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Ned Deily added the comment:
ActiveTcl 8.5.13 has now been released and, per ActiveState's usual practice of
making only the current release and its immediate predecessor publicly
downloadable, the ActiveTcl 8.5.11.1 release is no longer available at the URL
above, as Vance noted. 8.5.13
Vance Maverick added the comment:
FYI, http://downloads.activestate.com/ActiveTcl/releases/8.5.11.1/ is no longer
online, so that workaround is no longer possible.
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Roger Serwy added the comment:
The patch works with 3.3.0 and 2.7.3 on Windows 7.
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Roundup Robot added the comment:
New changeset d089b8fb0f56 by Ned Deily in branch '2.7':
Issue #15853: Prevent IDLE crash on OS X when opening Preferences menu
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/d089b8fb0f56
New changeset a3d755eaf5fa by Ned Deily in branch '3.2':
Issue #15853: Prevent IDLE
Ned Deily added the comment:
Thanks for everyone's help on this. To summarize, opening IDLE's Preferences
menu when Python is dynamically linking to ActiveTcl 8.5.12.1 (at this writing,
the most recent version) causes Tk to crash. The committed patches here avoid
the crash by changing Tk
Pedro Meirelles added the comment:
Hello,
I am biologist I am just starting to learn Python.
I have a mac and I am using OS X 10.8.2. I have installed Python 2.7.3 and when
I try to copy and paste (use command) or go to preferences IDLE crashes. I did
what Ned Deily said in msg169739:
sudo
Ned Deily added the comment:
Pedro, try installing the older ActiveTcl 8.5.11.1 from here:
http://downloads.activestate.com/ActiveTcl/releases/8.5.11.1/
It is not perfect but does not have the Preferences regression and does have
fixes for crashes when typing composite input characters.
Pedro Meirelles added the comment:
Thank you very much, Ned!
It worked, awesome!
All the best
2012/10/20 Ned Deily rep...@bugs.python.org
Ned Deily added the comment:
Pedro, try installing the older ActiveTcl 8.5.11.1 from here:
Ned Deily added the comment:
The attached patch applies cleanly to default, 3.3, 3.2, and 2.7. It appears
to prevent the Tk crash observed with ActiveTcl 8.5.12.1 with all of them and I
did not observe regressions when briefly tested on OS X with older versions of
Tk 8.5 or Tk 8.4 nor on
Ned Deily added the comment:
I'm still not keen on working around a Tk crash by modifying IDLE especially
when we know exactly which Tk change set caused the regression. On the other
hand, I sympathize with Kevin regarding the complexity of trying to track down
and fix things involving event
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Kevin Walzer added the comment:
editFont.config is causing the crash.
The revised patch you suggest configures both the display font example and the
highlight-text example. We can certainly amend my patch along those lines.
I cannot reproduce the issue in simple Tcl/Tk using the equivalent
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Ned Deily added the comment:
Thanks for the patch, Kevin. It does need to be updated a bit for the current
2.7 branch as there have been changes since 2.7.3. Can you outline what you
believe the problem is that your patch is trying to workaround? Certainly,
nothing that IDLE or any other
Kevin Walzer added the comment:
The crash occurs during a self.editFont.config call, when the sample text in
the font dialog is updated with new font properties. My changes re-structures
the configure event to first create a tuple with new font properties, then
apply that to the parent label
Roger Serwy added the comment:
It appears that Kevin's patch is working around a bug in Tkinter's tkFont
object configuration. I would suggest removing the editFont object entirely
from configDialog if it is truly the root cause of Tk crashing.
Kevin, is the .textHighlightSample causing the
Kevin Walzer added the comment:
The attached patch works around the crash for me on Python 2.7.3, Tk-Cocoa
8.5.12 (tip), on Lion.
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Ned Deily added the comment:
I've been able to build Cocoa Tk and isolate the crash regression to a
particular Tk checkin. This Tk issue contains the details:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=112997aid=3575664group_id=12997
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David Pietz added the comment:
It wasn't right on that page anymore but I poked around and fount the 8.5.11.1
and IDLE is no longer crashing when I go to preferences or when I cut and paste
in the edit window (I didn't tell you about that did I ?- well it fixed that,
too)!!
thanks solo much,
Christian Heimes added the comment:
Ned, do you have any new information on this crasher? More people are having
issues with TCL on Mac, e.g. #16156.
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Ned Deily added the comment:
While there isn't a fix available for Tk yet, there is now a viable workaround.
It turns out that ActiveState does make the last couple of their Community
Edition ActiveTcl releases available if you know where to look for them. So
I've updated the information on
Ned Deily added the comment:
The problem is a regression in the latest version of ActiveTcl 8.5 for OS X,
specifically 8.5.12.1 (and I believe the previous version 8.5.12.0). It has
nothing directly to do with Python or how you might build Python other than
whether _tkinter.so dynamically
Raymond Hettinger added the comment:
I'm observed this happening on a number of machines at my client's site. It
started about three weeks ago and has not stopped (even with fresh installs of
Py2.7.3 and ActiveTCL).
I've not been able to figure-out why it affects some machines and not
Ned Deily added the comment:
Hmm, sorry, I don't know of an easy fool-proof way to automatically log
everything you type in IDLE. But it's pretty easy to manually save the
contents of the IDLE shell window at the end: with the keyboard focus on the
Python Shell window, select the File - Save
Ned Deily added the comment:
The crash on opening Preferences is an unresolved regression with OS X
ActiveTcl 8.5.12.1, the current ActiveTcl Community Edition, that causes Tk to
crash when selecting the IDLE Preferences.. command. The regression was also
in ActiveState 8.5.12 but not in
David Pietz added the comment:
r.david.murray- Thank You for your inquiry.
My recipe for this crash is (1) simply to start IDLE 3.2.3 in either Snow
Leopard or Mountain Lion (2) click on the Bold IDLE menu in the menu bar and
(3) click on menu item preferences. At this point a dialog called
Ned Deily added the comment:
David, can you verify that you do have ActiveTcl 8.5.12 (.0 or .1) installed
and that the problem no longer occurs if you disable ActiveTk by moving it as
described above? When Preference is failing, the following Terminal shell
command:
grep TK_PATCH_LEVEL
David Pietz added the comment:
ned,
That is exactly the output I received when I reverted to the ActiveState
version, it failed and I ran your grep.
Thank You for your interest.
djp
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David Pietz added the comment:
I thank you, gentlemen, for your kind attention to my issue. I hope it helps
everyone in the long run.
I, myself, became underwhelmed with these results of successfully opening
preferences. I had been expecting to have a |Startup|-|Shells open with
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