Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] 2.6 and 3.0 project management

2008-03-17 Thread Anand Balachandran Pillai
Hi py3k, First of all, excuse me for taking your time. I am new to the list so, not familiar with the processes specific to the list, if any. I am new to the list (joined a week back) but not new to Python having coded in it for a fair bit of time and contributed open source code in Pyt

Re: [Python-3000] Making 2to3 installable

2008-03-17 Thread Greg Ewing
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > It's currently called lib2to3, > so I can't see why two2three would be better I was just thinking that '2to3' wouldn't be a valid module name. I guess 'lib2to3' works too (or 2), and is easier 2 type 2. -- Greg ___ Python-3000

Re: [Python-3000] Using *a for packing in lists and other places

2008-03-17 Thread Marcin ‘Qrczak’ Kowalczyk
Dnia 16-03-2008, N o godzinie 18:20 -0400, Terry Reedy pisze: > The rule I suggested is 'execute the statement the same *as if* the > iterable items had been written in the code as a comma sequence'. One reason I don't like this rule is that it works on the level of the token sequence rather th

[Python-3000] New to Python-dev (was Re: [Python-Dev] 2.6 and 3.0 project management)

2008-03-17 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 2:48 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi py3k, > > First of all, excuse me for taking your time. I am new to the list > so, not familiar with the processes specific to the list, if any. > > > I am new to the list (joined a week back) bu

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] 2.6 and 3.0 project management

2008-03-17 Thread Guido van Rossum
Glad you want to help! You can find plenty of things to do in the bug tracker at bugs.python.org. Note that 2.6 needs as much (or more!) love as 3.0 at this point. (2.6 is being developed in the svn trunk.) Feel free to tentatively pick a project and send mail here asking if that's something we'd

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] 2.6 and 3.0 project management

2008-03-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 16, 2008, at 6:46 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > 'critical' is fine (or 'immediate'). My problem before was that I > couldn't do one query that gave me all the critical issues for both > 2.6 and 3.0. That certainly could have been pebkac though.

Re: [Python-3000] New to Python-dev (was Re: [Python-Dev] 2.6 and 3.0 project management)

2008-03-17 Thread Douglas Mayle
I accidentally sent this reply to Benjamin, sorry for the two copies: I'm brand new on this list as well, so take what I say with a grain of salt, but a group of us here at PyCon are about to start sprinting, and they've given us some very good resources to help us get started. Brett Canno

[Python-3000] I/O stuff

2008-03-17 Thread Benjamin Peterson
Hi, What's the current status of I/O in Py3k? Are plans there to implement some if not all of io.py in C. (If not, I can work on this.) Also, is I/O going to be backported to 2.6? Thanks, Benjamin Peterson ___ Python-3000 mailing list Python-3000@python.

Re: [Python-3000] I/O stuff

2008-03-17 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Benjamin Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the current status of I/O in Py3k? Ping is looking at it. There are quite a few things broken in the handling of seek/tell on text files. > Are plans there to implement some if not all of io.py in C. (If not,

[Python-3000] python-safethread project status

2008-03-17 Thread Adam Olsen
Guido's asked me to give a quick status report, so here I go.. The critical parts of the design and implementation are basically done. I've implemented monitors to contain objects without an explicit thread-safe API, which then let me remove the GIL. I've created a synchronous/asynchronous refco

Re: [Python-3000] python-safethread project status

2008-03-17 Thread Guido van Rossum
Thanks! Would you care to give us a hint on how a typical multi-threaded application would be written using this approach? How much pre-existing code would break do you expect? On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Adam Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guido's asked me to give a quick status report,

Re: [Python-3000] python-safethread project status

2008-03-17 Thread Adam Olsen
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Adam Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Guido's asked me to give a quick status report, so here I go.. > > > > The critical parts of the design and implementation are basically >

Re: [Python-3000] Using *a for packing in lists and other places

2008-03-17 Thread Terry Reedy
"Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Dnia 16-03-2008, N o godzinie 18:20 -0400, Terry Reedy pisze: | | > The rule I suggested is 'execute the statement the same *as if* the | > iterable items had been written in the code as a comma sequence'.

[Python-3000] 3rd party developers: don't change your APIs when porting to Py3k!

2008-03-17 Thread Guido van Rossum
For those who don't read blogs, I just blogged the slides for my keynote, and added an important admonishment to 3rd party developers. Here's the full text of the blog: The slides of my `keynote`_ are now up on python.org. There's both a `PowerPoint`_ and a `PDF`_ file. .. _keynote: http://www.p

[Python-3000] PEP 361: Python 2.6/3.0 release schedule

2008-03-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
Greetings from Pycon 2008! Neal Norwitz and I have worked out the schedule for Python 2.6 and 3.0, which will be released in lockstep. We will be following a monthly release schedule, with releases to occur on the first Wednesday of the month. We'll move to a 2 week schedule for the rel

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] 3rd party developers: don't change your APIs when porting to Py3k!

2008-03-17 Thread Bill Janssen
Now I apparently need an email reader that understands reStructuredText :-). Bill ___ Python-3000 mailing list Python-3000@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-3000 Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-3000/arc

Re: [Python-3000] [Python-Dev] 3rd party developers: don't change your APIs when porting to Py3k! (but consider using ctypes)

2008-03-17 Thread zooko
I'm the maintainer of a few Python packages which wrap native C or C+ + code. At Pycon, I learned that PyPy and Jython support ctypes or have plans to do so in the near future. I don't know about IronPython. However, having CPython, PyPy, and Jython all supporting ctypes makes it the obviou