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Instead of inserting Mul into the namespace of different modules, you
do something like:
from .mul import Mul
at the bottom of files that use the cyclic import.
>
> * if it is supposed to work, is this a bug in python3.0?
No, Python 3.0 is just being stricter. :) Yo
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number of times I've used it. In other words, I'm tempted to stretch our
> beloved term "unpythonic" to regular expressions. This is rare for a small
> python module.
Try the comp.lang.python or python-ideas mailing list. This list is
more devoted to the current deve
on of OSX contains 3.0 or not -- but I do
> care about it having 2.6.
I'm not really sure what good that would do us unless we wanted to
bring 3.0 back to the beta phase and continue to work on some larger
issues with it. I also suspect doing two separate, but close together
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> use when checking for integers is desired.
I believe he wants PyIndex_Check then.
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on the trunk, but as it is an externally maintained module, there
isn't much I can do about it. (see issue #3401). Overall, though, I
think we've done what we can here, so these shouldn't hold up the
release.
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> Re
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> That's where Mercurial's "hg rollback" comes in very handy. And it's actually
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I can do that for you. OTOH, I think it's time we gave Antoine commit
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tyle
> type hierarchy.
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> * ``TestResult``
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> * ``TestSuite``
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>>> Seems to make
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> get_all_fix_names
> names = os.listdir(fixer_dir)
> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'lib2to3/fixes'
>
> What am I missing?
Please see http://bugs.python.org/3131.
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> i tried to build Python3.0b1 but the make process hangs
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nctionality is there, but its consequences on exception reporting
> are still non-existent (no funky multi-traceback exception messages for you).
Wonderful! I was just about to make an issue for this anyway. I think
Guido said this is something that could be implemented post-beta,
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>>
>> Already done.
>
> Done what? Fixed, or backed out? Any more details? Old farts who
> aren't on IRC want to know. :-)
That wo
for about 3 more
> hours and if this can't be fixed by then, we will have to postpone the
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> udp.close()
>
> output:
> main
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> 16. But thanks to all the help I have been receiving on PEP 3108, I
> trust the various people involved to continue to do the right thing in
> my absence.
That reminds me of those Dilbert cartoons where his mother ends up
knowing much more about computers
#x27;t apply to 3.1 or
> 3.2 -- by which time the unicode-keyed dicts or oddly-converted print
> statements may change the importance.
Notice how Guido said he's opposed to it, *and* it would cause too
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>>
>> I'm pretty sure that plat-mac is going to go, but can Brett confirm?
>
> Ditch it. It's empty so there is no need to keep it. I
t were removed in Python 3.
I'm pretty sure that plat-mac is going to go, but can Brett confirm?
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> Issue 2854 - gestalt needs to be added back into 3.0. This is
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At the moment, we are preparing to ship betas, so this kind of
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> commit freezes for the betas though.
I wonder if you couldn't alter the server side commit hook to reject
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>
> > It seems that os.walk has more options and a cleaner interface to
> > walking trees than os.path.walk does. Is there support for the removal
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> Anyone have an issue with me doing this? Is PendingDeprecationWarning
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I vote for a full DeprecationWarning.
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> return unicodes. That's the cleanest API we can do for Python.
I have a patch for something like this at issue 2512.
from the zen of Python
It's practical to have a builtin function silently "lie" about the
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>tests that are skipped because an import failed for the removed
>module.
Why don't why apply the patch at issue 2409, so catching imports is easier?
+1 Overall, I'm very impressed. It's hard to find a PEP (especially
this big) that doesn't cause
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True. I was trying to convey the unrepeated part of the set
definition. Is "an ordered set of integers" better?
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>
> > lens are forced to be <= Py_ssize_t because that's the limit put on
> > sequence sizes.
>
> But this should b
>
> >From an external point of view, and knowing that ints are unbound, why
> should I have an error here?
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I'm working on a patch for this. However, the exception system must
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A Py3k warning is already a extended DeprecationWarning! Why don't we
just give it a DeprecationWarning in 3.0?
>
> Georg
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> > they should be eq
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>
> implementations provide these
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Is there a reason this is not implemented, though? It's seems to me
they should be equivalent.
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On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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be reasonably placed, of course.)
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ys and the "interpreter" module
Version: $Revision$
Last-Modified: $Date$
Author: Benjamin Peterson
Status: Draft
Type: Standards Track
Content-Type: text/x-rst
Created: 4-April-2008
Python-Version: 3.0
Abstract
This PEP proposes a new low-level module for CPython-specific interpreter
f
While working on the io module docs, I noticed the annotation for readinto
methods is bytes. This should be bytearray, right?
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On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Neal Norwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Benjamin Peterson
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> > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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7;t happen again.
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> > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > Thanks -- that was quick!
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