018 at 20:35, Neal Becker wrote: > So Fedora has libbz2.so.1 and libbz2.so.1.0.6, but no libbz2.so.1.0. In > fact, isn't depending on libbz2.so.1.0 an error? Unless I'm mistaken, it's what we get from ``gcc -lbz2`` on Ubuntu. If you think doing so gives a dependency that

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10.1 release candidates are up, please try them out

2018-01-12 Thread Neal Becker
Neal Becker wrote: > Matti Picus wrote: > >> >> >> On 12/01/18 14:33, Neal Becker wrote: >>> Haven't tried pypy for some time, but just tried it on fedora 27. >>> pypy >>> pypy: error while loading shared libraries: libbz2.so.1.0: cannot open >>> shared object file: No such file or directory >>

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10.1 release candidates are up, please try them out

2018-01-12 Thread Neal Becker
Matti Picus wrote: > > > On 12/01/18 14:33, Neal Becker wrote: >> Haven't tried pypy for some time, but just tried it on fedora 27. >> pypy >> pypy: error while loading shared libraries: libbz2.so.1.0: cannot open >> shared object file: No such file or directory >> >> I d/l pypy3-v5.10.1-linux64

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10.1 release candidates are up, please try them out

2018-01-12 Thread Matti Picus
On 12/01/18 14:33, Neal Becker wrote: Haven't tried pypy for some time, but just tried it on fedora 27. pypy pypy: error while loading shared libraries: libbz2.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I d/l pypy3-v5.10.1-linux64.tar.bz2 and installed locally. _

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10.1 release candidates are up, please try them out

2018-01-12 Thread Neal Becker
Matti Picus wrote: > I have uploaded pypy3.5 v5.10.1 bug-fix release candidates to > https://bitbucket.org/pypy/pypy/downloads please test them out. > > The sha256 hashes are available at the end of the source for the website > https://bitbucket.org/pypy/pypy.org/src/extradoc/source/download.txt

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy sprint in Poland

2018-01-09 Thread Manuel Jacob
I enjoyed the Warsaw sprint a lot, especially the food options, but I guess that the other options would be nice as well. Shortly after the Leysin sprint isn't optimal, but okay for me. However, I don't have time around May 1. On 2018-01-07 10:26, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: Hi Everyone. It

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy sprint in Poland

2018-01-08 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi, On 7 January 2018 at 10:26, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: > * we can have a sprint at my climbing spot - it's quite a problem to > get to (~2-3h by train from either Prague or Wroclaw), but it's > incredibly lovely at this time of the year. There is a venue and > internet that we can use. Limited

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy sprint in Poland

2018-01-08 Thread Antonio Cuni
Hi, I'd be happy to come. Since I have already been to Warsaw, I vote for Krakow or Wroclaw. The only thing is that April is quite busy for me; ATM, the only reasonable dates are somewhere between 3rd and 13th. May it's surely easier :) On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote:

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-03 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 8:50 PM, Matti Picus wrote: > On 1/4/2018 3:15 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: >> None of Linux, Windows, or MacOS provide reasonable pre-existing >> OpenSSL installs you can use. So it seems to me that if PyPy's going >> to ship any binaries at all and take that seriously, then

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-03 Thread Matt Billenstein
Looks like they ship a shared lib on osx which is different from how they handle 2.7: mattb@mattb-mbp2:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions $ find . -name '*ssl*.so' | xargs otool -L ./2.7/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload/_ssl.so: /usr/lib/libssl.0.9.8.dylib (compatibility version 0.9.8

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-03 Thread Matti Picus
On 1/4/2018 3:15 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Alex Gaynor wrote: If PyPy releases include a copy of OpenSSL (or LibreSSL) then we need to be in the business of issuing new releases whenever upstream has a security release, we can't be shipping people OpenSSLs with

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-03 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Alex Gaynor wrote: > If PyPy releases include a copy of OpenSSL (or LibreSSL) then we need to be > in the business of issuing new releases whenever upstream has a security > release, we can't be shipping people OpenSSLs with known security issues. > > Of LibreSSL an

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-03 Thread Matt Billenstein
On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 07:06:13PM -0500, Alex Gaynor wrote: >pyca/cryptography issues a new release on all platforms for any OpenSSL >security releases. Yeah, but that's part of the library ecosystem -- not really an end product? m -- Matt Billenstein m...@vazor.com http://www.vazor.co

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-03 Thread Alex Gaynor
pyca/cryptography issues a new release on all platforms for any OpenSSL security releases. :-), Alex On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 7:05 PM, Matt Billenstein wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 06:51:21PM -0500, Alex Gaynor wrote: > >If PyPy releases include a copy of OpenSSL (or LibreSSL) then we nee

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-03 Thread Matt Billenstein
On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 06:51:21PM -0500, Alex Gaynor wrote: >If PyPy releases include a copy of OpenSSL (or LibreSSL) then we need to >be in the business of issuing new releases whenever upstream has a >security release, we can't be shipping people OpenSSLs with known security >iss

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-03 Thread Alex Gaynor
If PyPy releases include a copy of OpenSSL (or LibreSSL) then we need to be in the business of issuing new releases whenever upstream has a security release, we can't be shipping people OpenSSLs with known security issues. Of LibreSSL and OpenSSL, I'd choose to ship OpenSSL -- I've found LibreSSL

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-03 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Jan 3, 2018 02:17, "Matt Billenstein" wrote: So, I think updating LibreSSL branches every 6-12 months and using the latest point release for a new pypy release is probably a good plan. BTW you should consult your local cryptographic engineer – I guess that's probably Alex Gaynor? – before de

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-03 Thread Matt Billenstein
On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 09:08:22AM +0100, Armin Rigo wrote: > Given that situation my own vote would be to find the easiest solution > that seems to work (maybe just link to the outdated openssl) and add a > warning next to the download link on our web page, with a link to the > homebrew version.

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-03 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi, On 3 January 2018 at 06:53, Yury V. Zaytsev wrote: > Basically only bloat (not an argument) and necessity to track OpenSSL > security updates & release new versions when they come out... ...which I'm sure will not be done, because there is no-one in the PyPy core group that is both security-

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-02 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
On Wed, 3 Jan 2018, Matti Picus wrote: Perhaps we should break with CPython here and statically link on macosx. Is there a downside to statically linking ssl and libffi? Basically only bloat (not an argument) and necessity to track OpenSSL security updates & release new versions when they com

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-02 Thread Matt Billenstein
On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 07:45:07AM +0200, Matti Picus wrote: > Perhaps we should break with CPython here and statically link on > macosx. Is there a downside to statically linking ssl and libffi? Seems like a great solution given you've already sorted this out on pypy3. No telling what Apple migh

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-02 Thread Matti Picus
On 03/01/18 02:04, Matt Billenstein wrote: On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 03:25:17PM -0800, Nathaniel Smith wrote: I'm pretty sure that the right solution is to ship your own copy of openssl with the build, so that you're totally independent from Apple's ssl shenanigans. Maybe look at how C

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-02 Thread Nathaniel Smith
Which version of CPython are you looking at? Here's the patch that switched the official MacOS builds to always using a private copy of openssl: https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/bfd0a73cf907 (Found here: https://bugs.python.org/issue17128) On Jan 2, 2018 16:04, "Matt Billenstein" wrote: > On T

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-02 Thread Alex Gaynor
I'm pretty sure the LibreSSL that macOS includes is not intended for public linkage. If you want to ship binaries on macOS that use OpenSSL, the thing to do is to ship your own OpenSSL and update whenever OpenSSL performs a security release. Alex On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 7:04 PM, Matt Billenstein

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-02 Thread Matt Billenstein
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 03:25:17PM -0800, Nathaniel Smith wrote: >I'm pretty sure that the right solution is to ship your own copy of >openssl with the build, so that you're totally independent from Apple's >ssl shenanigans. Maybe look at how CPython handles this. That does seem more c

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-02 Thread Nathaniel Smith
I'm pretty sure that the right solution is to ship your own copy of openssl with the build, so that you're totally independent from Apple's ssl shenanigans. Maybe look at how CPython handles this. On Jan 2, 2018 2:28 PM, "Matt Billenstein" wrote: > Hi all, > > So the general issue seems to be Ap

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-02 Thread Barry Hart via pypy-dev
I think supporting just the more recent OS X releases (Sierra, High Sierra) is fine. I recently had to upgrade my Mac to Sierra because I was running into packages that wouldn't work on the older version. (There seems to be a "get_entropy" function in Sierra, and things were failing because it w

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2018-01-01 Thread Matti Picus
On 31/12/2017 10:59 AM, blanch wrote: hello, thanks for the 5.10 release! just a problem on the mac: it seems that the pypy3 binaries are linked against a libffi provided by a package manager (homebrew?), since dyld is looking for /usr/local/opt/libffi/lib/libffi.6.dylib (see below the error

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2017-12-31 Thread blanch
hello, thanks for the 5.10 release! just a problem on the mac: it seems that the pypy3 binaries are linked against a libffi provided by a package manager (homebrew?), since dyld is looking for /usr/local/opt/libffi/lib/libffi.6.dylib (see below the error reported and otool output). since i do n

Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 5.10 release

2017-12-25 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
Hi Matti The build on downloads for OS X works only on High Sierra (10.13), since it expects utimesat in libc, which is only available from High Sierra. I will build a Sierra version on my computer that (hopefully) works on older OS X too. Otherwise looks good to go, I will update the website and

Re: [pypy-dev] [pypy-commit] pypy default: "eh". On pypy we need to be careful in which order we have pendingblocks.

2017-11-20 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
ah indeed, that's a much better fix :-) The original was done a bit haphazardly :-) On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 11:07 PM, Armin Rigo wrote: > Hi, > > On 9 November 2017 at 10:07, Antonio Cuni wrote: >> I suppose that the explanation that you put in the commit message should >> also go in a comment

Re: [pypy-dev] [pypy-commit] pypy default: "eh". On pypy we need to be careful in which order we have pendingblocks.

2017-11-19 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi, On 9 November 2017 at 10:07, Antonio Cuni wrote: > I suppose that the explanation that you put in the commit message should > also go in a comment inside the source code, else when someone sees it it's > just obscure. Done in d00a16ef468f. I reverted the addition of ShuffleDict, and instead

Re: [pypy-dev] [pypy-commit] pypy default: "eh". On pypy we need to be careful in which order we have pendingblocks.

2017-11-09 Thread Antonio Cuni
Hi, I suppose that the explanation that you put in the commit message should also go in a comment inside the source code, else when someone sees it it's just obscure. Also, it'd be nice to have some tests about ShuffleDict :) On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 2:55 AM, fijal wrote: > Author: fijal > Branch

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 5.9 release cycle has begun

2017-09-25 Thread Omer Katz
Same section nsure that mappingproxy is recognised as a mapping, not a sequence Should be Ensure. Also links to issues aren't clickable. ‫בתאריך יום ב׳, 25 בספט׳ 2017 ב-14:15 מאת ‪Omer Katz‬‏ <‪omer.d...@gmail.com ‬‏>:‬ > Typo in > http://pypy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/release-v5.9.0.html#highli

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 5.9 release cycle has begun

2017-09-25 Thread Omer Katz
Typo in http://pypy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/release-v5.9.0.html#highlights-of-the-pypy3-5-release-since-5-8-beta-released-june-2017 : mplement PyType_FromSpec (PEP 384) and fix issues with PEP 489 support Should be implement ‫בתאריך יום ב׳, 25 בספט׳ 2017 ב-10:20 מאת ‪Gelin Yan‬‏ <‪dynami...@gmai

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy 5.9 release cycle has begun

2017-09-25 Thread Gelin Yan
hi matti there is a minor typo: cython 2.7 ought to be cython 0.27 regards gelin yan ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev

Re: [pypy-dev] Pypy seems not so active recently since I can't find any talk related to pypy in PYCON 2017

2017-08-05 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi, On 5 August 2017 at 00:00, Meide Zhao wrote: > I'm looking for a recent talk on pypy but can't find one in PYCON 2017. It > seems pypy is not so hot recently. That's because we're mostly not travelling to the US any more. You have to look at other conferences like EuroPython. A bientôt,

Re: [pypy-dev] Pypy seems not so active recently since I can't find any talk related to pypy in PYCON 2017

2017-08-04 Thread rym...@gmail.com
Not so active? https://morepypy.blogspot.com/2017/06/pypy-v58-released.html https://morepypy.blogspot.com/2017/07/binary-wheels-for-pypy.html? -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOIST), Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone elsehttp://refi64.com On Aug 4, 2017 at 5:02 PM, > wrote: Hi all,

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy v5.8 released

2017-06-08 Thread Konstantin Lopuhin
Congrats on the release and thanks a lot everyone for your hard work! Just noticed that the link for PyPy 3 on http://pypy.org/download.html gives a 404, and I don't see pypy3 5.8 here https://bitbucket.org/pypy/pypy/downloads/ either. 2017-06-09 1:25 GMT+03:00 Matti Picus : > https://morepypy.bl

Re: [pypy-dev] PyPy Benchmarks

2017-04-19 Thread Victor Stinner
2017-04-19 7:32 GMT+02:00 Frank Wang : > Awesome thanks, Victor! For https://bitbucket.org/pypy/benchmarks, is there > an explanation on what each of these benchmarks are? There doesn't seem to > be a README. performance shares many benchmarks, so you can first look at performance documentation: h

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