Brett Cannon writes:
> One data point in all of this is Victor's PEP 8015. Here on the mailing
> list I seem to be the first and only person to reply since the PEP was
> posted on Monday. But over on Discourse there have been 3 people who have
> replied and there's already been some back-and-fort
> On Oct 1, 2018, at 8:18 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
>
> Signed PGP part
>
>
>> On Sep 28, 2018, at 5:45 PM, Łukasz Langa > <mailto:luk...@langa.pl>> wrote:
>>
>> Signed PGP part
>> Hello committers,
>> since this got pretty long, here&
> On Sep 28, 2018, at 5:45 PM, Łukasz Langa wrote:
>
> Signed PGP part
> Hello committers,
> since this got pretty long, here's the tl;dr:
>
> - we're at the point where it is hard to make mailing lists work for us;
> - we're switching to Discourse; it's better in many ways;
> - go to https://
Excerpts from Steven D'Aprano's message of 2018-07-21 02:32:02 +1000:
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:37:03AM -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote:
> > Excerpts from Paul Moore's message of 2018-07-20 13:14:49 +0100:
>
> [...]
> > > In contrast, I would imagine that peop
Excerpts from Paul Moore's message of 2018-07-20 13:14:49 +0100:
> On 20 July 2018 at 12:57, Victor Stinner wrote:
> > Hum. Let me try to explain my point differently. Currently, some
> > people don't read PEPs just because at the end, only the single BDFL
> > vote counts. What's the point of spen
Excerpts from Antoine Pitrou's message of 2018-07-20 09:49:01 +0200:
>
> Le 20/07/2018 à 02:51, Ethan Furman a écrit :
> > My first issue with this model is, as discussed above, a lack of a
> > consistent vision. A BDFL is not just there to say,
> > "this PEP is accepted," but also to say, "cha
Excerpts from Brett Cannon's message of 2018-07-19 12:44:23 -0700:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 at 11:52 Doug Hellmann wrote:
>
> > Excerpts from Antoine Pitrou's message of 2018-07-19 20:07:41 +0200:
> > >
> > > Le 19/07/2018 à 20:00, Carol Willing a écri
Excerpts from Antoine Pitrou's message of 2018-07-19 20:07:41 +0200:
>
> Le 19/07/2018 à 20:00, Carol Willing a écrit :
> > I appreciate and respect the importance of these decisions. The dates
> > that I suggested, and I am not anchored to any of them, were not
> > selected to rush or be hasty. I
Excerpts from Łukasz Langa's message of 2018-07-18 17:31:40 -0500:
> The PSF uses a good voting system where votes are secret. I see no reason not
> to reuse this infra.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Łukasz Langa
This feels like a case where a consensus-based voting system may
be better than one tha
Excerpts from Jack Jansen's message of 2018-07-17 11:33:22 +0200:
>
> > On 17 Jul 2018, at 02:02, Tim Peters wrote:
> >
> > [Tim]
> >> Guido's most visible (well, to us committers) BDFL role has been in
> >> "yes/no", "go/nogo" language/library design questions, which don't even
> >> overlap w
Excerpts from Nathaniel Smith's message of 2018-07-13 04:31:00 -0700:
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Łukasz Langa wrote:
> > I'm +1 to an Informational PEP around the state of the art in project
> > governance.
>
> I think this is a great idea. There's a lot of experience out there on
> diff
ple up for fixes.
>
> I'm not sure what the proper governance structures should be, but they
> absolutely shouldn't be dumping extra load onto the release manager.
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 3:49 AM Doug Hellmann <mailto:d...@doughellmann.com>> wrote:
> Excerpts fro
Excerpts from Christian Heimes's message of 2018-07-12 20:54:05 +0200:
> On 2018-07-12 20:50, Brett Cannon wrote:
> > IMHO the N-virate should primarily be responsible for delegation.
> >
> > Side note: I think we'll be talking less and less about language design,
> > and instead about
Excerpts from Brett Cannon's message of 2018-07-12 11:11:49 -0700:
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 at 11:02 Yury Selivanov wrote:
>
> >
> > IOW I don't see anyone (or some group of 3) who is as well-versed in
> > everything on Guido's level. That can be solved if Guido agrees to
> > join the permanent N-v
Excerpts from Yury Selivanov's message of 2018-07-12 13:29:21 -0400:
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:58 PM Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'd like to point out that the N-virate idea doesn't handle a key issue:
> > once you have a N-virate, how do you evolve its composition according to
> > the im
Excerpts from Brett Cannon's message of 2017-01-21 19:51:48 +:
> What I'm picking up from this is (as a gross oversimplification):
>
> * Victor _wants_ code reviews
> * Raymond thinks we _need_ code reviews
>
> So the common theme here regardless of whether you agree with Raymond or
> Victor'
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