Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brett Cannon wrote: | On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |>> On Jul 17, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: |>>> bsddb is in a ver

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin v. Löwis wrote: | bsddb is in a very bad shape, as the 2.6 code hasn't been merged into | 3k. I somewhat doubt that this gets resolved before the release, so | bsddb users might need to skip 3.0. Working on the 3.0 port just now. 03:40 in the

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Nick Coghlan writes: > And downloading pybsddb and installing really shouldn't be all that > difficult :) It shouldn't be, but lots of "enterprise"[1] environments will require qualifying the "new" package according to corporate standards. I won't argue that this is a sufficient reason to kee

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Josiah Carlson
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 18, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Josiah Carlson wrote: >> >> It's entirely possible that I know very little about what was being >> made available via the bsddb module, but to match the API of what is >> included in the documenta

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Nick Coghlan
Fred Drake wrote: On Jul 18, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Josiah Carlson wrote: It's entirely possible that I know very little about what was being made available via the bsddb module, but to match the API of what is included in the documentation (plus the dictionary interface that it supports) shouldn't b

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Brett Cannon
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Fred Drake
On Jul 18, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Josiah Carlson wrote: It's entirely possible that I know very little about what was being made available via the bsddb module, but to match the API of what is included in the documentation (plus the dictionary interface that it supports) shouldn't be terribly difficul

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Josiah Carlson
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Josiah Carlson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Invariably, when someone goes and removes a module, someone else is >> going to complain, "but I used feature X, not having feature X will >

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Josiah Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Invariably, when someone goes and removes a module, someone else is > going to complain, "but I used feature X, not having feature X will > break my code." We, as maintainers can then say, "if you cared, > maintain it."

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Josiah Carlson
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-18 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Jul 17, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: bsddb

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-17 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Jul 17, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: >>> >>> bsddb is in a very bad shape, as the 2.6 code hasn't been merged into >>> 3k. I somewh

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 17, 2008, at 10:37 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 17, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: bsddb is in a very bad shape, as the 2.6 code hasn't been merged in

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-17 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 17, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: >> >> bsddb is in a very bad shape, as the 2.6 code hasn't been merged into >> 3k. I somewhat doubt that this gets resolved before the release, so >> bsddb users might need t

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-17 Thread Fred Drake
On Jul 17, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: bsddb is in a very bad shape, as the 2.6 code hasn't been merged into 3k. I somewhat doubt that this gets resolved before the release, so bsddb users might need to skip 3.0. In fact, bsddb as packages in core Python has rarely been in good sh

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-17 Thread barry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 18, 2008, at 01:27 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: >> The Windows buildbots are not very happy, though. test_ssl and >> test_bsddb and constantly failing on both the trunk and py3k. I don't >> know much about either of these items (or Windows for th

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-17 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:27 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The Windows buildbots are not very happy, though. test_ssl and >> test_bsddb and constantly failing on both the trunk and py3k. I don't >> know much about either of these items (or Windows for that matter), so >> any h

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-17 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> The Windows buildbots are not very happy, though. test_ssl and > test_bsddb and constantly failing on both the trunk and py3k. I don't > know much about either of these items (or Windows for that matter), so > any help would be greatly appreciated. bsddb is in a very bad shape, as the 2.6 code h

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-17 Thread Bill Janssen
> The Windows buildbots are not very happy, though. test_ssl ... > constantly failing on both the trunk and py3k. I've checked in patches for test_ssl on both branches. Let's see how the Windows buildbots do. Bill ___ Python-3000 mailing list Python-30

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-17 Thread Jesse Noller
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Jesse Noller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> We have green buildbots, yay! Thanks everyone for that. >> >> However, we still have three

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-17 Thread Bill Janssen
> > test_ssl ... constantly failing on both the trunk and py3k. > > I'll take a closer look at this. It's the new test added in lately. > Seems to be working on non-Windows platforms, so I'm guessing it's > some Windows oddity, which I'm not very good at diagnosing. Worst > comes to worst, we ca

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-17 Thread Bill Janssen
> test_ssl ... constantly failing on both the trunk and py3k. I'll take a closer look at this. It's the new test added in lately. Seems to be working on non-Windows platforms, so I'm guessing it's some Windows oddity, which I'm not very good at diagnosing. Worst comes to worst, we can take out t

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-17 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Jesse Noller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Jesse Noller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> 3375: Guido (thanks guido) looked into this, and while I banged my

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-17 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > We have green buildbots, yay! Thanks everyone for that. The Windows buildbots are not very happy, though. test_ssl and test_bsddb and constantly failing on both the trun

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-17 Thread Jesse Noller
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Jesse Noller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 3375: Guido (thanks guido) looked into this, and while I banged my >> head on it a lot yesterday - guido's identified the issue, and now I >> n

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-17 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Jesse Noller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3375: Guido (thanks guido) looked into this, and while I banged my > head on it a lot yesterday - guido's identified the issue, and now I > need to figure out a fix - help is welcome on this one. You're welcome. I would hav

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] No beta2 tonight

2008-07-17 Thread Jesse Noller
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > We have green buildbots, yay! Thanks everyone for that. > > However, we still have three release blocker issues that I am not > comfortable deferring. > > 3088 test_multi