Re: [Python-3000] pep-0362?

2007-09-06 Thread Aahz
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007, Neal Becker wrote: > > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0362/ > > This would be helpful for boost::python. Any thoughts on approving this for > python-3k? What would be helpful IMO is using a Subject: line that doesn't require using a browser to find out what the thread i

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] Google spreadsheet to collaborate on backporting Py3K stuff to 2.6

2007-09-06 Thread Guido van Rossum
I've transferred everything from my spreadsheet to Neal's. On 9/5/07, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Neal, Anthony, Thomas W., and I have a spreadsheet that was started to > keep track of what needs to be done in what needs to be done in 2.6 > for Py3K transitioning: > http://spreadshee

Re: [Python-3000] pep-0362?

2007-09-06 Thread Collin Winter
On 9/6/07, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I haven't read it, but it seems very similar to the new annotations > > > capability in py3k (pep 3107). Will that not suffice? > > > > Which I notice has a "Requires: 362

Re: [Python-3000] pep-0362?

2007-09-06 Thread Brett Cannon
On 9/6/07, Joel Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0362/ > > > > This would be helpful for boost::python. > > Speaking of helpful... > > class X: > def f(self): pass > > class Y(X): pass > > ...I would like a mechanism to indicate that Y.f is

Re: [Python-3000] pep-0362?

2007-09-06 Thread Joel Bender
> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0362/ > > This would be helpful for boost::python. Speaking of helpful... class X: def f(self): pass class Y(X): pass ...I would like a mechanism to indicate that Y.f is inherited, and I was hoping that perhaps that information could be

Re: [Python-3000] Default dict iterator should have been iteritems()

2007-09-06 Thread Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
Dnia 04-09-2007, Wt o godzinie 11:09 +0200, Georg Brandl napisał(a): > Even if it's true that a loop over items is more common than a loop over keys, > "x in keys" is much more common than "x in items". In my language iterating over dict yields (key,value) pairs, but the equivalent of "x in dict"

Re: [Python-3000] pep-0362?

2007-09-06 Thread Brett Cannon
On 9/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Neal> This would be helpful for boost::python. Any thoughts on > Neal> approving this for python-3k? > > I haven't read it, but it seems very similar to the new annotations > capability in py3k (pep 3107). Will that not suffice?

Re: [Python-3000] pep-0362?

2007-09-06 Thread Brett Cannon
On 9/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I haven't read it, but it seems very similar to the new annotations > > capability in py3k (pep 3107). Will that not suffice? > > Which I notice has a "Requires: 362" field. Perhaps you're good to go. ;-) I think that is there

Re: [Python-3000] pep-0362?

2007-09-06 Thread Brett Cannon
On 9/6/07, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sep 6, 2007, at 8:33 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0362/ > > > > This would be helpful for boost::python. Any thoughts on approving > > this for > > python-3k? > > The var_args and var_kw_args definitions are a l

Re: [Python-3000] pep-0362?

2007-09-06 Thread Paul Moore
On 06/09/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I haven't read it, but it seems very similar to the new annotations >> capability in py3k (pep 3107). Will that not suffice? > > Which I notice has a "Requires: 362" field. Perhaps you're good to go. ;-) Apparently not (yet,

Re: [Python-3000] 3.0 crypto (was: Re: Solaris support in 3.0?)

2007-09-06 Thread Guido van Rossum
[Adding Greg P Smith who owns the hashes, and Bill Janssen who has recently taken over our SSL support.] Traditionally this is something for which the core developers haven't had an inclination, so it's been left to 3rd party packages. The position of the US government on crypto export hasn't help

Re: [Python-3000] pep-0362?

2007-09-06 Thread skip
> I haven't read it, but it seems very similar to the new annotations > capability in py3k (pep 3107). Will that not suffice? Which I notice has a "Requires: 362" field. Perhaps you're good to go. ;-) Skip ___ Python-3000 mailing list Pytho

Re: [Python-3000] pep-0362?

2007-09-06 Thread skip
Neal> This would be helpful for boost::python. Any thoughts on Neal> approving this for python-3k? I haven't read it, but it seems very similar to the new annotations capability in py3k (pep 3107). Will that not suffice? Skip ___ Python-3000

Re: [Python-3000] pep-0362?

2007-09-06 Thread Fred Drake
On Sep 6, 2007, at 8:33 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0362/ > > This would be helpful for boost::python. Any thoughts on approving > this for > python-3k? The var_args and var_kw_args definitions are a little weird. Why use the empty string instead of None when

[Python-3000] pep-0362?

2007-09-06 Thread Neal Becker
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0362/ This would be helpful for boost::python. Any thoughts on approving this for python-3k? ___ Python-3000 mailing list Python-3000@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-3000 Unsubscribe: http:/

Re: [Python-3000] 3.0 crypto

2007-09-06 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> This gets at what most interests me -- namely, whether there's a strong > legal barrier to including more crypto with Python than just the hashes > we have at the moment. It sounds like the answer is 'yes', but what are > the details? The export permission allows for exporting "mass-market" soft

Re: [Python-3000] Default dict iterator should have been iteritems()

2007-09-06 Thread Thomas Wouters
On 9/6/07, Noam Raphael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (Sorry, it turns out that I posted this reply only to Nick and not to > the list, so I post it again.) > > On 9/4/07, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Containment and iteration really do need to be kept consistent and > > having the

Re: [Python-3000] 3.0 crypto

2007-09-06 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Sep 6, 2007, at 4:09 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > There are more issues, of course: some countries restrict the use > of cryptography. France is given as an example: you need to register > your cryptography keys with the government (SCSSI) before you can > use confidentiality-oriented algorithms

Re: [Python-3000] Solaris support in 3.0?

2007-09-06 Thread Paul Moore
On 05/09/07, Gregory P. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rather than resurrecting the old RSA-copyright md5.c I can easily make new > ones out of the libtomcrypt md5 and sha1 sources the same way i created the > non-openssl sha256 and sha512 modules. Which reminds me - when I build Python 3 (on

Re: [Python-3000] 3.0 crypto

2007-09-06 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> On the wider subject of crypto in Python, is there someone who actively > takes care of this area and who could clarify any legal/export > restrictions on what gets included with the source distribution? The PSF does (more specifically, the PSF board, and even more specifically, Tim Peters). We

[Python-3000] 3.0 crypto (was: Re: Solaris support in 3.0?)

2007-09-06 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Sep 5, 2007, at 12:09 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > That's for 2.5. In 3.0 (currently), hashlib requires OpenSSL. On the wider subject of crypto in Python, is there someone who actively takes care of this area and who could clarify any legal/ export restrictions on what gets included with the

Re: [Python-3000] Default dict iterator should have been iteritems()

2007-09-06 Thread Noam Raphael
(Sorry, it turns out that I posted this reply only to Nick and not to the list, so I post it again.) On 9/4/07, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Containment and iteration really do need to be kept consistent and > having the value matter when checking for dictionary containment would > be