Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Agreed. I believe Al's menu revision suggested moving Debugger to Run.
Debugger has to hook into Shell because it has to see packets moving between
Shell and the execution process. Opening the debugger window currently requires
that Shell already be open.
New submission from Mark Roseman:
If I have just an edit window open with my program, there's no way to run the
program with the debugger visible. Should be a way to do so without going
through the extra steps of opening up a shell window first
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