On 5/15/2021 1:01 PM, Paul Moore wrote:
Specifically, we tried Zulip and it failed, in the sense that
basically no-one uses it.
So let's start by working out *why* it failed.
I never tried it because it was introduced about the same time as
'discuss', and it was enough for me to learn
Le 15/05/2021 à 19:01, Paul Moore a écrit :
So let's start by working out *why* it failed. I don't see any point
in having a vote, which comes up with the conclusion that (say) people
like Discord, if we then set that up and there's no-one on there. If
we were to ask the question, why did
On Sat, 15 May 2021 at 16:58, Senthil Kumaran wrote:
> > I see lots of vague complaining and no concrete argument.
>
> Really? I don't see that way. So far, I see that few others find
> settling upon chat solution will be useful for core-dev too.
I see a general interest in *having* some sort
As a data point for where newer language communities have ended up, Rust is
on Discord and Zulip.
On Fri., May 14, 2021, 19:14 Dong-hee Na, wrote:
> Believe it or not, there are people who are not familiar with the IRC
> culture.
> And those people are who enter the opensource culture after the
On 5/15/2021 11:57 AM, Senthil Kumaran wrote:
On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 04:16:20PM +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
You still haven't explained why e.g. Zulip (which has a modern Web UI, a
very well-thought threading mechanism, several clients, many integrations,
is widely used, and is open source),
Le 15/05/2021 à 17:57, Senthil Kumaran a écrit :
On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 04:16:20PM +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
You still haven't explained why e.g. Zulip (which has a modern Web UI, a
very well-thought threading mechanism, several clients, many integrations,
is widely used, and is open
On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 05:17:03PM +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>
> Le 15/05/2021 à 17:11, Dong-hee Na a écrit :
> >
> > So I agree with you and my suggestion may not be an objective perspective.
> > But I think that if we decide to choose to adopt new communication
> > tools, I think that we
On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 04:16:20PM +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> You still haven't explained why e.g. Zulip (which has a modern Web UI, a
> very well-thought threading mechanism, several clients, many integrations,
> is widely used, and is open source), doesn't « address our evolving needs ».
-
Le 15/05/2021 à 17:11, Dong-hee Na a écrit :
So I agree with you and my suggestion may not be an objective perspective.
But I think that if we decide to choose to adopt new communication
tools, I think that we can remove the danger factor which makes people
not use after some period.
What
Paul Moore wrote:
> In case it's not clear, I'd *like* a chat-style community, but I'd prefer it
> to be a little more "social". We have plenty of "work-related" communication
> channels, but IMO we don't really have anywhere that's the online equivalent
> of the workplace "hanging out around
> If you're not familiar with
> Zulip, it will take little time before you can use it reasonably well.
> Same for Slack, Discord, Gitter... and also Discourse, by the way.
> Mostly because people go where their friends / colleagues /
> acquaintances are. In other words, those are network effects
Le 15/05/2021 à 16:37, Dong-hee Na a écrit :
> You still haven't explained why e.g. Zulip
I think that Zulip is a good service and AFAIK Zulip is the OSS project
based on Python.
But I think that such communication tools should be evaluated not only
technology side but also on how people
> You still haven't explained why e.g. Zulip
I think that Zulip is a good service and AFAIK Zulip is the OSS project
based on Python.
But I think that such communication tools should be evaluated not only
technology side but also on how people feel familiar with UI/UX.
I don't want to evaluate
Le 15/05/2021 à 13:23, Senthil Kumaran a écrit :
On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 11:13:48AM +0900, Dong-hee Na wrote:
So I'm also a supporter of new communication tools.
I agree with everything you've mentioned, Dong-hee. Need for good
tool/system that addressed our evolving needs was one of the
> * Does it have a good web-client experience
MS teams look like provide the web client.
> In case it's not clear, I'd *like* a chat-style community, but I'd
> prefer it to be a little more "social".
I agree that we need to be more social. I share my personal news with
Victor and it would be
On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 11:13:48AM +0900, Dong-hee Na wrote:
> So I'm also a supporter of new communication tools.
I agree with everything you've mentioned, Dong-hee. Need for good
tool/system that addressed our evolving needs was one of the driver of
this conversation.
Thanks!
On Sat, 15 May 2021 at 03:14, Dong-hee Na wrote:
>
> Believe it or not, there are people who are not familiar with the IRC culture.
> And those people are who enter the opensource culture after the 2010s.
> That period coincides with the growth of GitHub.
>
> So I'm also a supporter of new
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